Good luck to SNP MP Mhairi Black

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She is phenomenal - just 20 years old, SNP MP.

"I'm not the one who should be nervous, the people who are responsible for so much poverty and so much struggle in people's lives, they're the ones who should be nervous becase they're the ones who are going to held accountable for all the damage that they do to people"

Thet are going to shake our usual spinners up. They won't know what hit them. The SNP have some great women MPs - saw some of them on TV over the weekendm a real breath of fresh air - they are going to shake things up and not put up with the bowing and doffing of caps crap.

They don't conform to the traditional profile of our useless lot. This is a bit like the movie "Mr Smith Goes to Washington". I can't remember what happens in that movie though.

Do they have standards for appearance? Are they applying them equally? Are you?

Of course people have standards for appearance. You expect your child's teacher to be sensibly and well dressed. You expect the worker in a bank to look respectable.

Her suits are cheap and don't fit her well. The ponytail and the fringe plapped down don't look professional at all, it is far too severe and not modern looking at all. Her posture is dreadful, she slouches her shoulders.

It is very naive to blame others for judging. When you are doing something extraordinary you have to go that bit further to prove yourself.

Because she is being criticised for not 'knowing her place' and staying a good quiet pleb who leaves the 'proper' work to the big boys old grey men.

Er, no she hasn't. Many people, including me, welcome and actively push for more women in parliament. Just not 20-year-old ones, of any stripe.

My pleb-related criticism is that she isn't plebbish enough - she's being touted as a working-class hero when that's not what I see at all, based on her background.

She's an elected parliamentarian on £67k a year. If she stands for parliament like any other adult, she has to expect to be scrutinised like any other adult.

If we had a few like her in UKIP to back Farage up, we would scare the entire shower that is the esablished parties up.

I hope the best of labour are wearing their hard hats in case she puts the nut on them.

I don't think she is a natural or clear speaker. I think the accent is very forced to be as Scottish and as Paisley as possible.

A student who wears cheap clothes! Oh the shame!

Nicola Sturgeon is very good and so is Alex Salmond. But she is even better. She has the qualities of passion, anger and conviction combined. Everything else fades into insignificance. Appearance is irrelevant, it is what she says and how she says it that counts.

She has a forcefulness and conviction that earns respect and that is why Sadiq Khan, one of Labour's biggest hitters, whose appearance may be immaculate, looked like a minnow compated to the 20 year old politics student from Glasgow.

On May 2nd she tweeted
Another busy day for myself and of course #teammhairi everyday counts now let's get rid of career politician Douglas Alexander #VoteSNP

..... nothing spells out career politician more than MP before you graduate.

It just shows a breathtaking lack of awareness IMO.

And yes, her appearance isn't great. In my pre SAHM days I'd have been sent home from work for looking like that.

It just shows a breathtaking lack of awareness IMO.

And experience.

She's an idiot.

I hope she doesn't change her appearance, because what counts is being genuine and comfortable and confident with how one is. I don't want her to become like a Gordon Brown who needs teams of spin doctors and consultants to tell him which tie goes with his shoes.

She sounds dreadful and Im saying that as someone who grew up in a council house on the East Coast of Scotland.

She needs to go to elocution lessons.

This thread is a perfect example of what gives women a bad name. It's absolutely rammed with bitchiness, most of which is absolutely irrelevant to her role. Her hair isn't 'modern', God give me strength.

One things for sure, I'd feel more comfortable approaching Mhairi Black with an issue, than half the folk on this thread.

As is your right Weeborrower.

She's a racist thug and if that floats your boat then all well and good.

He's racist now is she? Are we adding that the list of absolute untruths about her on this thread, along with being sectarian?

Thank you, sectarian is how I should have described her instead of racist.

Of course she's sectarian. Fucking hates the Celtic, scum, disgraceful comments about nuns.

I wouldn't feel confident going to her with an issue and I am as working class and common as you like.

Except she's not sectarian either.

Some of you on this thread are being utterly utterly vile and should be ashamed of yourselves. You sound like a bunch of bullies in the playground, laughing and pointing at the new girl who doesnt fit in.

You don't come across as sophisticated, with experience of the world, and an insightful knowledge of
politics. You come across as ignorant and unpleasant. What on earth are you trying to achieve?

Hang on, she called Celtic fans - of which I am the game attending variety - scum at the time of a game where Celtic fans were reported to be ripping up seats at Firhill.

Unless they've changed the definition of sectarian?

For someone who is twenty she is a very confident speaker and has done amazingly well to win her seat.

However, as Obama found, coming in on a big wave of optimism and "this time it is going to be different" soon comes up against many political obstacles - this will apply to the SNP as whole in Westiminster especially as the conservatives have a (slim) majority.

Interesting to see how it plays out.

I don't care about her appearance, her hair is brushed and clean, she wore suits even though from the sounds of what she's said in the press that's not how she dresses, she doesn't need to look a certain way...

Basically my issue is that....

"I wish Mhairi well, I truly do. But I suspect she'd have been a much better MP in 8-10 years."

ItsAllGoingToBeFine - well said.

Who cares about the suits, she can buy a new one now if she really wants to! I don't want to recall what I was wearing when I was 20...

How is it bitchy to say that I don't find her professional in any sense?

If you want to be an MP you should live up to it. I don't think she does.

She's only been an MP for five minutes, hardly long enough to judge her professionalism.

Well apparently she's actually known in the constituency and throughout the central belt politically. She's not just a wee random who popped up out of nowhere.

So there is plenty to judge her on.

That tweet about career politicians really just sums it up.