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Goodbye Spongers!

163 replies

ShakesPear · 04/10/2010 23:06

Anyone else thrilled that the family on benefits living in a £12,000 pcm in London house paid by us will no longer be getting that benefit?

In fact I wonder if the cap on unemployment benefit is to high!

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BecauseImWorthIt · 04/10/2010 23:08
Biscuit
loopyloops · 04/10/2010 23:10

Have a Biscuit from me too.

sharbie · 04/10/2010 23:13

and a Hmm from me

longfingernails · 04/10/2010 23:22

Yes, I am very pleased.

The biscuit-mongers can tut all they like.

It is not "progressive" to allow spongers to get more in benefits than those who work.

I would set the limit much lower than £500 a week - but it's a great start.

This government is completely changing the face of Britain - and almost all of it for the better.

Alouiseg · 04/10/2010 23:26

It's a good progressive step. When some peculiar families decide to have 12 children to increase the size of their house and receive more child benefit we know that the welfare state has gone too far.

Yummy biscuits on this thread btw!

MollysChambers · 04/10/2010 23:29

View nice up there on your high horse?

clemetteattlee · 04/10/2010 23:30

Yes, I am "thrilled" that they will no longer have a house.
Bring back the workhouse I say - bastard poor Hmm

LastOrdersAgain · 04/10/2010 23:34

I like turtles.

TheCrackFox · 04/10/2010 23:42

I am really uneasy about it.

I live in a very mixed area (I am not on benefits) but TBH a good deal of people here are - I am seriously concerned that there will be major civil unrest. It all seems too fast.

SgtAngua · 05/10/2010 00:01

"Poverty is the parent of revolution and crime."

hmc · 05/10/2010 00:05

It is SqtAnqua, it is

cinnamontoast · 05/10/2010 09:35

Even Stephanie Flanders is not impressed by GO's cap on benefits, seeing it as an attack on people with health problems and a refusal to support children - here. She says it's purely to pacify Daily Mail readers and will save a pathetically small amount of money.
Btw, astonished that anyone can still use the term 'spongers'. Let's at least have a grown-up debate about this.

TotorosOcarina · 05/10/2010 09:37

Last orders - hahahahahahahahah!

DooinMeSizers · 05/10/2010 09:37

I am pleased that a family will no longer be able to pay the morgate/rent and face losing their home? Not really, no.

ItWasADarkAndStormyNight · 05/10/2010 09:38

Hmm yy the poor are ruining this country.

DooinMeSizers · 05/10/2010 09:39

And while you are up on there on your high horse try to remeber that we are all just one redundancy/bad investment away from being that family having our bills and rent paid 'paid by the tax payer'.

HumphreyCobbler · 05/10/2010 09:41

please don't use such inflammatory language

it doesn't help AT ALL

girlafraid · 05/10/2010 10:00

Absolutely - I'm THRILLED that cardboard city will soon be back and i'll be tripping over people sleeping in doorways again - how refreshing that we should make families sleep on the streets because they can't afford their rent, after all it's all their own fault isn't it?

And the reson that you (and I) are OK is because we're just so darn hard working and all round wonderful, luck just hasn't come into it at all.

There but for the grace of God go I.

BagofHolly · 05/10/2010 10:00

Can someone explain to me how this will work? The govt's own figs show 5 million people on benefits, but only 1 million jobs available. So what happens to the people who absolutely cannot find a job?

I'm missing something. Please help.

DooinMeSizers · 05/10/2010 10:03

I've been wondering the same BagofHolly. They are telling people everyone must work at the same time they are axing public sector jobs left, right and center and seemingly doing their best to drive small business into the ground Hmm

girlafraid · 05/10/2010 10:04

BagohHolly they are screwed. 800,000 vacancies available according to this morning's figures.

I believe the theory is that if they dissolve much of the welfare state then the private secotr will leap into the void creating lots of jobs and cash. Easy as that.

mumblechum · 05/10/2010 10:04

The five million on benefits aren't all unemployed as such, though, are they? Some will be on disability or carers' benefits. I think the unemployment total is less than two million, but I may be wrong.

Personally I'd like to see more people starting their own small businesses if they can't find employment.

Igglybuff · 05/10/2010 10:06

Love the fact that people think that housing benefit means million dollar mansions for people not working.

I've heard that most people on HB do actually work.

rantyknickers · 05/10/2010 10:06

Bagofholly, those are my thoughts exactly.

Hearing them say last week that those who have spent a lifetime on benefits will no longer be tolerated - what are they proposing happens. None of it is thought through.

There is massive unemployment in this country at the moment with qualified, experienced people desperate to find work. What chance do these 'scroungers' have of ever finding a job in this job market? And if they can't, what are they going to eat?

If this policy was backed up by a programme of training schemes, eduation and apprenticeships then maybe they would have a point.

Likewise, it's all very well to cut housing benefit (as it is a massive cost), but added to this the Government's policy of propping up house prices and supporting the buy to let investor means that without this benefit, large numbers of people can't afford the soaring house costs in this county.

Let houseprices and rent come down 30%, and then we won't need the housing benefit.

But I assume the Daily Mail won't like that.

jumpingbeans · 05/10/2010 10:06

Bagofholly, I often wonder that to, where are all these jobs going to come from,esp in communities where jobs are few and far between at the best of times.