Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,

[Justmerach]

Hi, I was following the “Do you believe in God thread” and it seems to have been closed. I read a post and wanted to reply to somebody who said that Jesus is not the Son of God. I just wanted to reply to them that why in Christianity in the scripture that we know that Jesus is the Son of God and explain why in my faith scripture supports that Jesus Christ is Only true Son of God.

Jesus is the Son of God but was also a prophet. He is also the redeemer to come as this post will explain.

Let me first say first in all three faiths we share much of the Old Testament and believe in the same God. I remember this topic right from my university days comparative studies between all three faiths.

I want to share a document about the Messiah prophecies about Jesus Christ to come that are in the Old Testament and commonly used online.

The Messiah prophecies have all be attached can be clicked on saved and enlarged. It comes in five images.

The word Christ and its Hebrew parallel means the anointed one which Christ is. Not added to that document above and to come to your attention-The Rod of Jesse in Isaiah 11 is also a prophecy of Jesus Christ to come. The Rod of Jesse/root of Jesse was the last rod for Jews and culminated with the Lord. Christians on this rod are his followers itself. God’s famous rods started with Aaron which placed which was placed in the arc of Covenant as a reminder and bore flowers as a promise of regeneration for the Jews. Jesus became as Christians our vine and we became him branches in the New Testament (John 15).

A photo of the Rod of Jesse from a church collection willl be attched in the next post.

It is Jesus the redeemer and heir to David who will redeem us all and the Jews to from exile-Jesus is from the offspring and roots of David (Revelation 22: 16). Some Jews believe that the Messiah prophecies are for David to come, but this is inaccurate and it is Jesus who will redeem them. "I will set up thy seed after thee (after King David), which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son (2 Samuel 7 12-13). God in this scripture also called David his servant and said that his Son was to come.

This scripture further points that Jesus Christ will be the one to redeem the Jewish people. Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, the Lord our righteousness Jeremiah (23: 1-6). David will return in the new Jerusalem (Hosea 3:4-5).

Jesus is also known as the Prince of Peace and more attributes which do not point to who is to come as being a mere mortal being and this is mentioned in (Isaiah 9:6). “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

God also confirms in the New Testament Jesus as his only Begeotteon beloved Son –“this is my Beloved only son who I am well pleased" (John 3:16 ). Then in Luke Jesus was asked to this question if was the Son of God and Jesus said that yes he is the Son of God (Luke 22:70). He does not lie and the God the Father simply does not lie as well.

The miracles and healing he gave as we all saw in the New Testament that Jesus Christ ministry gave are well known in the New Testament around 40 in number they were as recorded in the Bible and I saw too with my own eyes in church and in my life, the healing that he gave me. I saw a child who could not walk once an after a few times of healing work at church he started to walk again. This was a miracle of Jesus Christ in our era. It is Jesus Christ who primarily who approves the gifts of the Holy Spirit this as he is the head of the church who appoints these gifts and roles of ministry (Ephesians 4:11).

The Church Body which are made of human beings are the members of the church and Jesus is also the head of the Church and we are part of this body (Ephesians 1:22-23). He promised to send believers a comforter after his resurrection Christ as a Christian gave me the spoken comforter which is the Holy Spirit (John 4:11)? The comforter is the Holy Spirit you receive when you are baptised of water and spirit..

The Son of God is an expression which indentified Jesus of Nazareth as the being who has had an eternal relationship to his Father (Psalm 2:7 ) "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." Christ claimed to be the Son of God (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). This too makes clear that Jesus is the Son of God (John 5:18). Also in the New Testament the term the Son of God appears in the New Testament almost 50 times. God also confessed that Jesus was his son at his baptism and at the transfiguration (Matthew 3:16, 17; 17: 5). Jesus also said that he is the Son of God (John 4:15) Revelation (2:18) (John 20:31) (Matthew 4:3) (II Corinthians 1:19) (Luke 8:28), the Jewish Sanhedrin condemned Jesus for blasphemy (Matthew 26: 63-66); (Mark 14 :61).

