Some NOW thoughts on EXPERIENCING EMOTIONS

[Papillon]

We must not negate our emotions nor dishonor anyone else's grief no matter what the cause.

Our astral body is the vehicle through which we humans have the ability to experience all manner of SENTIENCY. Emotions are merely one aspect of our human experience of SENTIENCY.

We must, and MUST is the critical word here, make the choice to experience each and every emotion in the immediacy of the moment and EXPERIENCE IT 100% for any residual emotion not fully experienced is ALWAYS placed within our PANDORA'S BOX which we keep safely guarded within our mental aura. This harboring of unexperienced emotion within this PANDORA'S BOX is the cause of all manner of disease and ill coming to us.

A key factor in experiencing our emotions in the NOW is that we have the opportunity to get it over and done with RIGHT THEN! And, the "RIGHT THEN" is the TIME/SPACE whereby we learn our greatest lesson from the situation which is causing us to be IMMEDIATELY OVERWHELMED by our emotion. To postpone the full 100% experienced emotion is the surest way to lose the knowledge gained from our experience. Allowing our lower, rational mind to chew on our suppressed emotions only aides and abets planetary negativity to be magnetized to our aura. By our choice to ignore and/or bury our emotions until such time as we THINK we can better handle them, we create the very thing we despise the most - our own victimization.

This is not advocating that we become raving mad or uncontrolled maniacs while experiencing any of our emotions - for I am not. To really experience any emotion, even the most vile of them all HATE, one need only RECOGNIZE it as existing within our BEING - right THEN AND THERE - and LET it just BE. Feel it, LET it exist 100% in that MOMENT and not one moment more.

When we do that, experience 100% whatever emotion we are being OVERWHELMED by, we are in control, we are in our CENTER OF POWER and from that point of CONSCIOUSNESS, we choose to LET it expend itself completely within that MOMENT OF TIME/SPACE. Sometimes we feel that we need to experience the emotion for a longer period of time but that is merely our own SELFISH need to get something more from the experience than what was to be learned.

How can one realistically in this dimension of consciousness impart this information to someone who has pain/grief?

As difficult as this may be to understand, it is a truism, we cannot ever "reason" with anyone who is CENTERED WITHIN THEIR ASTRAL (EMOTIONAL) BODY. There is no reasoning with anyone when they are choosing to experience their emotionalism. It is a physical impossibility for their MIND is no where to be found in that STATE OF BEING. We can only "reason" with a person when they, themselves, have made the choice to cease living within their astral vehicle as their only reality. Once a person has made the choice to become responsible for their thoughts, emotions and actions, then we can reason with them and teach them how to healthily experience their emotions - even their deepest grief.

There is also another misconception, that is to think that one can never again experience grief, anger, etc. over a situation. Since we are at the stage of our human development whereby our lower mind has the unique ability to "re-call" or "re-member" specific incidents of pain - such as the grief over the loss of our loved ones, we are prone to our astral vehicle being thrown IMMEDIATELY into the emotion of grief at the mere thought of our loved one. It is absolutely "OK" to experience "anew" another MOMENT IN TIME whereby we need only RECOGNIZE it as existing within our BEING - right THEN AND THERE - and LET it just BE. Feel it, LET it exist 100% in that MOMENT and not one moment more. It's tantamount to having a really great sneeze and feeling so good after it is done!

When the grief OVERWHELMS and simply LET it BE experienced 100%. When the grief is completely expended, you can have a great little chat about love and life´s lessons.

There are times of short temper and impatience that have OVERWHELMED and the emotions run amuck. Every single time that these emotions are not honored, experienced 100% in the immediacy of the MOMENT, the astral vehicle became the bully in ones life. To gain control over it and its need to dominate the consciousness, don´t feel GUILTY over the slip up. Do not feed it any negative type of thoughts or thought forms to sustain its bully control over life. Each and every time those slip ups occur, jump back and chill out over the mis"use" of astral and mental substances - laugh at how easy it is to start "braying".

