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Justmerach · 19/01/2026 15:47

Hi, I was following the “Do you believe in God thread” and it seems to have been closed. I read a post and wanted to reply to somebody who said that Jesus is not the Son of God. I just wanted to reply to them that why in Christianity in the scripture that we know that Jesus is the Son of God and explain why in my faith scripture supports that Jesus Christ is Only true Son of God.

Jesus is the Son of God but was also a prophet. He is also the redeemer to come as this post will explain.

Let me first say first in all three faiths we share much of the Old Testament and believe in the same God. I remember this topic right from my university days comparative studies between all three faiths.

I want to share a document about the Messiah prophecies about Jesus Christ to come that are in the Old Testament and commonly used online.

The Messiah prophecies have all be attached can be clicked on saved and enlarged. It comes in five images.

The word Christ and its Hebrew parallel means the anointed one which Christ is. Not added to that document above and to come to your attention-The Rod of Jesse in Isaiah 11 is also a prophecy of Jesus Christ to come. The Rod of Jesse/root of Jesse was the last rod for Jews and culminated with the Lord. Christians on this rod are his followers itself. God’s famous rods started with Aaron which placed which was placed in the arc of Covenant as a reminder and bore flowers as a promise of regeneration for the Jews. Jesus became as Christians our vine and we became him branches in the New Testament (John 15).

A photo of the Rod of Jesse from a church collection willl be attched in the next post.

It is Jesus the redeemer and heir to David who will redeem us all and the Jews to from exile-Jesus is from the offspring and roots of David (Revelation 22: 16). Some Jews believe that the Messiah prophecies are for David to come, but this is inaccurate and it is Jesus who will redeem them. "I will set up thy seed after thee (after King David), which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son (2 Samuel 7 12-13). God in this scripture also called David his servant and said that his Son was to come.

This scripture further points that Jesus Christ will be the one to redeem the Jewish people. Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, the Lord our righteousness Jeremiah (23: 1-6). David will return in the new Jerusalem (Hosea 3:4-5).

Jesus is also known as the Prince of Peace and more attributes which do not point to who is to come as being a mere mortal being and this is mentioned in (Isaiah 9:6). “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

God also confirms in the New Testament Jesus as his only Begeotteon beloved Son –“this is my Beloved only son who I am well pleased" (John 3:16 ). Then in Luke Jesus was asked to this question if was the Son of God and Jesus said that yes he is the Son of God (Luke 22:70). He does not lie and the God the Father simply does not lie as well.

The miracles and healing he gave as we all saw in the New Testament that Jesus Christ ministry gave are well known in the New Testament around 40 in number they were as recorded in the Bible and I saw too with my own eyes in church and in my life, the healing that he gave me. I saw a child who could not walk once an after a few times of healing work at church he started to walk again. This was a miracle of Jesus Christ in our era. It is Jesus Christ who primarily who approves the gifts of the Holy Spirit this as he is the head of the church who appoints these gifts and roles of ministry (Ephesians 4:11).

The Church Body which are made of human beings are the members of the church and Jesus is also the head of the Church and we are part of this body (Ephesians 1:22-23). He promised to send believers a comforter after his resurrection Christ as a Christian gave me the spoken comforter which is the Holy Spirit (John 4:11)? The comforter is the Holy Spirit you receive when you are baptised of water and spirit..

The Son of God is an expression which indentified Jesus of Nazareth as the being who has had an eternal relationship to his Father (Psalm 2:7 ) "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." Christ claimed to be the Son of God (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). This too makes clear that Jesus is the Son of God (John 5:18). Also in the New Testament the term the Son of God appears in the New Testament almost 50 times. God also confessed that Jesus was his son at his baptism and at the transfiguration (Matthew 3:16, 17; 17: 5). Jesus also said that he is the Son of God (John 4:15) Revelation (2:18) (John 20:31) (Matthew 4:3) (II Corinthians 1:19) (Luke 8:28), the Jewish Sanhedrin condemned Jesus for blasphemy (Matthew 26: 63-66); (Mark 14 :61).

Jesus also was eighty times called the Son of Man which means God and the Messiah for humans in the New Testament. In Psalm 80 he was also called the Son of Man and was to called the Son of Man throughout Ezekiel to.