Jesus also was eighty times called the Son of Man which means God and the Messiah for humans in the New Testament. In Psalm 80 he was also called the Son of Man and was to called the Son of Man throughout Ezekiel to.

Jesus came to life as a mortal divine being through an Immaculate Conception. Angel Gabriel told Jesus' mortal mother to be Mary that she would overpowered by the Holy Spirit and receive a child and that would be God's Son.

This story is found in the Gospels- (Luke 1:26-38)-" And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David". The book of Luke is considered a highly reliable historical source which I know nearly all my life and it is the word of God.

I think in some countries more signs of Christ and the Holy Spirit presence will convince more people that Jesus is the Son of God and that eternal life is near and they will a season at least a while and will stay like young cubs parked with a lion on grass with him.

More history confirming Jesus Christ life is the Dead Sea Scrolls-
The Dead Sea scrolls contain (Isaiah 53) prophecy which is about Jesus Christ life to come. These scrolls were found in caves south of Jericho in the Dead Sea are and contain Biblical evidence the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament. There are two scrolls Isaiah, one being complete. To our understanding of the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament times, and to a better understanding of Hebrew and Aramaic.

We have done the 1st resurrection of Christ and are waiting for the Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) which will happen in a twinkling of an eye (1 Corinthians 15:51-52) and then will come the 2nd judgement and second coming and judgement and then New Earth/Heaven.

We should be working in the field till he comes-"Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left." (Matthew 24:20).

I was informed about the website today called working preacher. Some commentary seem to agree that the overall message that can be taken away is that we should respect civil authority the process and pay what we owe to them. This writer seems to be in agreement with some warnings. May be you can find some information on Acts 5 on this website to.

1 Peter 2 is of note as well.-
"Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well."

https://www.workingpreacher.org/commentaries/revised-common-lectionary/ordinary-23/commentary-on-romans-138-14-2

https://www.workingpreacher.org/

If it was actually the word of god (which one?), it should be readily apparent and unquestionable that the scriptures could not have been created by men. And yet, the bible reads exactly like one would expect of a book written by people 2000 years ago, with all of the Iron Age sense of morality and lack of scientific understanding that aligns with that period of time.

I am not replying to this nonsense you don't know who you speak to online and I don't come on here in secret and not do this behaviour in the open. We have a different way of thinking and I mostly I have not agreed with yours.

You don’t have to tell me, obviously, though I’m fairly sure you mentioned being autistic earlier. It’s more than you seem to have some total blind spots in your thinking. You seem unable to understand the complete lack of rationality in failing to accept that Joseph Prince is a shyster on excellent third-party evidence from credible governmental sources, while being happy to accept a collection of Iron Age texts as literally true on no evidence whatsoever.

In your normal life forget religion for a minute and I didn’t click on the link to see someone’s finances. Do you rationally think someone can accurately determine online from one page to mark somebody as a con artist without studying the case as such and knowing all the relevant information.

Btw some sermons appear very creative and inspired. Also, there is book clubs in church where you read a book and review it with others. I saw that on a sermon sheet today and thought of people who may like this.

You think you can’t know about Joseph Prince without studying about him (even though it’s well publicised) but you don’t research the inaccuracies in the bible?

A Joseph Prince quote - “You are destined to reign in life. You are called by the Lord to be a success, to enjoy wealth, to enjoy health, and to enjoy a life of victory. It is not the Lord’s desire that you live a life of defeat, poverty, and failure.”

If that’s true, then Jesus – and all of His disciples except John – were terrible failures, since they were killed for their faith. They weren’t successful, wealthy, healthy, or victorious in the way Joseph Prince means.

I have seen probably two brief clips of Joseph Prince sermons on Sky. What I heard sounded uplifting. I am not an expert on him.

