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Labour 1997 - 2010, was the worst government ever

101 replies

Wellwobbly · 10/10/2013 20:00

blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/seanthomas/100240679/exclusive-labour-1997-2010-was-the-worst-government-ever-and-this-is-why/

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caroldecker · 03/01/2014 12:16

But wallison all you are posting is unsupported abuse. You have not answered any of the questions and not come up with any useful input on how things should change.
It all very well being sat in your own negative pit of hate, but that will not change anything and only hurt yourself.
It would be nice to know what your solutions may be, and also an opinion on how Thatcher could have acted differently - however you don't have to play and can continue spitting from the sidelines if it makes you happy.

Wallison · 03/01/2014 12:28

I answered your semi-literate 'question' about Thatcher despite it being worded in such a way that I was unsure as to what you were asking. I have also addressed the rather personal attacks telling me to leave the country. Have there been other questions directed to me? Because if so, I haven't seen them.

handcream · 03/01/2014 13:49

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Wallison · 03/01/2014 13:55

I'm not the one making personal attacks and telling people to leave the country, handcream.

CustardoPaidforIDSsYFronts · 03/01/2014 13:57

is this still going? I forgot about this thread - be back in a bit, just m,arking my palce

handcream · 03/01/2014 14:02

Wallison - have you read some of your answers. If I really hated things as much as you seem to I would do something about it. Make real changes not just knock everyone in general who you think has brought on your woes.

Wallison · 03/01/2014 14:04

I have told you what I am doing about it. I don't see why I should, when you have told me to leave the country and called me 'deranged', but still I did. Maybe if you want a debate, you could leave the personal attacks out of it.

CustardoPaidforIDSsYFronts · 03/01/2014 14:06

I haven't been abusive, if I have report the post please

Wallison · 03/01/2014 14:09

I have been abusive, but to Thatcher and Reagan. I guess they could report me through the power of the afterlife - do you get mumsnet in Hades?

lottieandmia · 03/01/2014 14:12

Excellent posts from Custardo.

CustardoPaidforIDSsYFronts · 03/01/2014 14:13

I think it is poor form to tell someone with a different pov they have chips on their shoulders and sound deranged.

I also do not understand the comments 'do something about it'

Yes, whatever your personal circumstances, level of debt, children, relationship and wider family issues, personal health etc...just become an MP Hmm because we can all afford to do that can't we not very well thought through me thinks

caroldecker · 03/01/2014 15:45

I'm not suggesting become an MP, I am asking for potential solutions/changes. Custardo has mentioned the tax gap, although there is much debate about how much is is and very little appears to be big business - most appears to be VAT fraud and underpayment by SME's - so basically the self employed fiddling thier taxes.
There is also some ill-thought through discussion in international transer pricing and tax of international companies.
Again Wallison what would you do?

handcream · 03/01/2014 16:18

I was listening to someone on LBC this morning complaining from the medical profession (ambulance personnel I think) saying that although teachers do a great job really any pay rises should go to him and his colleagues.

Its funny, we are all living longer. I will get my pension at 68 - my DM got her's at 60 and we all agree that something has got to change especially around retirement ages but many many professions are claiming they shouldnt be targetted. They are different and should keep their old retirement ages which are often under 60!

So, I will be burnt out by 60 - can I retire then too....

NiceTabard · 03/01/2014 19:50

People who think thatcher was appalling hate the UK and should leave?

Crikey mikey.

Easy to see where the real hatred lies on this thread, TBH.

CustardoPaidforIDSsYFronts · 04/01/2014 00:42

went it gets to a point where we can't support old people, i too wonder what will be proposed euthenasia by lottery

caroldecker · 04/01/2014 02:33

Again come up with answers please not just complaints - maybe there is not enough money to do what you want

Wallison · 04/01/2014 10:18
CustardoPaidforIDSsYFronts · 04/01/2014 13:06

ive come up with the answer, collect the owed taxes, close tax loopholes

whats your answer carol?

CustardoPaidforIDSsYFronts · 04/01/2014 13:07

dont spend millions on expenses

dont let whitehall officials spend 17 m on bunny suits and hotels in Brazil

#votecustyforPM

Wallison · 04/01/2014 14:53

I'd vote for you, Custardo.

I do actually have a few ideas of my own as well - they involve investment aka 'spending money' but it's spending money in the right way - unlike this unelected shower who are spending more money than Blair ever did thanks to their own misguided policies - unemployment costs money, homelessness costs money, an inflated housing market costs money etc.

  • renationalise energy companies and rail companies. Profits to go back into the public coffers. Like I say, it's an investment. We're spending more public money on the railways than we ever did when they were nationalised. Privatisation hasn't worked - it's more expensive both for the country and for passengers. We've given it enough time, and it's proved unsuccessful so time for a change of tack.

  • embark on a real programme of house-building, especially publicly owned housing. Again, we've tried the free market, and it's been a disaster - more people homeless, more people in temporary accommodation, poor quality stock of private sector rentals due to lack of regulation, and £20billion a year on housing benefit due to unaffordability of housing. In a similar vein, bring back rent controls and restore security of tenure for all tenants. If that means fewer btl-ers, all to the good. The price of housing is one of the biggest reasons why there is such a gap between wages and living costs.

  • raise the minimum wage to a living wage. If a company cannot afford to pay a living wage to its employees, then it shouldn't be in business because it is clearly not viable. Tax credits are merely a subsidy for these unsuccessful employers - time they went to the wall.

There's more I'm sure but that would be enough to be getting on with.

CustardoPaidforIDSsYFronts · 04/01/2014 15:06

wallinson are you owen jones in disguise - because i just fell in love with you

Wallison · 04/01/2014 15:42

Haha cheers Custardo. Sorry to disappoint but I am not Owen Jones - I do think he is fab though.

ironman · 06/01/2014 10:06

Owen Jones is a fake, who does not understand the working classes, of whom he writes about. His book 'Chavs' was crap.

ironman · 06/01/2014 10:31

Owen Jones when interviewed by Andrew Neil did not know what was talking about! Jones was saying MP's earned over a million a year, he looked a right dick, that and his fake Lancashire accent. This man is a complete idiot, even worse he writes for the Guardian! Reads it as well, while he discusses with his other Guardian mates sorry friends from Primrose Hill, how awful are the Chavs who shop in Primark, now that Woolworth's is closed.
He's typical of the fascist liberal elite, who despise those they say they support.
Must have a Brew now I've castigated that wxxker!

nonmifairidere · 06/01/2014 11:19

OJ bingo, ironfilings? House!

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