Monitoring our thoughts and emotions by being the Master of them both is exactly what life is all about in the first place. If we cannot truly control our astral body and our mental body and make our CONSCIOUSNESS the MASTER of them both, then we cannot ever attain the title of SHAMAN or MASTER OF THE WISDOM. We are in our POWER when we make the CHOICES of which thoughts and emotions by which we live our lives.

Neither our astral body (for it has an elemental consciousness of its own which is also egged on by many differing kinds of entities residing within the astral realm) nor our mental body (it, too, has an elemental consciousness of its own which is also egged on by many differing kinds of entities residing upon the lower mental realm) are to be the CENTERS OF POWER in our Earth life, they are to be merely vehicles of expression whereby we SENSE life through them and their special attributes. Our CENTER OF POWER is in our higher MENTAL BODY - that part of our SOUL which resides within the CAUSAL REALM. It is through our higher MENTAL BODY, our INTUITIVE mind, that we EXPERIENCE and EXPRESS our DIVINE POWER.

An instinctual trait which we lost was the ability to COGNIZE - RECOGNIZE the "frequency" subtleties that are occurring within the astral realm. INSTINCT IS AN ASTRAL BODY FUNCTION and has nothing to do with mind. It is our greatest asset for KNOWING what is occurring around us in the etheric and astral realm - if we recognize it, honor it and ultimately use it correctly. The problem, however, is that from early childhood we have been programmed to dishonor our "gut" chakra sensations (instinct) and many have lost the ability to RECOGNIZE it as it is occurring daily in our lives. What has been lost is the ABILITY TO RECOGNIZE ? not the instinct itself.

Thank you Paps I will have to think about this for a bit and see how it impacts on me and my situation.

Does any of that have anything to do with the ego self?

(thats a real question by the way)

Yes HuggyBear. Call it the human mind or BODY OF SELF EGO

Ever heard of the STRING THEORY?

Imagine an orchestra is in front of us and we can see all the players (egos/people/minds) quite well as EACH and EVERY ONE OF THEM are playing their instruments. The conductor is waving his arms to and fro, pointing with his baton toward the violins while the other arm is keeping up a "different" beat for the cello's to follow. All the different sections within the orchestra, the wind instruments, the brass section, the many string instruments as well as the piano and the drums are playing their "notes" at DIFFERING counts to the beat YET all the while maintaining ONE PIECE OF MUSIC. While the strings are holding a note for two counts, the winds hold it for three and the percussionists carry it for four - yet all of them INITIALLY started their count "of that note" at the same time.

If we could see with our mind's eye each note being played and each instrument holding its own count to that note for the entire concerto, we'd see a cacophony of musical notes all over the place. We'd get dizzy from viewing this and would wonder how in the world we would be able to tell one note from the other and FROM WHICH INSTRUMENT did each note come. The first thing we would need to perform such a feat would be the ability to DISCERN which notes were emanating from which sections of the orchestra. We'd next need to DISCRIMINATE, one from the other, which of the instruments within those specific sections were emitting those particular notes. And, finally, we'd have to use extreme DISCRETION in choosing the notes we believed to be from the instrument we selected. If we used any of these three aspects incorrectly, we would be way off kilter within our viewing process and we'd throw ourselves further into the sea of notes - possibly to never gain our visual balance again.

These are the real "inner" aides to our current humanity and they are the ones in whom we should give more credence.

This analogy is what it is like for those who do have the ABILITY of discernment, discrimination and discretion in selecting which reality is the NOW reality - the notes being emitted from the instruments which are CURRENTLY being played rather than the notes which have been played but are still resonating within audience's memories. This blending of CURRENT notes and remembered notes is our mind's ability to not only hear the melody but to savor and save it for some period of TIME/SPACE.

thanks for that

its really intresting. someone was telling me the other day that they are trying to learn to switch the ego self off. Getting rid then of feelings of frustration, guilt, hurt etc because it is the ego self that causes them. Is this possible to do?