Also, I didn't click the link about the finances because I know a lot of information is used to determine somebody being a con artist in the real world and fraudster. I doubt if all the information could be found on one website. It does not seem how it is done, As mentioned my brother is a respected economist and I wonder if he could determine someone is a con artist from a page information I assume or so. Probably not.

I can write that the Book of Jeremiah says that God will prosper people and wants health for them but that devil likes to create obstacles for you. Spirituality is not about getting materially rich. Without seeing the rest and context it is hard to see how they meant this and their use of language. They may have said things around to give context to this. Being a Christian doesn't necessarily being rich in the outer world and that you will be a success in wordly values, but eternal life that you are looking towards and be spiritually healthy. Although, being a Christian doesn't mean that you can financially sound and charitable to others to.

Yes, I can hear of stories of ministers doing such in some places and people should be wary of such, but I have not come across these myself in real life.
In the UK the Anglican ministers for example usually get their houses paid. In some countries there is not this available or other help.

God has plans to as well prosper you in this world as spoken in Jeremiah 29.

"For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the LORD, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future".

You cannot equate trusting in your faith and following the law as the same.

In my opinion, a Christian is someone who leads the same life/teachings as jesus, peace be with him.
No alcohol, no sex before marriage, circumcision of men, not eating pork, only eating halal or kosher, washing before prayer, removing shoes before prayer. And he bowed down in prayer, says so in Matthew.

Jesus never said follow me and call it Christianity.
Jesus never said worship me..jesus never said he is God or part of God. I just cant fathom worshipping jesus and calling him God and son of God. It makes no sense that God can bear children, allow that child to go through torture and say yeah its for all our sins but only those who accept jesus as saviour and God as well. But the first commandment is thou shall have no other Gods than me. So, association God with jesus is a sin. And also , that people worship images and statues when another commandments says thou shall make no image of thee. So again, they have gone against that.
And when jesus said the father and I are one. Did it say in person? Did it say together as one being. Or what i take it as, is IN PURPOSE.
Jesus never came to change anything jesus never came to ask to be worshipped. He said i have only come to fulfill the will of HIM who sent me. Jesus didnt send himself. Jesus didnt pray to himself. Ive repeated this several times I know. But just cant understand it.

For me. GOD IS ONE. says so in both bible and quran.

Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. (KJV)

Evidence needed for the existence of any God.

There is none.

He’s not doing much to give people health and not let harm come to them. It’s seems a very one sided relationship. You worship and obey me but I’m still going to let babies die and thousands of people, including children die in famines and wars.

That’s why I asked if you had an intellectual disability, @Justmerach. You really seem to be struggling with a very simple situation.

No one is asking you to study JP’s accounts. What your brother does for a living is irrelevant. I have never suggested JP is a ‘fraud’ or ‘con artist’. He’s quite upfront about his self-founded church doing enormous funding drives, frequently raising millions in a day. His salary was in the public domain, as is the multi-billion property portfolio of his church. A quick look at his website, which is structured like any shopping website with a basket and checkout, will show that he’s a hard-nosed businessman doing the classic televangelist ‘prosperity gospel’ thing, but the only pockets he’s lining are his own. Requests for donations to ‘spread the gospel’ are everywhere. US and Canadian citizens are urged to leave wills in favour of his church —( where did JP start his only physical church outside Singapore? In a slum with no internet access so that people who can’t encounter his leather-jacketed online preaching might be able to access Christianity? Nope, in the Texas Bible Belt, where the pickings are big. ) ‘Free gifts’ of books about Christianity are available for a donation.

It’s really not that complicated to understand. There’s endless credible proof of exactly what a corrupt, cynical individual JP is, and why his glossy prosperity gospel version of Christianity is a cynical and enormously successful campaign of exploitation.

And yet the idea of doing a quick google makes you terribly uneasy. Your faith seems to rely on not checking your sources.

Yes, for a supposedly omnipotent, omniscient, benevolent creator, he’s doing a really poor job.

