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WTF are Frothers? Have you seen them around and wondered? Not a quiche, but a protest group. Tory, Labour, Lib Dems - Common Goal - Protest Against the Cuts

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MmeLindor. · 26/12/2011 21:32

What are the Frothers?

The term "Frothers" came about one dank and dismal November day in 2011. A frustrated user of the parenting forum Mumsnet started a thread about her dismay at the cuts that the Conservative/Liberal Democrat government was inflicting on the British public.

She stated that she was not "quite a frothing berserker but I am getting rather cross with our government messing with the good stuff".

The good stuff - policies, benefits, institutions that had taken years to achieve were being cut for no good reason, often leaving gaping holes in the fabric of British society.

The NHS, with which we Brits have a love-hate relationship, but like a favourite sibling, we wish to protect from harm.

Sure Start, a successful scheme that supported parents who were struggling and offered children from deprived backgrounds a better start in life.

Universal Child Benefit was cut for those families who had one earner bringing in more than £44k a year. If both parents each earn less than £44k, they keep their UCB payments. This obviously hit single parents and families with a single earner hardest.

Disability Living Allowance and Employment and Support Allowance - which enabled those with disabilities to live a decent life, without feeling that they were begging for assistance or were a burden to the taxpayer.

Student Fees, the introduction of which, contrary to Lib Dem pre-election promises, means that a whole generation of young people will have to think carefully before applying to higher education.

These and many other cuts are being made in the name of austerity. We are "all in this together", but some of us are deeper in this than others.

We all understand that there are sacrifices to be made but why should these sacrifices be borne by those who already have so little?

The general public seems oblivious of the dangers being faced, they are unaware of the injustices being wrought on the already disadvantaged.

The government is winning the war of the headlines. They have blasted the recipients of DLA and ESA as scrounger and cheats so often that the general public believe it. They misinterpret data to "prove" their points. Teachers are painted as being irresponsible and greedy, while the bankers rake in the money.

The poster on Mumsnet was not alone for long. Within a few days, a group of over 30 posters had formed. They asked themselves, "What can we do?".

The idea of a blog was born. Three days later the blog had over thirty authors signed up, a Facebook page and a Twitter account.

The Aims:

  • to open the general publics' eyes to the injustices being created by the governement
  • to inform those who are facing cuts about their rights
  • to link with other activists and charities, in order to put pressure on the government

Are you a Frother?

Come and join us.

BLOG

FACEBOOK

TWITTER

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IslaDoit · 06/01/2012 16:40

I'm poking about in it now x

garlicfrother · 06/01/2012 16:46

Just done it very quickly. Is it OK?

garlicfrother · 06/01/2012 16:47

Oops, Isla Blush Grin

OpinionatedMum · 06/01/2012 16:47

@garlic frother just set up a new twitter account with a different email and slightly different name. Then continue the hypocrite bashing! Grin

garlicfrother · 06/01/2012 16:49

Ah, good advice, OM! Thanks :)

garlicfrother · 06/01/2012 16:54

Nice to know he was offended, anyway.

IslaDoit · 06/01/2012 17:05

How's that looking? I amended my quote very slightly if that's ok.

You've been suspended Garlic? What did you do? And did I retweet it?!

garlicfrother · 06/01/2012 17:13

You did Grin I may have expressed a personal opinion about Councillor Coleman's alleged abuse of social housing and benefits expenses.

When they delete the tweet, the retweets go too. Off to look at 12th day now!

garlicfrother · 06/01/2012 17:19

Great post, really. Fantastic pictures, too: they make it all seem so much more unfair. Nice tidying, Isla!

IslaDoit · 06/01/2012 17:20

Oo-er!

I've tweeted you've been suspended on the frothers' blog.

IslaDoit · 06/01/2012 17:21

Thank you Smile

It is a marvellous post RBOTP. Well done!

KnottyLocks · 06/01/2012 17:23

Pistey, that's a corker of a post. Simply but effectively put.

What the hell were you worrying about? Smile

OpinionatedMum · 06/01/2012 17:28

Am attempting to write a blog post about housing benefit, who claims it (only 1 in 8 unemployed), how it is calculated(local housing allowance) and look in detail at what the effects of the changes will be.

It is getting quite long and boring but will clear up a lot of the propaganda fuelled misconceptions.

Don't know if you will be interested after the 12 days have finished?

Also researching tenancy changes in social housing, the changes to homeless help and how legal aid reforms will affect welfare and housing advice. Also how the universal credit will impact on affording your rent.

TeWihara · 06/01/2012 17:35

Yes - definately still interested.

IslaDoit · 06/01/2012 17:36

What Te said.

BecauseImWorthIt · 06/01/2012 17:49

Brilliant post, Pistey. I have commented too, although somehow managed to do it in my real name Blush

Still, you know what that is anyway!

Bluestocking · 06/01/2012 17:51

Blimey, Mme Lindor, that was quite a spat on the other thread. Who knew being a waitress on a cross channel ferry was so well paid? Being partial to a bit of a froth myself, I've been loving your work over the last couple of months.

StewieGriffinsMom · 06/01/2012 18:55

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

cardibach · 06/01/2012 19:07

Hi Frothers! I have been very remiss lately and not read or posted. However, do you remeber right back in the first thread I emailed my Lib-Dem MP with our concerns and linked in the thread (probably not, but anyway, I did). I have just had a reply from him - it is very long - I think he must have taken my email seriously. I'll copy it below:

First of all, please accept my sincere apologies for the delay in this reply.

