Sign of the times - Childrens behaviour

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I am a born again Christian, a mother of four and also a childminder of Five children from different backgrounds.

I have over a period of time read, listened and experienced the beaviour of children. Many are rude to their parents, answering back, shouting at their parents etc etc. not just the teenagers but children much younger.

Many parents are struggling to deal with their children. Some of the children have not even started school as yet. Take a look at the behaviour and childcare section and you will see what I mean!

I believe this has happened for various reasons. Could it be that children are not being discipline in SOME CASES and also a lot of people no longer are exposing their children to God. How are you going to deal with a challenging child without the help of the Lord and aslo discipline?

Can I hear from someone on this..

I dont think it is necessary for the rude comments.

I never said you had to be a chrisitan to be a good parent. I know parents who have good values and are not christians.

I also stated that I can pray for MY CHILDREN to be safe, therefore I dont need to WORRY about them. We all know that there is danger all around, I can have peace of mind when I Pray.

Thank you Mrs Cadwalldader for your comments. I am aware that everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Its not about teaching children church doctrine as stated, its about teaching them what is right. As a chrisitan I PERSONALLY get direction from the Lord and the Bible. NOt everyone is following what I do, I understand that. But I would never say you are not good parent.

I did not start this thread to offend anyone, that was not my intention. I did not say that just becuase you dont believe in God that you have less values. I was stating my views as a christian. Whatever I write its what I believe and do, and I am aware that not everyone feels as I do.

We all have challenges in one way or another and we all deal with our challenges differently.

The comments didn't seem very rude to me. Just different opinions and questions as to exactly what the OP meant. I too am curious to know which bits of the bible are considered useful in getting kids to behave. I've studied the bible, but can't think of any bits off hand that would be directly useful.

About those extracts from the bible. I usually laugh at attempts to excuse the bible on the grounds of mistranslation, but the "Suffer little children" does mean "allow little children" so that one IS ok. However many of the passages are pretty graphic so can't really be put down to misunderstanding.

As for killing the 'first born' Good point that some would be adult, but in fact you need only look around at the families you know to see that many would be babies or small children. So it would still be an atrocity and not a good moral example to set.

For what my opinion is worth I think the key is example and discipline. I don't mean being horrendously strict, but setting limits that you stick to so that they get the idea that there are lines they don't cross. That and letting them see how you do things yourself.

I am responding to this as a Chrisian?

Firstly I would take issue with the comment ?Let me explain years ago this country had so many christians who believed in God. Today many of the churches have closed down. What was considered wrong years aso has now become acceptable by many.? ?
actually I?m not sure this was true. Years ago there were a lot of people who went to church but that is not quite the same as really being a Christian and having a personal faith. Some of the people who went to church in the past did, but many went to church because that is what you did if you were respectable, or it was a power thing. And many of those ? a couple of generations ago ? were of the spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child variety of disciplinarian. There were plenty of scared children in Victorian Britain ? OK, there were some well behaved ones, but there was plenty of bad behaviour too.

I try to deal with behaviour by example, and by bringing my child up with strong ethical values. I teach her to respect others, to care for others, to take responsibility, to forgive readily, to try to see the other side in her falling-out with other people. To me the bits of the bible that help me do this are the bits of the gospels which lay out how to live.

I teach my child how to behave within a Christian framework but it is not exclusively Christian, or even exclusively religious. There are plenty of atheists out there who would bring their children up with the same values without the religious aspect.

Most children I meet are well behaved and polite. Occasionally they push boundaries but that is part of growing up.

I'd argue that in Days of Old, if a child misbehaved it was generally considered fine to beat them until they stopped. What may have changed is our attitude to this, thankfully.