I know I'm being unreasonable...

[thesnootyfox]

But I really find young people (under 25) who have Tory values very very annoying.

[claig]

'I am at medical school'

The majority of people are not at medical schools and are not the people that the media invite on - they are not the Oxbridge PPEs and student union leaders. The majority of young people read the Sun and agree with many Tory values.

[TinyDiamond]

what exactly are you basing it on?

[DSM]

OH DEAR GOD I hope you are joking. Where are you getting these 'facts'?

[TinyDiamond]

have you just been watching made in Chelsea?

[ravenAK]

Oh good grief, don't go expecting claig to substantiate her assertions.

[claig]

You don't need to watch 'Made in Chelsea', they are a tiny minority. You only need to watch 'The Only Way is Essex'. They are the majority, and Labour hold very few seats in Essex.

[DSM]

My favourite quote of the day:

'The majority of young people read the sun'

Brilliant.

Claig - maybe the majority of young people you know read the sun, but I don't really know anyone that reads the son, age irrelevant. Actually an engineer came to my work last week to fix a radiator, and he had a copy in his van. But he was most definitely over the age of 25. And he was from England.

[claig]

'Claig - maybe the majority of young people you know read the sun'

The majority of young people I know read the Spectator, but that is beside the point.

[TinyDiamond]

yes that's right the majority of under 25s are just like on TOWIE. this is of course very accurate because you said so.

I am tired and am going now but I will tell you this.1) you are wrong 2) I have just turned 25 and 3) I'm finding it really uncomfortable sleeping with these hair extensions and do you have any tips for getting fake tan off my sheets? TTFN BBZ

[DSM]

Ah, which will be why the majority of young peopleyou know are tories.

You do know that your social circle is not a microcosm of society, and is, in fact, just a bunch of folk you know. Some people are actually different to your friends.

[dickiedavisthunderthighs]

Ha. From someone who knows the readership figures of all national press and their associated websites inside out, I can tell you claig that the majority of under 25's read nothing.

[claig]

dickie, I think you are right. But do you have figures of what pecentage of people under 25 read the Sun and the Mail and how many read the Guardian, the Mirror and the Independent?

[claig]

' I'm finding it really uncomfortable sleeping with these hair extensions and do you have any tips for getting fake tan off my sheets? TTFN BBZ'

I think the Sun may have some tips for you.

[DrRanj]

Um, I would have thought that young Tories, if found anywhere, would be found at medical school?!

And anyway, you would be surprised. Medical students come from a variety of social backgrounds nowadays, so probably give a reasonably good cross section. I am a working class, 30 year old female mother of one for instance.
Well, saying that, med students have come from varying backgrounds for a few recent years, but the Tories have scuppered that by increasing tuition fees three fold in one foul swoop. So people like me will definitely be put off studying medicine in the future... But that's for another thread!

[DSM]

There is no way to get those kind of figures anymore, as so many people (particularly those of the younger variety) read online versions, and therefore there are no readership figures.

I would never in my life dream of buying a copy of the Fail. Never have, and absolutely never will. But I have been on their website. Clicking a link to some hot sleb gossip does not a DM reader make.

[dickiedavisthunderthighs]

Yes. Based on percentages high to low, based on all national press, it goes something like Metro, Guardian, Independent, Times, Sun, Mirror, Daily Mail, Express,Telegraph. Then similar for their Sunday counterparts except Sunday Times ranks slightly lower, between Mirror and Mail.

[DSM]

Metro readership surely counts for nothing, they are given free! Most people I know who have a copy of the Metro think it's crap, but 'gives you something to read on the bus'. Would they ever buy it through choice? Unlikely.

[TinyDiamond]

drranj you're not a surgeon by any chance are you? as I think claig could do with a sense of humor transplant. yawn

[dickiedavisthunderthighs]

They have a choice not to pick it up or read it. It's actually done a fantastic job of putting news on front of school children who would otherwise have not a clue what was going on in the world. That's by the by though, I listed all national press based on NRS figures to give a level comparison.

[claig]

'I would never in my life dream of buying a copy of the Fail. Never have, and absolutely never will.'

If you wish to deprive yourself, that is your choice.

'Based on percentages high to low, based on all national press, it goes something like Metro, Guardian, Independent, Times, Sun, Mirror, Daily Mail'

Hmm, I have worked in lots of different environments, both low-paid and high-paid, and in the low-paid environments, where people were younger, nobody read the Guardian, but there were copies of the Sun and the Mirror.

[DSM]

Oh, of course they do but would they choose that paper over another? Probably not, in most instances. But it's there, and it's free. A bit like when I was at the doctor and read a fishing magazine.

[DrRanj]

Sorry tiny, will probably go into GP. Too much of a lefty to be a surgeon!

[DSM]

claig you aren't even making a point anymore! So, low paid under 25's read the sun, is that your new stance? And they also vote tory? Really...

Someone who considers a reluctance to read the Fail as a deprivation is not someone whom I would consider to have valid, worthwhile or balanced views, so I don't know why your comments continue to bewilder me.

[TinyDiamond]

I'm not sure claig even knows what the point is meant to be tbh

[claig]

'So, low paid under 25's read the sun, is that your new stance? And they also vote tory?'

The Sun is the highest selling paper in the country. Do you think that only over 25s buy it? The majority of young people in the country are working class and are not highly paid. I believe that more young people read the Sun than read the Guardian.

Also, it is not just Kensington and Chelsea old people who vote Tory, since those people are a tiny minority of the country as a whole. Young people also vote Tory, but you won't see them represented in the media.