The queen visits Ireland

[newwave]

The parasite queen is to visit Ireland, the security costs are estimated at £6.2 million, The irish government are slashing wages and shutting down the welfare state but can find money for this bullshit.

If I was an Irish citizen I would be livid at this blatant waste of slender rescources.

Careful newwave you'll be hanged for treason mere hours before Wills and Kate get spliced such are these serfy times. If I were Irish I'd feel insulted that the sour mouthed, badly dressed freeloading inbred were coming to visit.

Oops! That'll be two of us on the scaffolding then. Else calm, intelligent types like Maryz could line up to throw rotten veg at us.

So Newwave, you do not believe in democracy then?

Ireland has full PR I believe so in theory they are at the very least representing the vast majority of the Irish people.

Why am I looking forward to the visit? Well, a lot of my family past and present are/were members of the armed forces and I feel the visit would in some way pay some respect to the massive contribution the Irish made during the 2 world wars and are still making in Afghanistan, Iraq and libya at the moment, Ireland and the U.K have a long history of co operation when the British Isles came under threat and I feel her visit will in a lot of ways heal old wounds and allow both nations to move forward in a more positive way, that can only be a good thing.

My MIL adores the Royals so no doubt she's looking forward to it. Isn't it quite a big deal? First visit by a British Monarch since all the Troubles etc? Or am I making that up?

?65 MILLION between the queen and Obama. 65 fucking million euro, when we supposedly don't have enough money to pay for support teachers in schools, or a thousand other things.

Given enough time I could tell you 65 million things that would deserve that money other than a short visit from one of the richest women in the world and a fucking American politician.

I'm just hoping she'll say sorry and the die-hard-like-to-be-the-victims behave.

The cost is a bit much though isn't it.

Cameron pretty much said sorry last year for some on the trouble that was caused and I suppose its a hard thing to apologise for a lot of stuff that never happened in the Queens lifetime, the real apology should have come from Winston Churchill with his appalling treatment of Ireland during the second world war.

If she says sorry directly and not in a pretty much kind of way then I think the ball in then firmly in Ireland's court.

I think she'll have to say it as it'll be quite hard to get an apology out of Churchill!!

Have I missed something? On page 1 it was £6.2 million. By page 2 it's ?65 million?

I know the Euro needs to depreciate but that's a lot!

But hey, where is this money coming/going? Virtually all that cost will be paid to the police, security services in wages/overtime. So it's not really money which is leaving the economy. It's just money moving around. And having money moving around the economy is a good thing.

Between the two I said. And thats straight from the front of the Irish papers.

As an Irishwomen I really don't have a problem with the Queen visiting. She's the head of state of our nearest neighbour, a country we now enjoy good relations with. I'm not personally keen on monarchies, but the majority of British people seem fine with it....it isn't our business to tell them that they shouldn't have a monarch, any more than its their business to tell us we should. If the visit goes well it will strengthen peace in Northern Ireland (a peace which Dublin and London worked together closely to achieve) and show that both countries have grown up and learnt to get along. If Sinn Feiners had any sense (which they really really don't, bless'em) they'd realise that the sight of an Irish government welcoming the Queen as a FOREIGN head of state illustrates our independence rather than undermining it.

Seriously, what would throwing eggs achieve exactly?

Now that extremist republicans in Northern Ireland have come out and said that their latest campaign of murder and violence is directly attributable to not wanting the Queen to visit, I think it should absolutely go ahead as a statement of principle.

Chil, the extremist republicans that you speak of are mainly from south of the border, they just do their killing in the north.

I don't really care who they are or where they're from to be honest. From what I remember, it's all just a mafia-style protection racket anyway. But if a few ignorant cowards in balaclavas think they can scare NI (or Eire) back into the dark ages or that anyone is going to cancel state visits on their account, then the event absolutely has to go ahead just to show how out of touch they really are

It does sound like a lot of money to be taking from the people, especially when they are suffering so many cuts.
The queen is one of the richest in the world, and David Cameroon has also just given her more money from parliament's crown estates, which is annoying when we are also suffering cuts.

The queen should contribute towards the costs, its the least she could do.

"The queen should contribute towards the costs, its the least she could do".

State visits anywhere in the world are always paid for by the host country. If they don't want to pay then they shouldn't issue the invitation. Expecting the visiting head of state to cough up would be considered incredibly rude and outside international norms (and very embarassing from an Irish POV...claiming to be too poor to put Her Madge up for a few nights would make us look like we were one step up from Albania)..

Alot of the blame for the inflated cost lies with the Real IRA halfwits, who are pushing up what would otherwise be a manageable security bill.

Are you against Obama visiting? And the Irish having to pay for security? I'm half Irish and I welcome her visit. I'm waiting for another thread to start slagging off the dear old Queen, then it's daggers at dawn Newwave! In fact I brought back a few pointed objects just for you, from Tenerife!

Whilst I am no royalist I hope the whole trip is a great success and that the Queen is offered a cead mile failte.