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Occupy London

288 replies

glasnost · 07/10/2011 12:38

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Well, why not MNers?

What have your kids got to lose? In NY there are alot of families with children protesting and occupying that doesn't get mentioned in the mainstream press.

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smallwhitecat · 09/10/2011 12:12

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glasnost · 09/10/2011 12:48

Rent a gobs and rent a mobs are the collective names for posters like swc, whomovedmychoc, Alouiseg et al. I can almost smell the bitterness emanating from my computer.

Don't get sucked in too deep Alice. Gazing down the black pit of these posters' souls is not a good place to be. OR grammatically informative.

Block starts at 1pm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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smallwhitecat · 09/10/2011 13:14

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glasnost · 09/10/2011 13:58

Selling out to the Man really does create self loathing as embodied by swc whose bitterness at people daring to protest is positively FREUDIAN.

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Tortington · 09/10/2011 14:08

i do like a good revolution

aliceliddell · 09/10/2011 14:33

glasnost I haven't looked for Twitter etc so don't know how it's going. But other opportunities are anticipated.
Alouiseg it's a good job you were in Tahrir Square to explain the CFD's otherwise they would never have- no, wait...

Alouiseg · 09/10/2011 14:47

You're comparing London with Libya? Seriously?

Peachy · 09/10/2011 14:54

'your local community needs you. Go along to council meetings, find out what it's about. If you have any better ideas, share them.

did that

offered to run a sibling support group for ASD families

great said council, that'll cost you about (a week's arer's allowance) to hire the room

so I could not do it

Presumably the gist is that in order to maximise the chances of other people's kids and careers (as per WMMC) I have to sacrifice my own SN boys by agreeing that state services should be cut to them thereby knocking their life chances immensely?

Yes, because that is clearly going to make sense to me isn't it.

I won't be protesting because I can't afford to get there. And because the fight to get decent schooling for my boys left me agoraphobic. No other reason though.

glasnost · 09/10/2011 15:21

Alouiseg Tahrir Square is in Egypt. Oops. whomovedmychoc isn't only one making a cock of themselves. You're out of your depth.

Twitter says is going really well (few thousand) though no attention at all from mainstream press although Krishnan wotisface from C4 News tweeted that it may be their lead item over Liam Fox blah.

Check it out live here
bambuser.com/channel/cyclecast/broadcast/2030965

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glasnost · 09/10/2011 15:26

Well, well the BEEB's got on the case but..........

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smallwhitecat · 09/10/2011 15:44

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breadandbutterfly · 09/10/2011 15:46

Great posts here from weeonion, ttosca (as always), glasnost etc.

i am still in bed with chest infection and 3 small kids to look after and work to do so not going anywhere, but will do the contact-a-random-lord-by-email thingy re the NHS, as am Very Angry about that.

Can't believe the number of useful idiots posting on this thread. At what point will they stop believing everything the govt feeds them via the media? Can they not look at the evidence of their own lives/those of their friends, and figure out something is not quite right?

breadandbutterfly · 09/10/2011 15:53

just taking the NHS - hand on heart, whomovedmychoc, SWC, Alouiseeg etc, can you honestly say you're not just a teensy bit worried about what is being proposed? Or indeed, shocked, angry and terrified, as I am?

Remind me who voted for these huge structural changes to the NHS again? What mandate the Coalition have for this? Where the Tories or Lib Dems announced this in their manifestos?

I don't know anyone - regular Tory-voters included - who are happy with these changes. Are we all supposed to just smile sweetly and ignore it whilst our democracy is subverted and our future healthcare, and that of our loved ones, is put at risk?

Or do you three all have private healthcare or shares in private healthcare companies and don't give a fuck? Hmm

HoneyMomster · 09/10/2011 15:59

I am genuinely a bit taken aback by the sheer snideyness and sidelining of what is an important issue by dismissing it as student union politics and the like. Protesting about the NHS - the NHS for Gods sake, it's one of the things that makes the UK stand out - as somehow being on a par with growing dreadlocks and being terribly earnest in an indie pub.

Be anti NHS if you like, be apathetic if you like, but to be so reductive and cynical about real people's real concerns is very strange to me.

glasnost · 09/10/2011 16:02

Strange HoneyMomster for us who still have souls. Scw lost hers when she sold out to the Man. And no, swc, bitterness PER SE isn't Freudian but self loathing IS and that's what I detect in your posts.

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glasnost · 09/10/2011 16:06

"Useful idiots". Great term breadandbutterfly!

Soviet sypmathisers in the West the original was coined for. These lot watch PRAVDA to get their info, methinks. Or the Murdoch press or the BEEB which has gone that way too. Cheers, Thompson.

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Wormshuffler · 09/10/2011 16:10

Loving your work ukuncut and thanks for the link op

smallwhitecat · 09/10/2011 18:17

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aliceliddell · 09/10/2011 18:48

swc I think others will agree that protecting the status quo lacks both ambition and imagination. However, it would certainly be preferable to the wholesale fragmentation and privatisation proposed by this crock of shite Bill.

whomovedmychocolate · 09/10/2011 19:01

Glasnost wow rent a gob. You are a classy woman to be sure Hmm

I'm not the one bitter about the state of the UK. I just accept it and actually move on. You're the one harking for a bygone age of overspending and irresponsibility.

But hey, my kids believe in the tooth fairy, there's room enough in the society for people with funny ideas.

Incidentally, I'll be at the stock exchange on Tuesday working. Will give you a wave shall I while you sit idle outside.

whomovedmychocolate · 09/10/2011 19:02

Breadandbutterfly actually, having read the documents I know a lot of it won't be going through and the slimmed down version is not actually that bad. And frankly whether or not it worries me doesn't matter we can't afford to go on like this

Disputandum · 09/10/2011 19:28

Someone will be along shortly to tell you that we can afford it, chocolate, if we only fleece the rich, fleece the corporate overlords and clamp down on tax avoidance.

If you display scepticism you may well be accused of lacking imagination, being an apathetic sheep or working out of millbank.

Peachy · 09/10/2011 19:31

Thing is WMMC you might be able to accept it and move on

Me, I am petrified what happens to my SN boys as I see all the services they need to have any chance of working or anything at all vanishing.

I can't just accept everything that is cut, I would do them a massive disservice if I did.

whomovedmychocolate · 09/10/2011 19:58

I understand that Peachy. And I worry for elderly relatives. And I worry for disabled people I know. But I also acknowledge that it will shake down to be about 30% as bad as you think (which will be bad, but not as bad as it could be). And people are massively resourceful when forced to be. I hope, for your sake as much as mine, that it'll work out. Because it sort of has to, we are not a bottomless pit of money.

The problem is we all have our own idea of what is important. And none of us has entirely got it right. I don't have the answer, but I know what's we have been doing is bonkers in the extreme.

Peachy · 09/10/2011 20:02

Perhaps, I am not sure I have been doing the bonkers birt though- no debt etc. Only thing that stopped us being self sufficient was a redundancy.

But if we cannot finds work in a very narrow time frame ( when Dh qualifies + about 8 weeks) then we lose the rented house. Lose the house means social housing. As we have specialist needs (SSD has decided ASD boys need separate rooms for safety) then we will have to go into temp accom awaiting that: SSD would foster 2 most severe boys out whilst we are doing that.

Now that is not 30% as bad. For me, as with any Mum, that would be a layer of devastation that I fight the horror of daily.