Sorry if thats a dumb question

HB your questions are valid and thought provoking for myself and others. You do not need an affirmation from me to realise that within inside yourself. Allow the positive emotions to emanate from yourself - your CENTRE OF POWER.

I have discovered that it is something I already have recognised within myself and find much truth and sense on how to live life in the ´real world´. I have been exploring it within past journeys and stories of my life and it has lead me to discover the String Theory and how this can describe emotions / egos / the mind.

There are many techniques for quietening the mind. Monitoring our thoughts and emotions by being the Master of them both is exactly what many forms of spirituality is about. It is best to find the pathway that suits you most - some find it within philosophy, atheism, Buddhism, Shamanism, Christianity, Paganism etc, but whilst doing so, it is important to maintain your own ABILITY of discernment, discrimination and discretion. I wished to say that first before suggesting any techniques / exercises that may help how a person responds to the mind ego and emotions.

Perhaps the mind/emotions could be considered a switch but I don´t think it is that cut and dry. The mind nor the emotions turn off, they are what makes us human and are always present - it is how we deal with them that matters. Think of the mind and emotions more as a muscle that you must strengthen, so that when situations arise that create strong feelings, waves of guilt, waves of resurfacing grief, you react creatively from having a stronger perspective/muscles, you have the knowledge, awareness, the instinct to deal with them.

The chakras are a good place to seek and find. Here is a link about the POWER SPOT chakra that may offer some guidence. The Navel Chakra

Buddhism speaks of ´binding the monkey´ that the mind is like a monkey moving rapidly all over the place and it helps to contemplate the monkey and be aware of it, so less swinging (emotions) takes over as clouds and waves in your life.
´Dispersed mind is also mind, just as waves rippling in water are also water. When mind has taken hold of mind, deluded mind becomes true mind.´ See ´The miracle of mindfulness´by Thich Nhat Hanh

As I said there are many other ways, best to find what works for you personally. The end goal is not ultimate answers, it is in peace within oneself and a conscious view of the reality of ego. Many people are not ready or willing to open those inner doorways. Which is why there is so much negativity in the world, negative emotions, thoughts and experiences - negative patterns keep people depressed or in doubt.

Used an analogy the other day which I remembered today - that experiencing emotions and how you react to them is like the Alexander Technique (AT) for the mind.

The basic theory behind AT is that people develop bad habits with posture and movement / locomotion through life. This results in pain and sometimes sickness. AT teaches a person to relearn how to move about and BE on a physical level.

I think this can be applied to the mind and emotions. We develop traits that can hold us back and we suffer pain / depression or can miss opportunities to experience joy and happiness in Life.

To much Sorrow aspect makes the clock tock more - not enjoy and experience positively the time we have with ourselves, family and friends. Its a form of mental management.

This looks fascinating. I'll read it all through at the weekend and think about it then.

Would be great to hear your thoughts CQ

The Alexander Technique sounds fasinating.

I also think being empathic can affect you in that way too.

would love to know your thoughts on that

Do you mean the NOW emotional effects of being empathic? And how that might be experienced/managed?

There is lots online about Alexander Techique that you could google - or I could find you some sites if you would like that?

I think i was thinking more of the NOW affects of being empathic. You were saying about the strings theory with the different instruments and and notes. Being empathic you would pick up the instruments and notes of others too wouldnt you?

(although i know you can G&P)

also, u mentioned the chakras earlier in the thread. Are there differences between cleansing and balancing? I use the visualisation using the flowers and the little cyrstal inside to cleanse. will this also balance?

I have no idea what you're on about Pap's but I just wanted to say hi.

And 'binding the monkey' - well thats a new way of putting it!

HB will respond later - been out and want to take my time with posting.

MT, my dear grasshopper, welcom to my lair With time I can show you the joy of binding your monkeytrousers - it has connections to the String Theory which is surely up your ally

also, i think the moon phases affect peoples emotions and feelings too, this month for exmple has been bad because of the influence of mercury. I think its harder for empaths then too although its declining now.

Do you know an Empath(s) HB?

