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The Cult Of Farage - Hero's Welcome In the US

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claig · 27/02/2015 13:26

They love him in the States just like we do here!

"Nigel Farage was among his fans in the US.

"He's awesome and cool," 20-year-old Alain Robert told Sky News.

Political writer Randy Foreman was even more gushing saying the UKIP leader had all the appeal of James Bond.

"He's absolutely a fantastic politician. We just don't have them here like that in the United States."

news.sky.com/story/1435132/the-cult-of-farage-heros-welcome-in-us

We don't have 'em like that here, apart from the legend that is Farage

"Mr Farage's YouTube videos berating European bureaucrats and taking on the might of Westminster have made him something of a cult figure on the right of American politics.

So organisers of the biggest political event of the year for US conservatives, the Conservative Political Action Conference just outside Washington DC, invited him this year instead of a British conservative politician - a break with tradition."

There are no British Conservative politicians left. They are all a progressive Oxbridge joke, the People's Army will free us from their PPE yoke.

It is a shame Farage wasn't born in the States because they'd make him President without a doubt. I guess we're lucky that he is UK only, so that he will be PM here one day.

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claig · 28/02/2015 19:37

But Fox is the station for the right, Sarah Palin and the Tea Party types. It is not for progressives. They have CNN and the BBC.

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claig · 28/02/2015 19:48

Here is the left wing Establishment Daily Mirror runnin a Britain First story

"Britain First have told Buzzfeed that their policies chime with Ukip's, and have confirmed this in their Facebook page. They repeatedly congratulate Ukip on their victories. And they're telling their supporters to vote for Ukip.

But Ukip say it's a TORY plot

When we asked him about the group, Ukip's Head of Press Gawain Towler told us: "For all I know they could be a set up by the Tory party to smear us."

www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/surprise-you-how-similar-britain-4530710

It's not a Tory plot because the Tories aren't important enough. They aren't the elite.

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claig · 28/02/2015 19:50

PEGIDA are against TTIP. That will be used to smear any political opponents of the elite's TTIP plans.

I wouldn't be surprised if PEGIDA are also against fracking (haven't checked) because the elite need to smear opponents of fracking too.

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claig · 28/02/2015 19:55

And the reason PEGIDA are being publicised and why it is spreading across Europe in countries where populist parties are likely to challenge the elite's parties in upcoming elections is because the elite need a European wide political movement in order to smear the European wide people's revolt of populist parties against their banking, taxation, backhander, lobbying and climate change scams.

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RhoticSpeaker · 28/02/2015 20:02

Jeb Bush is a progressive? Hmm

claig · 28/02/2015 20:08

'Jeb Bush is a progressive?'

Of course he is. That is why he is the Establishment's hope for the Republican candidate, but he doesn't go down well with ordinary Republican activists who don't like progressives. But the Establishment will probably get their way as they always do.

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claig · 28/02/2015 20:15

'Is Jeb Bush just another ‘big government’ liberal?'

blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/06/a-president-jeb-bush-would-trample-on-reagans-legacy/

Of course he is . And Farage told them in Washington that the Republicans will lose because they are progressives. He told them that they have to follow the success of UKIP and break away from the progressives in the Republican Party, stop working as the Tea Party within trying to change the Republican Party and form their own truly conservative non-progressive party if they want to stand a chance of winning.

That is what has happened to the progressive Tory Party under the metropolitan moderniser, Cameron. They have lost 20% of their Tory voters because they have had enough of "just another big government liberal", moderniser and progressive.

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RhoticSpeaker · 28/02/2015 20:18

Jeb Bush is not a progressive. He is a Republican. Those two categories are mutually exclusive in US politics in the present climate. Jeb Bush is not a right-wing ideologue, true, but he is most definitely a conservative.

claig · 28/02/2015 20:19

That is why a US attendee at the Washington Conservative COnference so rightly said about the phenomenon that is Farage

"He's absolutely a fantastic politician. We just don't have them here like that in the United States."

It's because he is not "just another big government liberal". He is with thepeople, of the people and that is why he will be elected by the people. Conservatives have been tricked and cheated by the elite for too long, but now the people's time has come and all their tricks like PEGIDA can't stop the people.

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LumpySpacedPrincess · 28/02/2015 20:23

What about the homophobic leaflets they were giving away inside the conference? What about all the deeply racist, sexist and homophobic views UKIP spout that are tolerated by the party? What about the far right groups that Farage sits with in Europe? What about the 2010 manifesto which was deeply racist, sexist, homophobic and disabilist? And before you say it Farage attended the launch party for that manifesto so was obviously happy with it at the time.

What's the point Claig, you don't even think climate change is real.

claig · 28/02/2015 20:25

"Rowdy Jeb Bush walkout at CPAC

February 27, 2015 by Michele Kirk 72 Comments

Chanting “USA, USA,” a crowd of tea partyn supporters walked out on former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush Friday before Bush’s speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference.

