"Labour leadership: Andy Burnham raises Tory infiltration fears"

[HeighHoghItsBacktoWorkIGo]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34013497

Are there really enough bored Tories to do this? Is there are single confirmed instance yet? Bound to be some, never say never and all that. But surely, the Corbyn surge is driven by the far left returning to Labour because Corbyn has fired their passions.

Claig ... you are sooooooooo close, make the jump, you have a new hero, a new cult to follow, like Beetlejuice SAY it three times Corbyn, Corbyn ...

And never mention that Farage charlatan, again.

Sorry if this has already been posted, but here's one Tory bored enough to join Labour and vote for Corbyn:

"A Conservative Party member revealed he has been "very mischievous" by joining Labour to vote in its leadership election."

"Alan Pearmain, deputy chairman of the South Ribble Conservative Association, has voted for Jeremy Corbyn, the person he said is 'more than likely to ensure a Conservative government in the future'."

If Corbyn says he will bring in PR, then that is it, I will vote Labour for the longterm good of the country and the people, even though I disagree with some of his other stuff.

"I like both Farage and Corbyn. I will have to wait and see what they offer and which one has the best chance of implemnting it. Then I will decide."

The BEST chance to dictate policies, now let me think, if Corbyn doubles his party's Westminster seats and Farage trebles his.......it gonna be close.

Tories voting in this election should know better, adding insult to injury - but unlikely in numbers to influence anything based on Corbyns lead.

There is stilla perfectly good Pound shop out there to spend three far better than on Jezzer Corbyn. IMO.

If I were a conspiracy theorist (which I am not, I deal in fact, Farage quotes and Daily Mail articles alone) then I would think that some of the interns from Oxbridge (on less than minimum wage) were possibly deliberately making a farce of the voting system in order to allow the Labour Establishment candidates and Labour Establishment hierarchy to cry foul over the election when Corbyn wins.

"Ned the cat votes Corbyn for Labour leader – but llama family misses out

Buzzfeed journalist’s pet tabby has been a Labour supporter since early this month and was sent ballot paper in leadership contest"
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“Ned does not appear on the electoral roll because Ned is a cat,” Buzzfeed confirmed.
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All that was required was his home address, date of birth and contact details. A Hotmail address [email protected] was set up and soon inundated with a torrent of emails from Labour grandees, addressed with “Dear Ned”.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/21/ned-the-cat-votes-corbyn-labour-leader-llamas

Tory infiltration if it is happening at all could only count for less than 5%. Barely a surface scratch. I read it in the Guardian.
They are purging all sorts from all backgrounds including Luz fans in a blind panic.

They needn't bother.
C?RBYN TO WIN.

I am concerned about someone messing with the votes too. I can see home voting by post and electronically could both be problematic.

I read something somewhere along the lines, those in charge of counting the votes not the electorate, decides who wins.

'I can see home voting by post and electronically could both be problematic.'

Absolutely, it is the same for the general election. No one will talk about it apart from Farage who has said he will slash the use of postal voting in order to make the system more robust.

personally i joined to vote BUT im reading all the information before i actually vote i want a person not a "statement" vote i want real policies not a fractured party i want someone to believe in again

Blair was the one who relaxed our postal voting system, and I am not sure the Conservatives said much about it.

"In 2001 Tony Blair’s government introduced postal voting on demand without any restrictions.

The ostensible purpose was to combat apathy and boost turnout but the real reason was cynical partisan advantage since Labour knew that a postal voting system could easily be manipulated by apparatchiks and so-called “community leaders”.

That is exactly what has happened."

www.express.co.uk/comment/columnists/leo-mckinstry/475329/Postal-voting-is-making-political-debate-worthless

Even voting in a polling station needs looking at. You don't need any id. You could be one of those Tory blokes who know someone won't vote and send someone to use their vote.

Electronically, you just need a Jeremy and I am talking the hacking clown, not Corbyn.

Yes, that is why I am against evoting and e-democracy, too much chance for the elite to fiddle the votes. But you are right that polling station voting needs to be looked at to make sure nothing is going wrong.

Ed Miiband has goen to Australia and I don't blame him for getting away from all the whingeing Labour MPs who are blaming him for everything.

"Furious Labour MPs turn on Ed Miliband for 'skulking off' to Australia after leaving the party in a 'mess'

MP says 'the least' Miliband can do is tell party not to elect Jeremy Corbyn

Labour MPs have turned on former leader Ed Miliband after it emerged he had jetted off to Australia during one of the worst crises in the party's history.

Mr Miliband has refused to intervene in the increasingly chaotic leadership contest despite growing warnings from former leaders including Tony Blair and Gordon Brown that the party could be heading into the political wilderness."

It is has now emerged that Mr Miliband has left the country for a family holiday – his third since standing down in the aftermath of May's disastrous election defeat.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3202362/Furious-Labour-MPs-turn-Ed-Miliband-skulking-Australia-leaving-party-mess.html

Everyones entitled to a holiday, surely?

"It came after a leading party figure claimed that Mr Miliband had dumped the fallout 'in our front room' and then 'buggered off to Australia'.
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Despite the growing calls for Mr Miliband to speak out about Mr Corbyn's rise, a source close to the former leaders said he would keep quiet.

He said: 'He believes the debate must play out between the candidates.'

Well done, Ed. I suspect he's turned his mobile phone off to avoid panic calls from the Establishment saying "when are you going to weigh in against Corbyn like the rest of the bigwigs have done, its absolutely desperate over here, Corbyn is single-handedly driving a coach and horses through our best team?

Baroness Boothroyd has joined in the Establishment's condemnation of Corbyn

"My old party is galloping towards the precipice. I urge it to heed the jagged rocks before it is too late."

