Gove: Does he make everyone want to vomit?

[orangeandlemons]

That man. Ugh! He makes me feel sick. The trout pout, the hair, the smarm, th fucking zealot madman policies.

Words cannot express

Raising the leaving age to 18 isn't a Gove policy. It was announced in 2007, to take effect in 2013.

Is it still going ahead?

Guardian 25.3.12:
A department for education spokesman last night said that the school leaving age in England is due to rise to 18. It is first due to rise to 17 in 2013 and then 18 in 2015.

Based on that idea, DS1, who has quite severe learning difficulties, would still be in Year 1!

At 22!

Flexybex and Gulwithfrothycurl I said progress not grades. A child can make excellent progress but may not achieve good grades. Focusing on progress would push the time wasters and general disrupters but not the less able. These two types of kids are the ones who make it hard for everyone else (teachers and students).
To focus on academic ability alone would discriminate against others and this would not be acceptable in anyway. Some students would never make it, but they can still show good progress

O&l - so you expect the less able to make 'good' progress?
Surely, progress is measured by movement through the grades?

Depends on what progress you are tracking. It can be tracked by grades. It can be tracked by targets. It can be tracked by teacher assessment or by exams

What I meant as all students should be able to move up a year according to the progress they have made which is achievable by their ability. So not just cleverest who would easily do it, but all students should be offered the opportunity to move up based on that they are capable of achieving.

This would meant that the one who time waste and generally cause disruption, would be the ones left behind, as they wouldn't make the progress required to move up. However, if this is countered with the fact that they would have to repeat a year with younger students it may just be the push they need to focus

I don't know enough of how it works in other countries. I guess they have some sort of exam which takes into account students of all abilities, or they will have teacher assessment I suppose. It would not be permissible to discriminate against the less able in any way. If a student has real learning difficulties I suppose they would be disapplied, but as I said I don't know eough about it. I just think the lazy ones need more of an incentive to do something.

And you'd be left with the disruptive pupils in a lower year group, even more pissed off than before!

Yeah, hadn't thought about that! But would they carry on doing nothing and risk being kept down another year. Not sure they would

Yeah..... it wud b bare cooooooooooool ....to do that!

Yeah, could be I suppose. But at some point all their cronies would leave(or perhaps the word is now possyor massiiiive)!

Then what would they do?

Gove is a fuckwit of the highest order...........that's all I have to say really!

I think they'd need a CRB check for a start! (Just in case.....)
Imagine a 25 year old doing gym with Y7!

Lol, or teaching sex education

I just heard Gove being interviewed on Radio Four, and he said that he had had "hundreds" of letters from headteachers thanking him for sending copies of the King James bible to their schools.
I don't believe him. I simply don't believe him. Do headteachers have time to write thankyou letters? Bollocks.
He also claimed that he did not know that the bibles were going to have "presented by the SoS for education" embossed on the spine.
I don't believe that either. Ministers keep very close to their vanity projects, it is inconceivable that this is just the enthusiasm of a civil servant.

Wonder how many cuts were made to pointlessly fund the King James fairy stories

I wasn't aware of any initiatives to supply any fairy tales to schools from a central budget.

If you mean the King James Bible project (supported inter alia by Dawkins), then the answer is zero. The Archbishop of Canterbury found philanthropists who are covering the entire cost.

'I wasn't aware of any initiatives to supply any fairy tales to schools from a central budget.'

There was that Al Gore global warming DVD, 'An Inconvenient Truth', but I don't think it was from a central budget.

@JosephineCD Sun 20-May-12 01:13:56

We desperately need grammar schools to come back.

Would you be saying that if your children fail the 11+?

What, express an interest in 75% of the population?!!!

Now they are considering wasting valuable teaching time delivering lessons on body ishoos. Apparently even very young children have issues with their appearance and their weight.

I wonder why? would that be because schools have been weighing children?

The plan is to use Cognitive dissonance as the basis of teaching children to be confident. Another loony idea.

The King James bible is a fantastic work of fiction and very well written but why not Chaucer, it is at least amusing.

Actually although I loathe Gove, I agree with body issue lessons. Not sure this has come from the government though, I think it is some think tank.

My dd age 5 was sad because she thinks she has a fat tummy I have never said anything to her about this, but she has picked it up from somewhere. I think the point of them is to mve children away from a soiety obsessed with physical appearance

I read yesterday (was it in the Daily Fail? ) that Boris and Gove were in contention for the leadership race...... I've started to pack my bags.

Could be worse - could be Hunt and Osborne.

"That man. Ugh! He makes me feel sick. The trout pout, the hair, the smarm, th fucking zealot madman policies.

Words cannot express "

This is ridiculous. Not liking a polition because the hair is like not liking a hairdresser because he/ she supports the wrong football team. It doesn't matter if he gets the job done. Substantiating that a politian is no good because of how they look ispathetic and makes you out to be ignorant and a little stupid.
He is not a madman, he's just got a job to do and he's getting stuck in. This country might have another golden age if education is sorted ot.