Bush might be the perceived frontrunner for the 2016 Republican nomination in the mainstream media, but he’s a long way from the favorite of the party’s conservative base

www.bizpacreview.com/2015/02/27/rowdy-jeb-bush-walkout-at-cpac-183038

Those poor good people - activists who care and believe and campaign to make things better will be tricked and fooled again by the Establishment and the elites who laugh at them and impose their banker friendly candidates on the conservative base. The good people won't win, the elites will, but at least they have their eyes open while being fooled.

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claig · 28/02/2015 20:30

'What about the homophobic leaflets they were giving away inside the conference?'

Was farage handing them out. It is a free country (at least for now) and some Christian groups handed out leaflets against sex education in schools. They are entitled to their views and their are LGBT groups within UKIP and some of their candidates are gay. There are different views and UKIP allows freedom and free expression and diversity of opinion.

'What about the 2010 manifesto which was deeply racist, sexist, homophobic and disabilist? And before you say it Farage attended the launch party for that manifesto so was obviously happy with it at the time. '

It was written by someone who was a Conservative, then joined UKIP and is now a Conservative MEP again. Farage didn't even read it all. He said it was "drivel".

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LumpySpacedPrincess · 28/02/2015 20:40

He signed the front of the 2010 manifesto as the chief party spokesman and he launched it at Westminster saying it was time for straight talking in British politics yet he hadn't even read it?

So he is either a liar or an idiot that doesn't read the material he signs. Both bloody dangerous qualities wouldn't you say.

claig · 28/02/2015 20:43

At the time that "drivel" manifesto was written, my guess is that UKIP weren't a serious party because they though they had no chance of really winning and therefore didn't take the manifesto seriously as they were mainly focssed on leaving the EU and stoppig the climate change scam at the time.

But what happened in 2013, I think it was, was nothing short of a political revolution when Tory voters unexpectedly defected in their tens of thousands and voted UKIP in local council elections. That changed everything and UKIP started to get serious because they had a duty to represent the good people who voted for them an who had had enough of being taken for chumps by the Conservative Party.

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Hedgehoghunny · 03/03/2015 17:07

Nigel was clearly showing his true colours, alongside the crackpot right wing fringe of American politics, anti establishment, man of the people.

This will put off a lot of his potential supporters.

blacksunday · 04/03/2015 19:27

The resistible rise of Nigel Farage

Ukip’s leader is revealed as a true Machiavellian in this US publicity shot. It shows a dangerous man: anyone who underestimates his threat to British decency is a fool

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/27/resistible-rise-of-nigel-farage-ukip

claig · 04/03/2015 20:14

Read the article above to see how frightened he luvvies are of Farage, representative of the people.

It is written by a Guardian journalist who went to Cambridge. It is so over the top, it is laughable. A picture of Farage smoking a cigar is used to depict Farage as almost a threat to British values. What it shows is that Farage is a threat to British luvvies.

I knew the Guardian was a luvvie paper and not a paper of the people like the Daily Mail, but this is so over the top that the luvvies have lost it.

"American republicans apparently believe he may “run Britain”. It is easy to laugh at that idea from this side of the Atlantic. Here in the UK the liberal consensus appears still to be that, despite a poll predicting that Farage will win a seat in the general election, he and Ukip are marginal, even declining forces on the national stage – and perhaps even a Good Thing if they undermine Cameron and let Labour form a government.

But we should pay heed to the American view of Farage. And we should be scared by this photograph. This is a picture of a dangerous man.

It is as if, to impress the Yanks, Farage has unveiled his inner gangster: the street fighter, the Machiavellian bastard, showing his arrogance and thuggishness."

Farage is no Machiavelli, he is of the people and tells it straight which is why the people vote for him and UKIP.

It is the Oxbridge luvvies who are the spinners and students of Machiavelli. They have to be in order to fool the people, lord it over them and misrule them.

It was Oxford graduate and Blair's former chief of staff, jJonathan Powell, who wrote a book called "The New Machiavelli: How to Wield Power in the Modern World". It is Oxford PPE Tony Blair, who used the spin skills of the Prince of Darkness, Oxford PPE, Peter Mandelson.

Luvvies have to use spin to fool the people. Luvvies are desperate, they are losing, the people are rising, they have had enough.

Power is slipping from the Oxbridge luvvies' grasp and they are lashing out at Farage and the people as they see their plans and schemes begin to crumble as the people demand change.

The Guardian journalist writes

"The way to fight Farage is with street protests, demonstrations, cartoons, insults – and any political weapon that comes to hand."

That is the way the Oxbridge luvvies fight. They fight dirty when they are losing. They know it's over.

Why not fight just using truth as Farage does.

Long live the people. We will win.