Its not something I know a huge amount about. Have been reading more about it the last few days, but with regards to the String Theory, I feel that it is largely unexplored realm.

Brain waves (electromagnetic radiation) may resonate with another person´s like the stringed instrument orchestra analogy I posted earlier. Like a frequency which vibrates. Some of us may be more sensetive to these resonances. There seems to be a range of Empathic ´gifts´defined. Perhaps also considering the String Theory when a person is born or develops Empathic skills it is an example of unconventional techniques being utilised.

How an individual uses a tool varies remarkable. It reminds me of how many new electronic musical instruments are created - people don´t use the rule book and push the boundaries of what the machine was originally created and defined as.

There are many stories of mothers I have read who have it appears Emapthic connections to their children.

This is very interesting and I am still pondering...

Im empathic

which is why im so intrested in the affects of the string theory etc. Ive also found that moon phases etc affect me alot and that sometimes purley G&P alone isnt enough.

Great to see you on MF today

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Chat soon

Just wanted to say I haven't forgotten this thred and have ben thinking about it. I will contribut over the next week.

just to say im home again now paps so back on msn chat soon xxxx

What's an astral body?

The astral body pertains to energy - the most well known by name alone is the 6th sense and the aura. It relates to our senses / instincts / emotions (feelings) vs our physical body and mind.

On another level it can be utilised by those interested in astral travel often called the out-of-body experience. Whilst some spiritual paths see this is as dangerous, it is for those who have studied, experienced and worked in the realm of astral body and travel as healing, bonding and a cheap way to travel.

I know there is alot to read Ameriscot but the Astral body is talked about alot in the first post. The Astral realm is where heaven, God, other dimensions exist.

Here is some more info about the astral level - it is a perspective that I am still learning about with regards studying and practice of the to the string theory on a spiritual platform. A online-friend shared this and the other posts with lots of CAPITALS in it with me and now I share it with you all And I will go back to the couch and enjoy my cold, bleugh! As my friend says if this does not fit into your paradigms of truth then let it go with the wind.

In this SOLAR SYSTEM and upon this PLANET we live in a seven (7) dimensional universe. Now dimensions are not the same as directions. Our physical realm is a three (3) direction universe, i.e., length, width and height. Our SOLAR and PLANETARY SYSTEM are a seven (7) dimensional universe, i.e., frequency ranges manifesting first as REALMS and within these REALMS the frequency ranges diminish in "radius" (or also known as "ring-pass-not's") and these frequency ranges are known as PLANES. Within these REALMS and PLANES all manner of BEINGS, Beings and beings of CONSCIOUSNESS manifest themselves within their own "specific ring-pass-not frequencies".

All LIFE, no matter where upon the graded levels of CONSCIOUSNESS they are in their experiences, is nothing but ENERGY manifesting ITSELF in the many ring-pass-not's of frequency ranges. ALL LIFE IS ENERGY MANIFESTING ITSELF.

At the lowest range of frequencies we have the 3 directional physical REALM. This physical REALM, however, has seven (7) PLANES of ENERGY SUBSTANCE in which we live and breathe and have our BEING. These seven PLANES of energy manifestation are known as, from the slowest rate of frequency vibration, i.e., solid, liquid, gaseous, atomic, etheric atomic #3, etheric atomic #2 and etheric atomic #1. Our physical body exists in all of these seven ranges of frequencies even if many of our humanity cannot register these frequencies within their physical brains.

Our physical body is to register all the phenomenon here and relay this information back to our SOUL via the mechanism known as our brain. The brain is the physical organ specifically created to function as a repository of all this physical REALM information and then it is to process it in such a way so that our HIGHER MIND may know what is happening to ITS physical vehicle. When the physical body was created, it was designed to have its SIX (6) senses be the means THROUGH WHICH the physical REALM phenomenal information could be gathered. The physical body is merely a vehicle, a specific range of frequencies in which our consciousness can experience this PHYSICAL REALM. The more physically SENTIENT we are, the more accurate the information being relayed back to our HIGHER MIND. Each one of our physical senses, i.e., sight, hearing, smelling, tasting, touching and intuition were designed in such a way that they IN TOTAL UNISON could experience all the frequency ranges of our phyical REALM. Our physical body is a perfectly DIVINE VEHICLE through which our HIGHER MIND/SOUL manifests ISELF.

