The queen visits Ireland

[newwave]

The parasite queen is to visit Ireland, the security costs are estimated at £6.2 million, The irish government are slashing wages and shutting down the welfare state but can find money for this bullshit.

If I was an Irish citizen I would be livid at this blatant waste of slender rescources.

just shows how out of touch these people are with ordinary folk,also it is a way of keeping NI attached to the UK just in case people might want out of the UK and Europe.

So the EU bail Ireland out and they spend millions for the queen to visit. Great governing!

This would be a great AIBU... "I just borrowed X amount to keep me from bankruptcy, AIBU to throw a party for a friend (only half the family likes) visiting? btw, can't afford to take my child to the doctor."

so the new government have as much financial savvy as the previous ones.
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newwave: are you in Ireland?

Because you should be complaining to the Irish Government. It is they who made the invitation and are accountable for the expense to their own electorate.

I think it's a bit harsh to condemn the Irish Government as "being out of touch with ordinary folk" on the basis of one invitation they have extended. Though I supplies they'll be voted out if the Irish people really consider them to be so. I suspect that would be on rather wider issues though.

Why is it the queen's fault?

If the Irish are happy enough to extend an invitation to go, why shouldn't she?

And quite why you suggest the queen is a parasite is beyond me given the crown estate is actually a net contributor to the treasury rather than a taker.

In other words, she pays in way more than she gets out and I could only wish that our government managed our nations finances like the Royal family manages theirs.

Is this visit any different than the Popes visit to Britian which cost a lot more than 6.2 million to police and organise? The welfare state in ROI is certainly not being shut down and in many aspects is better than the U.K system and a lot of other European countries.

NG2

If the Irish are happy enough to extend an invitation to go, why shouldn't she?

It's the Irish government not the Irish people who issued the invite. I suspect the Irish people of whom I know many would rather have the money spent on other more important things.

As for the queen and the rest of the royal ponces i will start a new thread on that subject when I have the time.

conc.

Not substantial difference to the pope at all. The Catholic church should have paid all the costs for that unless they are skint from paying compensation to abused children

Why should the Catholic church have paid, the Pope was invited by the prime minister just as the queen was invited by the Irish prime minister?

Then just maybe both governments should avoid inviting freeloaders and the head of a very suspect church that has caused misery to very many children and others to visit at taxpayers expense.

Well, arguable Gordon Brown wasn't the electorate's choice, but I think his administration did believe it represented the nation, and requested HMQ to extend a full State visit invitation to the Pope (the last time a Pope came, visit of John Paul II, it wasn't a State visit and therefore less costly, so that option does exist, but wasn't chosen). I don't think anything can be dome about that now, though.

The actions of the Irish Govt and President are completely separate, and it is up to them who they invite and what level of hospitality they extend.

newwave: are you Irish (or in Ireland)?

Med, married to Irish partner

I sort of see your point, but £6.2 million is a drop in the ocean, isn't it? It's hardly going to get the Irish economy looking fresh-faced and rosy again.

Does anyone want to sponsor the eggs I'm going to take along to lob towards herself?

I'm trying to figure out exactly you are trying to insult with this thread - obviously the Irish people, president and government, the Queen, the British government, the pope, the catholic church. Is there anyone else? Because it is a pretty comprehensive list grin.

Only those that deserve it :o

I sort of see your point, but £6.2 million is a drop in the ocean, isn't it? It's hardly going to get the Irish economy looking fresh-faced and rosy again.

As you say not a lot but how many children's centres or clubs for the elderly would £6.2 million keep open and I hope you would agree they are far more important than to pay for our royal ponce queen and her hangers on to traipse around Ireland

Ireland and the U.K are joined at the hip and I am looking forward to the Queens visit, hopefully the old diehards will stay away and let the visit be a pleasant one for all the visitors. I hope that the Queen can also visit the north at some time in the near future.

conc

Serious question

Please tell me why you are looking forward to the visit

Obama is coming to visit us the same week. Do you have any objection to him?

I am glad she is visiting. The last time a British Monarch visited was in 1911 which is far too long, considering that we are next-door neighbours.

Financially the timing could be better but 6.2 million is tiny compared to our debt and not likely to do any more breaking of the banks.

They have managed to find Irish roots for Michelle Obama as well.

very dodgy ones though, one of her ancestors being sold to an Irish landowner whose relative knocked her up, who knows how? Not exactly something to be proud of is it?

newwave, I've given my reasons for being glad she is visiting. Do you have any opinion on them?

Maryz, I dont agree but I see where your coming from and I do understand the importance of tourism (did the Ring of Kerry a couple of years ago) but in straightened times it does seem wrong.

TBH I hope she gets ignored.

Oh, I hadn't heard that bit, Winter! Switched off Tubbers too early this morning obviously!

This thread has reminded me of when Prince Charles came to visit and walked down the street where I worked at the time.

I remember the woman in front of me saying "Oh, he's real small!" in such a disappointed voice!

It's the Irish government not the Irish people who issued the invite.

And who do the Irish government represent and act on behalf of???

NG2

Thats a fallacy, for example the UK government neither represents my views and does not act on my behalf or they would not be doing what they are doing to society.

I suspect the Irish Government are the same.