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claig · 04/03/2015 20:25

'Meet Ukip, Britain's most working-class party'

blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukipwatch/100256765/meet-ukip-britains-most-working-class-party/

UKIP is the people's party. That is why the Oxbridge luvvies are frightened of UKIP. They are frightened of the people waking up and kicking them out, ending their perks and privileges, ending their plans and schemes and their gravy train salaries and lobbyist benefits, ending their entitlement, their pomposity and their mismanagement.

The more they hurl insults at Farage and the people, the more certain they are to lose. The luvvies' days are numbered. There are just over 60 days left to the election. Then the people will have their say.

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claig · 04/03/2015 21:01

"The way to fight Farage is with street protests, demonstrations, cartoons, insults – and any political weapon that comes to hand."

and here is what Farage, the people's advocate against the Oxbridge luvvies said

"However beastly the establishment is to me, or to any of our candidates in winnable seats, however personal and nasty this campaign becomes, Ukip will rise above it – we will turn the other cheek, we will ignore their insults and we will get on saying to the British people 'we believe in Britain and we want your vote because we want change'," he said.

www.ibtimes.co.uk/general-election-2015-nigel-farage-pitches-ukip-party-small-man-1487754

Farage, people's champion, said

"There's a country of real people out there and, in many ways, they are crying out for a different kind of politics.
...
"They are crying out for different kind of people in politics. They are crying out to be represented by people who look and sound like them."

The luvvies think they are better than the people. They think that their publicly-funded salaries aren't enough for teh great works that they do. They feel they are worth more and are doing us a favour. Well they are going to get a shock when they find out what the people think of them and say it at the ballot box. They thought their jobs and perks were safe they thought we would always put up with their ways. They thought the people were stupid. But their hubris will bring them low. They will be toppled by those they considered below.

"No-one is safe: Ukip's revolution takes Westminster"

www.politics.co.uk/news/2014/10/10/no-one-is-safe-ukip-s-revolution-takes-westminster

Don't believe their lies, don't succumb to their spin, stand firm, go and cast your vote and make sure the people win.

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LumpySpacedPrincess · 14/03/2015 11:52

How you can vote for a party that is getting rid of equality laws is beyond me. UKIP would create an atmosphere where racism and sexism would thrive. I can only assume that you are okay with that. Sad

blacksunday · 14/03/2015 19:34

Claig doesn't talk about UKIP policies.

It's all about the 'anti-establishment' qualities of the fascist party which she likes.

LumpySpacedPrincess · 14/03/2015 19:45

I know black, sometimes I play claig bingo and give myself double points for every time he/she/they mention the bbc.
Do you think it's a case of cognitive dissonance or not having a problem with UKIP's racist agenda?

claig · 14/03/2015 20:44

I don't think UKIP are racist. They have more ethnic minority candidates than the Greens.

have fewer ethnic minority candidates than any other party, including Ukip

I do talk about UKIP policies - direct democracy, local referenda, leaving the EU, scrapping the Climate Change Act, scrapping bedroom tax, scrapping university tuition fees for science and medical degrees, taking minimum wage earners out of taxation completely etc etc, but I also tink that UKIP's anti Establishment stance is of paramount importance because I think that so much of what is wrong with this country is due to the stitch up of the unrepresentative out of touch metropolitan elite and the disproportionate power of what I think is the Establishment's unrepresentative Oxbidge class in the higher echelons of power. I want a government that represents working people and puts their needs and wishes ahead of lobbyists and the Establishment. That will sort the country out and deliver prosperity and better living standards for ordinary people. That is why I support UKIP against the Establishment parties that didn't regulate the banks properly, knighted fat cats and imposed austerity on the people.

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claig · 14/03/2015 21:12

'It's all about the 'anti-establishment' qualities'

UKIP call themselves the People's Army and the People's Party. The Tories are know as the business party and Labour is often described as the welfare party by the Tories.

What parties call themselves and what they are referred to by others is highly significant because it is an indication of their unstated values.

The reason UKIP call themselves the People's Army is because they see themselves as representing the people in a battle with the ruling Establishment elite. They see this battle as important because they feel that the Establishment protects and looks after itself and does not represent the people.

Sadly over time, I have come to think that this is the case too, just like millions of other people. I think the Establishment ignored the people when they marched in their millions against war with Iraq. I think the Establishment protected the banks and bailed them out above the needs of the people. I think the metropolitan elite often feel that the people are "left behind" and "not part of the future" in the neoliberal globalised world view to which the elite subscribe.

I support UKIP because I want social mobility and an end to rule by an out of touch arrogant politically correct elite that thinks that ordinary people are "swivel-eyed" or "fruitcakes" if they disagree with their politically correct orthodoxy. Read the comments in the Daily Mail the world's largest online new ssite, and you will see how widely that view is shared. The Establishment's teenage whizz kids read the comments and it spoils their champagne, of that you can be sure.

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