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Burning Skin? Nausea? Headaches? PROTESTORS BEWARE

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peacelovingmother · 20/02/2011 17:47

Let me make it clear that I am not posting this to frighten anyone or dissuade from protesting, quite the opposite. But everyone must be made aware of this.

I have been protesting lately, after being active a couple of years in the field of disability rights. My local council do not like me very much.

Since October I have been suffering from burning skin (often worse at night), nausea, headaches, disrupted sleep, poor concentration, electric static and shock feelings... you name it. :(

Recently I discovered through Googling that these are symptoms of electronic harassment, and that it had been used on the women
peace protestors at Greenham Common in the 1980's. I will try and post a link to a video about it later.

Anyhow, apart from the symptoms, you can tell you are being harassed by using an EMF / ELF meter. They are available cheaply on eBay. If you want a good one, get one that covers low frequencies. Mine is 16 Hz upwards. I am currently setting up a Facebook page to expose this and posting videos of the EMF / ELF meter readings in my home. Angry If you are a target I would encourage you to do the same. A cheaper method, if you have a magnetic compass, is to walk around with it and watch where it deviates from true North. It is picking up electromagnetic fields.

Its apalling that the government has stooped to this low, and that because they have our names and addresses can target us like this. My entire family are being targetted, the world needs to know about this crime against humanity.

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ThisIsANiceCage · 22/02/2011 18:21

Honestly? I'd broadly agree that MH issues are very possible here.

With the caveat that, on the occasions that real shit does happen, accusing the subject of paranoia is exactly how most observers would react.

It doesn't help that there are actual - I won't call them conspiratorial but certainly not publicly debated - plans to slash state and private insurance support for sick people.

And it doesn't help that this and the previous govt have been actively placing stories in the press to associate disability with fraud (as I discovered when I complained about a BBC story and the sweet but naive reporter kindly replied that a govt press office had approved the story).

I can't tell what sort of disability rights work the OP has done (does she say and I'm missing it?) She identifies her local council as her persecutors, but here's no reason someone can't be genuinely persecuted and misidentify the perpetrators.

So in this instance I may broadly agree about possible MH, but I'd also put money on disability campaigners becoming the sort of target environmental campaigners have been.

ThisIsANiceCage · 22/02/2011 18:25

Sorry, significance of deliberate press stories is that intentionally demonising a particular group through the press is usually a preface to something much nastier.

ambarth · 22/02/2011 18:27

I sympathise with that nice cage, but this is also very typical of mental ilness. I have a lot of experience of MH , both in my work and family.

ThisIsANiceCage · 22/02/2011 18:29

Sorry, Ambarth, my rant X-posted with you.

ambarth · 22/02/2011 18:36

Whatever the cause, her doctor should get to the bottom of it.

peacelovingmother · 22/02/2011 21:06

Psychosis.

Check my EMF/ELF meter:

I haven't said I am sure of who the perpetrators are. People in my situation guess. Its what we do. Since we can feel it 24-7 its part of the ordeal to wonder what the hell you did to deserve it.

I have had a lot to do with conspiracy theorists, and though I never used to believe it, I am beginning to. Lots of what I have read about 9/11 gives me major doubts.

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Snorbs · 22/02/2011 21:24

peacelovingmother, when your meter is showing 300, what are the units? And what frequency range is it picking up?

earwicga · 22/02/2011 21:43

Snorbs - looks from the video that the meter is a Solutions ME30308, but google has no results for it.

BooyFuckingHoo · 22/02/2011 21:53

"Lots of what I have read about 9/11 gives me major doubts."

not sure if this will have any effect on you but there is a saying that paper never refuses ink.

i could write a book saying that i was born an elephant and had surgery to humanise me aged 4. it wouldn't be true but the paper wouldn't know that. not everything you read is true. people often write things according to their own agenda.

earwicga · 22/02/2011 22:01

I'd mistaken an 8 for a B - this is the meter.

catinthehat2 · 22/02/2011 22:13

good spot E

catinthehat2 · 22/02/2011 22:15

Can I recommend everybody watch the other video on YOUtube from the OP

It is a 13 second classic.

Do not miss it.

BooyFuckingHoo · 22/02/2011 22:18

i have no sound but could clearly see an airplane.

and "UFOs's"?????Confused

catinthehat2 · 22/02/2011 22:20

Remarkable!

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 22/02/2011 22:25

I could see an aeroplane. I see them a lot. OP, if you are reading this, please do consider speaking to your doctor about these things. Maybe you're right and you are being targeted, but maybe you are living in a scary world when you don't need to be. I wish you well.

earwicga · 22/02/2011 22:25

I don't know enough about an of this to make a call either way, but I think Snorbs will understand the meter measures and can report back.

It's a shame that I think so little of our government, based on other things they do, that I can believe something like this is possible. But sadly anything is possible.

Snorbs · 22/02/2011 22:31

Thanks for that earwicga. Right, so according to the docs that meter measures magnetic flux in nT (nano Tesla) and it appears that peacelovingmother's meter is in magnetic flux mode.

The World Health Organisation says here that the safe limit for magnetic flux at 50Hz is 100µT (micro Tesla). So the WHO's safe limit is some 330 times greater than that measured by peacelovingmother.

Also, magnetic flux falls off very sharply over distance (inverse square law). Again, according to the WHO, a 300nT reading could be obtained 30cm away from an electric steam iron. But 100cm away that would fall to 30nT.

peacelovingmother, have you tried turning off everything mains-powered in your house and then taking a reading again? And do you live near to any underground or overhead power-lines?

earwicga · 22/02/2011 22:35

Thanks Snorbs. And you've proved what I've always known - ironing just isn't worth the risk.

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 22/02/2011 22:36
Snorbs · 22/02/2011 22:38

For reference, the Earth's magnetic field is around 30µT. Or, 100 times greater than the 300nT field measured by peacelovingmother's meter.

One other thing peacelovingmother - your meter doesn't measure microwave energy. Microwaves are at a frequency at least a million times higher than your meter can detect.

FannyFifer · 22/02/2011 22:48

So basically there is nothing abnormal whatsoever about the meter reading then?

catinthehat2 · 22/02/2011 22:52

nope

it's all in order

earwicga · 22/02/2011 22:58

I think what Snorbs is saying is that a measurement of 300nT is dangerous, but there could be a good reason for it such as an iron for example.

What the OP is saying is that readings go up to 1000, and affect her at night.

So to get true readings, measurements would have to be taken in the house when everything electrical was turned off.

Plus, this isn't the microwave stuff that is being talked on about the FB groups because the meter doesn't measure microwaves.

Snorbs · 22/02/2011 23:11

If you were standing in the middle of a field, far away from any electrical power lines and without any electronic devices on your person then, yes, a 300nT reading would be unusually high.

If you were standing in a typical UK house that has typical mains-powered devices in it - fridge, freezer, TV, PC, VCR, Sky+ box, clock radio, central heating system, mobile phone charger etc etc etc - then a few hundred nT of magnetic flux seems entirely reasonable.

Don't forget that many TVs and computers still have their power supplies turned on (and so generating flux), even when it looks like the thing's turned off, unless you actually turn them off at the wall socket. Same for the small mains-powered chargers for phones etc. Your VCR and microwave oven will be generating small amounts of flux even if all they're doing is showing the time of day.

Snorbs · 22/02/2011 23:13

Sorry, cross-posted with you earwicga.

According to the WHO at least, 300nT poses no health risk whatsoever. The reading would have to be hundreds of times stronger than that before the WHO believes there could be a risk.

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