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11818961/Jeremy-Corbyn-will-leave-Labour-on-scrapheap-of-history-Baroness-Boothroyd-warns.html

This straight out of Blair's "walking off the cliff" stuff.

Does the same Oxford PPE Labour Party intern (on less than minimum wage) write all of the Establishment's hit pieces?

I guess they were all taught by the same guy at Oxford.

Good article by Penny Laurie in the New Statesman.

She ends by saying

"We want someone to remember that democracy does not begin and end at the ballot box. We want someone to represent the interests of the young, the poor and the marginalised in parliament. These are simple, modest demands. And the most damning indictment on the British political machine is the way in which these simple, modest demands look like a revolution."

www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/08/what-corbyn-moment-means-left

What lots of people have still failed to fully understand is that these Establishment politicians don't care about voters, they don't care what the people want, all they care about is keeping their Establishment masters sweet. They are not there to enable the people, they are there to stop the people and stop Corbyn because that is what the Establishment wants.

Penny makes some very good points about the shower that is working overtime to stop Corbyn.

"What the party has done so far is panic in a manner so incoherent and undignified that the Tories have marvelled, finishing the popcorn and starting on the dodgy dips as they watch the chaos unfold. We are told that a “Free French” resistance is being plotted within the Labour Party. The image of Blairites and vacillating former Miliblands as a “resistance movement” is worth sav­ouring. What on earth would their slogans be? “What do we want? Strategic capitulation to the centre right with a view to contesting an election in five years!” “When do we want it? Subject to legal review!”

The big problem with Corbyn is that he throws the collapsed vacuum of mainstream Labour rhetoric into sharp relief. None of the other three leadership candidates has a single memorable political idea beyond the idea of themselves as leader. The anointed heirs of New Labour appear to believe in nothing apart from their right to rule – and they seem agnostic about even that, given the invertebrates they have put up against the Corbyn threat.

The “electability” conversation is where it all becomes clear. The argument that Jeremy Corbyn is unelectable is being made by three candidates who can’t even win an election against Jeremy Corbyn."

Sorry, it is Laurie Penny not Penny Laurie. Shows how often I read her articles. I should read more of them because they are perceptive and funny.

I love Corbyn. Breath of fresh air in modern politics. Ive paid my £3 and intend to vote for him.

'I've paid my £3 and intend to vote for him.'

Careful what you say online, Viva. It seems they have teams of interns scouring social media to try and purge people who don't share Labour "aims and values" which seems to be anyone who doesn't think that Blair is God's Gift.

Yes, I may be rejected yet! But these reports about people being rejected makes me detest the likes of Harman and Burnham even more.

The Establishment are fuming once again. Every single day, Corbyn sends their blood pressure through the roof and they don't like it. Corbyn has only gone and done it again. They opened their newspapers today and this is what they saw:

"Jeremy Corbyn plans grants for aspiring Labour MPs from less wealthy backgrounds

Labour leadership frontrunner Jeremy Corbyn has unveiled plans to give grants to working-class party members to help them become MPs to stop it being dominated by people from affluent backgrounds.

Data from his campaign team claims Labour now has more MPs who went to private school – around 12% – than those from manual working backgrounds.
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“Because if at the next election we as a party have hardly any candidates from the frontline of Tory cuts then it will be very hard to be heard by voters we need to win back.

“It is therefore only right that the party helps collectively to shoulder some of the financial burden of members on more modest incomes during the candidate selection process so that we remain the people’s party.”

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/23/jeremy-corbyn-plans-grants-aspiring-labour-mps-less-wealthy-backgrounds

They don't like the sound of this one little bit. How on earth are they now going to be able to promote their Oxbridge teams to top positions in order to do as they are told? What on earth are their PPEs going to do now? Will they have to brush up their CVs for a senior high-paying role in a charidee, funded by the taxpayer? Are there enough charidees to employ them all?

Corbyn is like the Duracell bunny, he just doesn't stop. He does more speeches to audiences of thousands in every town than a professional after dinner speaker and he keeps coming out with policies that wind the Establishment up more than even Farage does. He has even stolen UKIP's name

"so that we remain the people’s party"

Everyone knows there is only one people's party and Farage is its leader. But Corbyn does come close.

'Are there enough charidees to employ them all?'

That was a rhetorical question. We all know that there are more than enough and many are partially funded by the taxpayer and many are staffed by the great and the good from public schools like Eton and they often draw a large salary too. They "mesmerise" each other and the taxpayer often pays.

No one from Eaton got us into our mess, and this apparently is the alternative, a cluster-feck of economic ignorance and gung ho over governance mentality of a South American dictatorship - that never end well for the plebs.

Arguably Labour brought in 3 decent policies in 13-years; the MWage, non smoking and an Independent Bank of England not setting interest rates to electoral cycles.

Yet this fuckwit in Corbyn's name, wants to take control back of UK interest rates setting, print free money, get rid of the independent OBR brought in by Osborne as the UK Treasury under Labour were instructed to keep shtoom over our pre 2010 problems - that so far, keeping the chancellor 'onest, have only embarrass Osborne with his medium budget projections/cuts.

”Jeremy Corbyn will 'sack' Bank of England governor if they refuse to print free money”

”Richard Murphy, architect of so-called 'Corbynomics', issues warning to Bank of England over Jeremy Corbyn's quantitative easing plans”

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11820156/Jeremy-Corbyn-will-sack-Bank-of-England-governor-if-they-refuse-to-print-free-money.html

State controls on everything folks, if the power companies are still working by then, last one out of the UK, turn out the light.

BTW "free money" does not exist, even now via QE.