The next frequency range in which we live and breathe and have our BEING is known as the ASTRAL REALM. This realm as well has seven (7) PLANES of ENERGY SUBSTANCE and they, too, exhibit themselves in frequency ranges such as, i.e., solid, liquid, gaseous, atomic, etheric atomic #3, etheric atomic #2, and etheric atomic #1. Although I have named these frequency ranges as solid, liquid, gaseous, etc., they are not the same as our PHYSICAL REALM's solid, liquid, gaseous, etc. They are, however, these states to those entities and CONSCIOUSNESSES who dwell there upon.

These ASTRAL REALM frequency ranges are vibrating at higher frequencies and the 3 lower Astral planes are co-existant with 3 of our higher PHYSICAL REALM frequency ranges. This co-existant state in which our physical and astral body vehicles SENSE their existances is where most of humanity spend their lives. Some of us are not even aware of the differences and think they are "gifted" with special powers because they can see and hear upon the inner REALMS. If truth be known, however, all of us are "gifted" with these special SENTIENT powers, it's just that some of our humanity choose not to acknowledge what they see, hear, touch, etc., in these shared REALM frequency ranges.
These egos think they dreamt something or imagined it as a fanciful experience when in REALITY, they placed their consciousness within these shared REALM frequencies.

The other five (5) dimensional REALMS comprising our SOLAR SYSTEM are, i.e., mental, buddhic (also known as the CAUSAL or SOUL realm), anupadic, atmic and the ADIC (here is where our great LIFE WAVE OF MAN MONADS have THEIR BEING). The LIFE WAVE OF MAN is also known as the LIFE WAVE OF LIGHT BEARERS. THE LIFE WAVE OF MAN is but one of the great orders of COSMIC BEINGS known as the SEVEN CANDLES, i.e., THRONES, PRINCIPALITIES, DOMINIONS, SERAPHIM, CHERUBIM, ARCHANGELS/ANGELS and MAN who came to this seven dimensional SOLAR SYSTEM to experience and ENHANCE their BEINGNESS within this great SOLAR LOGOS' ring-pass-not of frequencies. All of these COSMIC ORDERS OF BEINGS came here to become more DIVINE in their individual natures and then to assist the next ORDER OF "lesser-experienced" BEINGS to become more DIVINE in their individual natures. Each ORDER OF BEINGS prepared the SUBSTANCES of all these REALMS (from the highest vibration down to the lowest) just so the next lesser-experienced BEINGS could appropriate these zillions of ranges of ENERGY (frequencies). Every ORDER OF BEINGS does double duty - first they experience, express and enjoy these zillions of ENERGY ranges in order to ENHANCE their own DIVINITY and co-incidentally as a second duty they condition these ENERGY ranges so that other less experience BEINGS can experience, express and enjoy these zillions of ENERGY (frequency) ranges.

hi jack sry

(((PAP)))
was just thinking about you proberbly as ive just finished the tenth insight of the celestine prophercie (sp?)

hope yourself dd and bump are well

Hey megandsoph!

Was just thinking of the 10 insight the other day - there was a thread about animal testing and I pondered posting about traditional medicine working alongside alternative, but the conversation did lead in that direction. Healing essentially being about working and breaking through emotional fear attached to life - especially the ones we don´t want to admit to or face. The idea that our thoughts, especially negative ones create illness.

Nice that you showed up cos it kinda relates to this thread ((((()))))

Bump, dd, dh and I are all very happy and sharing cold symptoms which are a rare occurence so cannot complain excessively! How are you doing? x

Hi again guys this looks interesting but not sure I can read it now. DH and I have decided to split up and have told the kids this weekend so too much on my mind.

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would you like a ´The coast of coromandel´thread? x