You single out something I do not have in a mocking manner and deride someone with your tone. I do not operate like yourself. I try and stick to my values. I keep away from online hunts on people. Autism is not an intellectual disability on its own btw and I do not have this an ID. It can sound ableist even if you don't intend to. Did I do well at school, btw I have a postgraduate MA and scored very decently in modules of interest.

We cannot just appear out of nowhere, my friend.

When I read the quran, I was taken aback by the scientific facts in the quran which were written ver 1400 years ago. It had to have come from God. They didnt have labs, computers , microscopes etc so how would anyone know this apart from God.

Its interesting to look up. Scientific facts in the quran.

She won’t check sources of the impossibility of a virgin birth or resurrection - blinkered!

Where are the recognised sources that say that the rescurrection is not possible. It is for you to bring the opposing sources and not myself. This is not how it works. This is not an essay.

Yup, it's maybe the first major crowdfunding ever. Religion that is. And these Mega pastors remind me of a great quip from Zsa Zsa Gabor: "I am a marvelous housekeeper. Every time I leave a man I keep his house.". I know that seems irrelevant, but it leads to a quote from that great man of the cloth, Archbishop Desmond Tutu:

"When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said “let us pray.” We closed our eyes. When we opened them, we had the Bible and they had the land."

Religious crowdfunding is not about a few spare bucks though. Nah, Churches wanted it all. The MEGA preachers want even more.

And that leads me to my reasoning about what Acts 5 is about. So fasten your seatbelt @Justmerach , I am about to give you loads to argue about, but just maybe something to think about also :-)

This is a brief summary of my reasoning. I can expand specifics on request, and provide evidence for my reasoning. I only use the Bible as evidence, and importantly, the order that scholars think it was written.

Background I suppose. Twenty plus years a born again non denominational "red letter" Christian. Heart failure, rush to hospital, machine that goes beep, held wife's hand and said sorry, told her I love her... said goodbye. And tell DD I love her too.

Survived that, just, and after weeks in ICU I got home and thought, I will read my Bible again. I will read acts again. Being a "red letter" Christian, I was never keen on the Paul stuff. but I will read it again.

Then acts 5. I thought why did they kill this couple and not forgive them? This really troubled me. I had lots of emails with a preacher I knew, looked up the web etc, but no answer that satisfied me.

And I remembered I had seen an article recently that I recalled said Acts had been written before the Gospels. But then I read about Markian priority, so with just the Bible really, I thought I will read Mark with an empty mind, see if the answer to Acts 5 is in there. I was wrong about the order they were written, I know that now, but not then. No matter.

I prefer LSV to KSV Justmerach. So any quotes are LSV.

The book of Mark, As I read it, saw it, and suddenly understood it.

Born. Baptism, tempted by Satan.

Mar 1:14-15 And after the delivering up of John, Jesus came to Galilee, proclaiming the good news of the Kingdom of God, and saying, "The time has been fulfilled, and the Kingdom of God has come near, convert and believe in the good news."

Convert to what ?

Mar 1:17 and Jesus said to them, "Come after Me, and I will make you to become fishers of men";

I have to jump ahead here, sort of, because I will insert my conclusions I reached AFTER doing all the thinking.

Fishers of mean. Yes, because they are a good catch.

To be continued. No AI here, so will do a part 2 for fear of wrong button...

I’ve never suggested autism was an intellectual disability! You said you didn’t want to talk about your diagnoses online, and I merely pointed out you’d freely discussed your autism and some neurological issues earlier up the thread.

Look, OP. I’m going to bow out here. It’s clear you can’t follow the reasoned arguments and contextualisations other posters are making, and that you’re not interested in trying, because you think it’s ‘disrespectful’ to use the brain you believe your creator gave you. I wish you all the best. I hope that you don’t encounter anyone in the context of your faith who exploits your obvious vulnerability and suggestibility, and your fixed idea that checking the credibility of sources is unchristian.

