Anyone voting UKIP?

[jharris20]

Reasons not to vote UKIP
-They believe disabled children should be aborted www.gravesendreporter.co.uk/news/exclusive_compulsory_abortion_for_down_s_syndrome_foetuses_says_ukip_kent_candidate_1_1745952

-They oppose gay rights

-They want the NHS cut blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/benedictbrogan/100257048/nigel-farage-the-tories-have-failed-only-ukip-dares-cut-spending-on-nhs-and-pensions

-They want pensions cut blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/benedictbrogan/100257048/nigel-farage-the-tories-have-failed-only-ukip-dares-cut-spending-on-nhs-and-pensions/

-They support the ivory trade www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ukip-criticised-after-its-meps-vote-no-on-a-resolution-to-tackle-world-ivory-trade-9278390.html

-They are deeply sexist, especially towards working mothers www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/polly-courtney/nigel-farage-sexism_b_4652855.html

Make sure you don't let them win by failing to turn out. Vote Labour.

Lol I can't be fucked to entertain you with anymore than this reply. Good luck with your plug. Desperate times and all that..

They have no policies as a party.

Nigel Farage is not able or willing to explain what their manifesto is or will be.

The individual opinions of their candidates (which may or may not end up as party policy) are barking. Standing for election on the belief that people shod dress formally to visit the theatre?

Also they are utterly undemocratic. They have drawn up a charter demanding that each MEP contribute £50k to the party.

How can anyone think of voting for such an outfit?

vote labour? hahahaha... erm... not a fucking hope in hell.

Labour are no good - they started the NHS cuts! Led by a wet lettuce, and no convincing policies atm.

The Tories are stealthy fuckers who are selling off the NHS.

UKIP - just No. For eleventy billion different reasons.

LibDems - I don't want to be clegged again, and Vince might retire soon.

So I think I'm voting Green or Independent not that it matters a jot, the Tory majority here is massive.

I will not be voting for UKIP. However I will also not be voting for Labour. They are both useless. And saying Ed Milliband gas only been an mp for 9 years doesn't increase my opinion of his credibility.

I will vote UKIP in the EU elections. They have a realistic chance of moving the Tories centre of gravity to the working-class right.

Labour deserve to be out of power for a generation for bringing Britain to the very edge of bankruptcy, allowing large scale unskilled immigration, and hampering the life chances of millions of children by pandering to teaching unions.

I'll vote for neither.

Bravo OP

How can you bring yourself to do it Lady? It's a party which seems (from the actions of its members) to be institutionally racist, sexist and homophobic... How can you align yourself with those values?

I'm not aligned with any party (see previous post) and I completely understand the dissatisfaction with mainstream political parties but I can't comprehend voting for someone you don't want.

Enough protest votes could add up and none of us want to hand a mandate to UKIP really, do we???

Be careful what you wish for lady. Without an active position in europe we are fucked. I will be voting conservative. Only because labour wont get in round here and I want to make sure ukip fucks off. I would lose redpect for anyo e that voted for that shower of shit.

UKIP all the way, the Tories are a shower of shite, there leader is not a Tory. The labour party betrayed the working classes on mass immigration, and the war-monger Blair would still would like us to go to war with Syria. The liberal party has a leader who is not strong enough, although he does purport to be a 'man'. Weak and liberal two unattractive traits I would say! All of the three main parties are elitists who love sneering at the working classes, whose views to them don't matter.

The only party that understands the majority of the people in this country is UKIP!

That's why they are doing so well.

How on earth can you say David Cameron isn't a Tory. He is dyed in the wool rural Tory to his fingertips.

LittleBearPad, Cameron is a progressive, he is not a real Tory in touch with the Tory voters in the Tory heartland. He is a "moderniser", a progressive. He even once joked that he was the "heir to Blair", but real Tories didn't see the funny side.

This is Simon Heffer in the real Tories' paper, the Daily Mail.

"But then I have long thought Mr Cameron was not really a Conservative. Many in his party, having made excuses for him during his eight years as leader, are increasingly coming to the same view — and realising how his lack of principle and Tory spirit is making it very hard for them to win the next election.

Yet the fact is that this is a broadly conservative country. Almost half the votes cast in the council elections were for the Tories or UKIP.

It should not be hard for a genuinely conservative party to win an overall majority."

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2322776/SIMON-HEFFER-Think-axe-David-Cameron-Dont-bet-it.html

Not voting UKip because I'm not stupid enough to believe the lies.

Will probably vote Green.

I don't really want to vote for anyone. Its best of a bad bunch and absolutely nothing will change.

Maybe UKIP just to see a bloody difference!

And I agree that green is a wasted vote...

Surely one of the biggest advantages with the PR system used in the European elections is that votes are not wasted in the same way that they are in FPTP?

The Greens -EFA have more MEPs than the EFD (UKIP's group). Even though the UK Greens have fewer seats than UKIP.

Especially as they use a quota system so the more seats a party has already won the harder it is to gain more seats. The electoral system is designed to ensure that no one party gets all the seats in a particular constituency.

Green is not a wasted vote in the Euro Election - single, transferable vote. More of a problem with our outdated and undemocratic first past post system. Where I live the Tory candidate would get in if it were a slab of Cotswold stone with a face drawn on with a Sharpie. Still voting Green, though.

I'm looking into the Green party, but I can't see how they are going to fund all of these changes (which do look fab). Any ideas?

If Simon Heffer and the Daily Fail are the voice of the majority of Britain we are in serious shit and looking back through rose tinted glasses to a past that never existed, and was pretty nasty to live in unless you were white middle/upper class man.

And if is the case that the conservatives typically do well in England but they have disastrous form in Wales and Scotland. They actually would have most to gain from Scottish independence.

" Almost half the votes cast in the council elections were for the Tories or UKIP. "

...so more than half were for Labour or the Lib Dems?

Making us a broadly left-wing country, then?