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WTF are Frothers? Have you seen them around and wondered? Not a quiche, but a protest group. Tory, Labour, Lib Dems - Common Goal - Protest Against the Cuts

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MmeLindor. · 26/12/2011 21:32

What are the Frothers?

The term "Frothers" came about one dank and dismal November day in 2011. A frustrated user of the parenting forum Mumsnet started a thread about her dismay at the cuts that the Conservative/Liberal Democrat government was inflicting on the British public.

She stated that she was not "quite a frothing berserker but I am getting rather cross with our government messing with the good stuff".

The good stuff - policies, benefits, institutions that had taken years to achieve were being cut for no good reason, often leaving gaping holes in the fabric of British society.

The NHS, with which we Brits have a love-hate relationship, but like a favourite sibling, we wish to protect from harm.

Sure Start, a successful scheme that supported parents who were struggling and offered children from deprived backgrounds a better start in life.

Universal Child Benefit was cut for those families who had one earner bringing in more than £44k a year. If both parents each earn less than £44k, they keep their UCB payments. This obviously hit single parents and families with a single earner hardest.

Disability Living Allowance and Employment and Support Allowance - which enabled those with disabilities to live a decent life, without feeling that they were begging for assistance or were a burden to the taxpayer.

Student Fees, the introduction of which, contrary to Lib Dem pre-election promises, means that a whole generation of young people will have to think carefully before applying to higher education.

These and many other cuts are being made in the name of austerity. We are "all in this together", but some of us are deeper in this than others.

We all understand that there are sacrifices to be made but why should these sacrifices be borne by those who already have so little?

The general public seems oblivious of the dangers being faced, they are unaware of the injustices being wrought on the already disadvantaged.

The government is winning the war of the headlines. They have blasted the recipients of DLA and ESA as scrounger and cheats so often that the general public believe it. They misinterpret data to "prove" their points. Teachers are painted as being irresponsible and greedy, while the bankers rake in the money.

The poster on Mumsnet was not alone for long. Within a few days, a group of over 30 posters had formed. They asked themselves, "What can we do?".

The idea of a blog was born. Three days later the blog had over thirty authors signed up, a Facebook page and a Twitter account.

The Aims:

  • to open the general publics' eyes to the injustices being created by the governement
  • to inform those who are facing cuts about their rights
  • to link with other activists and charities, in order to put pressure on the government

Are you a Frother?

Come and join us.

BLOG

FACEBOOK

TWITTER

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MmeLindor. · 03/01/2012 13:32

DAY 8 - Bfeeding - Clare

DAY 9 - Women - SGM

DAY 10 -Lords/Protest - Ava

DAY 11 - PIP ? Effects ??

DAY 12 - Sure Start - Ratherbeonthepiste

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Peachy · 03/01/2012 13:34

Exactly Julia

Plus women tend to pick up the shitty jobs: ones that make them dependent but need doing at home, or caring (budgets shrunk*), education (budgets shrunk)... this feeds back to dependence on working benefits, the ones Miliband seems to be backing away from, and means that working class women will be faced with a choice about having children- that will mostly end with 'I can't afford to reproduce'.

Planned wise reproduction is fine; I don't know i;d have ever chosen to have a child in a non working family. In a party that seems to interpret Middle Class = good and working class / poor = bad it becomes scary and leads me to question what really lies at the root of their polices.

The stuff from Ed is the same- the glaring omission from his speech is reality: back when Beveridge, and indeed Nye Bevan, were writing disabled people were institunalised, poor kids left school in their early teens, women were stuck at home with umpteen kids and no gadgets meaning less jobs taken and a 'family wage', babies with severe health needs died shortly after birth and cancer meant an imminent death: of course their plans do not fit what we have now, how could they? But we can rebuild if we think creatively. The key however is maximising tax revenue. Workfare limits that and only rewards big business (how someone can work FT for free and search for job nobody knows and it also reduces their chances of retraining, vontary experience, work placements that actually suit their needs...). Clearly the state has recognosed that there will be less jobs- twice as a big a workforce combined with mechanisation and the net = less jobs; they are giving up on taxation and relying on workfare payments and state control to prevent anarchy. Whilst using a Big Brother media to disseminate misinformation about anyone in need.

But then this is the generation that thinks Big Brother is about slightly dim people getting their clothes off on late night TV, and not an Orwellian nightmare state. So not surprising.

MmeLindor. · 03/01/2012 13:39

9 Ladies Breastfeeding?

Anyone think of snappy title to blog?

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MmeLindor. · 03/01/2012 13:41

Oh, some EXCELLENT points there, Peachy. Can I steal that for my blog post today?

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MmeLindor. · 03/01/2012 13:52

Have gone with "9 Ladies Lactating"

if anyone has a better suggestion, shout please.

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Peachy · 03/01/2012 13:56

Of course you can Mme.

Peachy · 03/01/2012 13:57

Good title Mme.

MmeLindor. · 03/01/2012 14:47

Here is new post including Peachy's comment. Wasn't sure about putting your name on it, Peachy.

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Peachy · 03/01/2012 15:13

I woyldn't have minded but you amde a great post there as it is Mme.