@Wapentake and @Justmerach

Part 2.

So fishers of men. Because men are a good catch. So Jesus picks his crew and off they go as itinerant preachers. Most likely std Judaism, There are clues that Jesus was well educated, and well off. So they travel about, doing tricks, get crowds, and pass the hat around.

But then as they wander about a bit, the story starts to change. They can make more money if they vary the story a bit ? Maybe too soon. But this:

Mar 6:7-11 and He calls near the Twelve, and He began to send them forth two by two, and He was giving them power over the unclean spirits, and He commanded them that they may take nothing for the way, except a staff only--no leather pouch, no bread, no brass in the girdle, but having been shod with sandals, and you may not put on two coats. And He said to them, "Whenever you may enter into a house, remain there until you may depart from there,and as many as may not receive you nor hear you, going out from there, shake off the dust that is under your feet for a testimony to them; truly I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Sodom or Gomorrah in [the] day of judgment than for that city."

He is basically telling them, dress poor and take nothing. if they don't put you up for free, curse them.

He is splitting his team up and sending them out to earn.

End of part 2.

@RedTagAlan well I am very glad you made it through your heart scare. I do know that Jesus often went for deprived people for his disciples. I can say that a number of Holy women who followed his mission where considered good donars to the ministry like Phoebe. They were good backers to the ministry and supported it financially.

I know people in lower income countries who have to pay for their church buildings and get no income from their instiution and they have jobs to do. I am not in the business of people scamming others, but this is the first I heard a dispute about this person here and don't like standing as a judge on someone and online to without it being investigated and having concrete evidence myself.

There are people generally and they may be not presenters who are considered very wealthy in monetary terms and have a faith and may be generous to.

I liked this quote recently
"Jesus often started with those who are marginalised and disadvantaged in some way. They are or can be Christ's missionary and can be Christ's missionaries to the world. Think of somebody poor in the spirit and holding the Cross who is dependent on Christ and this is great symbolism of the lamb Christ continuing to be being carried and with us today."

If you put Acts 5 here in the selection you will many thoughts from others about it if interested.

https://www.workingpreacher.org/bible-index

Part 3 @Wapentake @Justmerach

So Jesus and his crew are doing ok. But it's impacting on the established priests business.

Mar 8:28-31 And they answered, "John the Immerser, and others Elijah, but others one of the prophets." And He says to them, "And you--who do you say I am?" And Peter answering says to him, "You are the Christ." And He strictly charged them that they may tell no one about it, and began to teach them that it is necessary for the Son of Man to suffer many things, and to be rejected by the elders, and chief priests, and scribes, and to be killed, and to rise again after three days;

So now they start to look for prophecy. Can they make it fit as a defense ?

Get my gist ?

So basically, they were doing the old religious money making thing, to earn a living.

NOW ACTS 5 MAKES TOTAL SENSE.

And here comes Paul. He says.... ohh that's a good idea...

Now, look at the order of the NT authorship. This link I picked at random. But see, it's Paul.

Timeline of the Books of the New Testament (historyinthebible.com)

It's all Paul. Jesus was doing ok but got caught. He had invented some new ideas. Peter and the other Apostles were doing their commune thing in Acts. Give us all your money and join us, and Jesus will give you eternal life. Wait, you held money back ? Set an example.

Here endeth my reasoned theory, that is all based on the NT.

Religion seems to be a difficult topic for people to discuss at times. Asking someone when they give their views if they have an ID which most assume as lower than normal intelligence is considered by some as a dig etc when making your case. This is not the case at all and like you I am entitled to my opinion as well.
Seemingly you seem to like to validate a faith, that you may never find some answers you want if you don't trust.

@Justmerach I’m making an assumption that as a Bible believing Christian you attend a church. It’s Sunday today so I couldn’t catch up or post on this thread earlier because I was at church, are you going to church today?