I am sorry to hear that you are so dismayed at the work which the Liberal Democrats have managed to achieve while in coalition. I certainly understand your frustration, and I agree that, were the Liberal Democrats to be the main party in power, the situation would likely be very different.

I also understand your frustration at what have been some very tough choices on Government policy. Some policies going through Parliament are not necessarily what the Liberal Democrats would have wanted in an ideal world, and I accept that. Nonetheless, we are managing to get many policies through: around three quarters of the Lib Dem manifesto from the election is included in the coalition agreement, as compared to around two thirds of the Tory manifesto. I accept that on some big policies, such as the fight to make Parliament proportionally representative of the UK vote and tuition fees, we, as the Liberal Democrats, have not had our way. Indeed, I could not reconcile myself to the Government?s proposals on tuition fees given the pledge I had made before the election, and so I rebelled on that occasion. I kept that promise even though, looking at the detail of the legislation, most students will actually be better off under the new system: they won?t be paying back until they earn £21,000 or more per annum, and the watershed after thirty years will still be in place. I acknowledged, though, that I had already made a promise, and I could not in all conscience agree with the Government?s decision, especially given the amount of people who have felt betrayed since.

Yet, on policies such as doubling the income tax threshold to £10,000, and pushing for more urgent reform of the House of Lords, and working to minimise the impact of the cuts on the most vulnerable in our society (I can assure you that although the cuts are quite severe, they would likely have been even more so had the Conservatives won with a majority), the Lib Dems are having a disproportionately significant influence. We must remember that the Liberal Democrats represent only 16%, or 1 in 7 MPs in the governing coalition. We are doing what we can, but I can understand that for many voters that may not be enough, and I am dismayed by that. I do sincerely wish that more Liberal Democrat policies could be brought forward, and legislated on.

You mention that the Liberal Democrats should be willing to break up the coalition if necessary, in order to force our policies through. I must say that I do not believe that that is a viable option. Were the country to be in a good position financially, and in a stable environment, then I would not hesitate to say that an election could be one possible alternative, but that is not the case. We find ourselves in one of the longest recessions, or stagnations, in our country?s history, and we are doing quite well compared to the rest of Europe. Adding political instability to an already volatile financial situation could be catastrophic for the UK economy; even the overt threat of such action could cause untold harm. The reason we entered a coalition in the first place was because the situation was too volatile to risk a minority Government, and/or a second election, and the situation globally has gotten worse since then, especially when we consider our direct neighbours in the EU.

So, in summary; I understand you frustrations, and I sympathise, deeply. There have been occasions where I have felt unable to support the Government?s policies, and I have fought, behind the scenes and on occasion in public, for the Government to change its policies on a variety of issues, including the most recent u-turn on mobility allowance for the disabled in residential care, for example. The coalition is by no means ideal, but I do sincerely believe that it is right to continue in it, and I urge you to look in greater detail at the policies which Liberal Democrats are pushing through Parliament. We are having an impact on a whole range of fronts, even if that impact is not always noted in the Press.

A final note: I can assure you that I fervently hold to the ideals I was elected on, and you can see that by the way I vote, and by the fact I do rebel when I cannot reconcile the Government?s policies with the will of people across Ceredigion. To my astonishment this has actually been recognised in the Press! (see: www.walesonline.co.uk/news/welsh-politics/welsh-politics-news/2012/01/05/the-feisty-four-welsh-politicians-making-an-impact-in-the-westminster-theatre-91466-30061693/) Please do continue to explain to me what policies I can help you with, and when you feel Government policies do not match up to your concerns, or are not for the good of the nation as a whole. I am more than happy to listen to your concerns, and to make representations on your behalf where necessary. That is what I am elected to do, after all.

I hope that this has helped reassure you to some degree, and that this email has been taken in the spirit that it was meant. I hope that, even if we differ in our opinion of the coalition, you will not hesitate to contact me again on any issue where you feel I may be of assistance, and I will see what I can do.

I have taken my name and his off it for anonymity reasons.

I've posted this eslewhere, too, as I'm not sure where you are all posting now!

HedleyLamarr · 06/01/2012 19:35

garlic that must be the reason cunting Twitter have suspended my account too. The utter cunts! They haven't bothered to let me know I've been suspended other than via an on screen message. Then when I sent them an email they sent an automated reply. I can't be arsed to set another email up, so I'll wait till they unsuspend me.

MmeLindor. · 06/01/2012 19:41

Garlic
What on EARTH did you post? Never heard of a Twitter account being suspended.

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MmeLindor. · 06/01/2012 19:48

cardibach
Brilliant work, what a good response.

garlic
you were fa on twitter were you not? We should start a twitter campaign.

What was your exact tweet? Was it libellous?

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MmeLindor. · 06/01/2012 19:49

Bluestocking
You just made me HOWL with laughter at ferry stewardess.

SGM
the one in which I was called fat, lazy and dumb. The words arse and lindor were uttered, if I remember rightly.

shoves lindor out of sight

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garlicfrother · 06/01/2012 19:53

It could have been thought defamatory. Sorry to hear you've been suspended, too, Hedley :(

It's the first time I've been banned from anywhere. I feel like a proper activist now!

MmeLindor. · 06/01/2012 19:56

SPILL Garlic.

There are so many rude tweets, cannot believe it was that bad.

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