IslaDoit · 03/01/2012 15:31

Great post. Have added a comment about local support and will send it to the NCT press office to see if they'll promote and comment.

MmeLindor. · 03/01/2012 16:01

We should think of titles.

My mum was very impressed when we told her that Dad was F&B Manager at the Bowling Club, rather than "the lad* that organises the corned beef and salad".

*when a 67yo is called a "lad", you can accurately surmise the average age of bowling club members.

Thanks. Did you read the link the Green Benches blog here it is again - Mr Byre should be made to copy that blog out in full 50x before bed.

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Scarletbanner · 03/01/2012 16:03

To see that Iain Duncan Smith has responded to Liam Byrne's Guardian article on welfare reform by crowing that Labour got it wrong on welfare and urging them to abandon their opposition to the welfare reform bill in the Lords.

Nice one Liam, falling into a Tory trap. Don't do it Ed!!

MmeLindor. · 03/01/2012 16:40

Have you seen this? Excellent blog but bloody scary.

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MmeLindor. · 03/01/2012 21:08

I have amended my blog with some of the points made since I posted it, and added a bit about the motivations of the politicians. And the rise of disability hate crime, which is no coincidence.

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garlicfrother · 04/01/2012 04:24

Is everyone okay with the 'Recent Comments' thingy on the right? I'd been putting off figuring it out, then it came to me in a flash (sort of) so I just got on with it. Anybody can take it off again, of course,

I am dreaming about all this stuff now (frother issues, not programming) and it's not helping my depression. Hence my low profile. I am reading everything & admiring all your work :)

MmeLindor. · 04/01/2012 07:30

I'm ok with recent comments, but both that and the site map doesn't seem to be working, Garlic. Am on Chrome, if that makes a difference.

Does anyone have a post for today? I think that Ava was going to do one on the Lords, and how to protest.

And tomorrow is the LAST DAY of Xmas. Thank fuck. 12 piper piping - about PIP.

I thought we could use one of SEO's posts on Friday to give us some breathing space and then perhaps someone would like to write something for the weekend or beginning of next week.

We should think about posting frequency. I don't think that we can sustain a daily post, unless we get more writers on board.

A big issue is that for some of our writers, this is coinciding with extremely stressful personal time as they are fighting the cuts themselves. I can understand that this leaves them, like you Garlic, a bit de-frothed.

And many others are back to work, or have other stuff going on. I will not be able to devote so much time once our move hits the hot phase in about 4 or 5 weeks.

SGM was keen to write another post, so I can ask her. And there were a few bloggers who expressed an interest. Will have another look at my timeline on Twitter.

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MmeLindor. · 04/01/2012 13:54

Does anyone have a post for today?

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Bramshott · 04/01/2012 14:51

Don't know if anyone else has read this thread but I have suggested to the OP that she might like to submit some of her worries about the NHS Bill and its impact on children with chronic health conditions for the Blog. Makes for interesting reading from a doctor's point of view.

IslaDoit · 04/01/2012 15:11

I don't have another post. At some point I will get round to writing one about employment rights being eroded but I've been abandoned by dh for a few days and have no childcare until next week the bastard and I have a hundred things to do, 3 of which are super urgent/important Sad

IslaDoit · 04/01/2012 15:12

I'm only on now because ds is watching Thomas the Tank Engine on Demand Five and I am allowed a very small window to post in. I'm not allowed any access to books or MS office or anything useful because ds shuts the laptop and then tries to throw it on the floor Hmm He's very fast and very strong!

garlicfrother · 04/01/2012 15:50

God, you had me worried there, MmeLindt!! I think Feedburner must have been down when you looked - like the Twitter feed, it's imported directly from other servers so will fail if they do. All looks functional atm, also on Chrome.

The first week of the year is hardest for most, so it's unsurprising we're a bit short on activity. I'll worry more if it doesn't start picking up again next week.

Would anybody like to see if CinnabarRed still fancies posting? I'd love to see some of that cool economic sense amongst the heartbreak :)

Was just thinking about how history's being rewritten as we live it. When our grandchildren watch films & TV from the 80s, 90s & 00s (possibly on a shared TV, using obsolete technology) and ask how life got so much harder, so quickly, they'll be told it's because all that wealth made people greedy and they expected to live comfortably while doing nothing. The fact that the banks executed a government coup will be brushed into a small corner, only examined by academics who will be called unrealistic.

I've realised I'm under-claiming benefits Shock Sad Like most other 'scroungers', apparently. But not like Dave or Vince Angry

yummymummyreally · 04/01/2012 16:48

Don't know if you'd all be interested but I was wondering whether a piece on NHS finance would be any use to you, as a kind of short intro to how the funds are distributed around the system as background info for frothers readers? (it's my day job!)

What do you think? Blush

MmeLindor. · 04/01/2012 17:22

Hate to say this, Garlic, but it is still not working. Can check on IE to see if it is my browser. Maybe adblock doodah?

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MmeLindor. · 04/01/2012 17:34

Used SEO's post today, we still need something for tomorrow.

toomanycuts.blogspot.com/2011/12/on-tenth-day-of-xmas-my-true-love-gave.html

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MmeLindor. · 04/01/2012 17:36

ah, it is my ad blocker, btw.

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