Jesus came to life as a mortal divine being through an Immaculate Conception. Angel Gabriel told Jesus' mortal mother to be Mary that she would overpowered by the Holy Spirit and receive a child and that would be God's Son.

This story is found in the Gospels- (Luke 1:26-38)-" And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David". The book of Luke is considered a highly reliable historical source which I know nearly all my life and it is the word of God.

I think in some countries more signs of Christ and the Holy Spirit presence will convince more people that Jesus is the Son of God and that eternal life is near and they will a season at least a while and will stay like young cubs parked with a lion on grass with him.

More history confirming Jesus Christ life is the Dead Sea Scrolls-
The Dead Sea scrolls contain (Isaiah 53) prophecy which is about Jesus Christ life to come. These scrolls were found in caves south of Jericho in the Dead Sea are and contain Biblical evidence the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament. There are two scrolls Isaiah, one being complete. To our understanding of the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament times, and to a better understanding of Hebrew and Aramaic.

We have done the 1st resurrection of Christ and are waiting for the Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) which will happen in a twinkling of an eye (1 Corinthians 15:51-52) and then will come the 2nd judgement and second coming and judgement and then New Earth/Heaven.

We should be working in the field till he comes-"Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left." (Matthew 24:20).

Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
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Justmerach · 11/02/2026 16:54

Parker231 · 11/02/2026 16:45

Cardiac cases can sometimes be resuscitated - their heart has stopped but they aren’t brain dead, although the longer the heart has stopped, the greater chance of brain damage. Once you are brain dead there is no going back and you cannot be resuscitated.
You can’t die and then wake up from a sleep

I proved what I was referring to about human beings waking up when sometimes rarely presumed dead at hospital etc

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Parker231 · 11/02/2026 18:13

Justmerach · 11/02/2026 16:54

I proved what I was referring to about human beings waking up when sometimes rarely presumed dead at hospital etc

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Which isn’t the same situation as Jesus got himself into - no major trauma centre to give cpr.

RedTagAlan · 11/02/2026 18:44

Justmerach · 11/02/2026 16:54

I proved what I was referring to about human beings waking up when sometimes rarely presumed dead at hospital etc

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After extensive CPR.

If you remember your first aid, CPR is to keep pumping the blood through the system, and especially the brain. The paper you posted was very specific that it only happened when it was not a type of arrest that could not be shocked, and it only happened when the heart stopping was not due to a cardiac event.

Now, I am not a medic of any sort, but even I could skim through that paper and get the gist of it.

No mention in the bible of CPR. Either on Jesus or Lazarus.

But what we do get in the NT is legion, an obvious multiple personality thing, being treated as demonic possession. And rubbing mud and spit in the eye to cure blindness.

If Jesus was skilled in CPR, it's a pity the bible authors never described it. What a life saver that would be. And am I allowed to mention penicillin ? That would have been handy.

GarlicBound · 11/02/2026 19:17

I don't believe any of these legends really happened as told - but have never found the crucifixion episode particularly unlikely.

Jesus is said to have been on the cross for six hours. During this time he experienced physical and emotional trauma. He was dehydrated. His blood would've been pooling into the legs, making it difficult for the shocked and damaged body to maintain circulation. He could easily have gone into a coma state.

Advanced yoga practitioners can slow their bodily processes to the point where they appear dead - some have been reported to breathe as little as once every three minutes. I'm not sure even they could do that while hanging from a couple of nails; it's more likely that the victim's normal physical functions slowed right down, as they do in a coma.

Could've been both, of course. Meditation/prayer and hypnosis can turn pain into discomfort, slow the heart and breathing, speed up wound healing, all sorts of things - mind over matter goes a long way.

The Romans normally left crucifixion victims on their crosses for days, even weeks or until they had rotted (they lined the Appian Way with 6,000 rotting corpses). It's very significant that Jesus was lifted down within six hours.

A convenient couple of wealthy supporters ensured the body was anointed with herbs and bandaged. Nobody was in there with them. The guards didn't examine their myrrh, an antiseptic, and aloes, also antiseptic and useful for wound healing, to see if this 75-pound (!) package included water, soup, or even a child to tend the unconscious hero in case he woke up.

If he did, he would have been dazed and possibly brain damaged. This doesn't matter, though, as he was only physically present for a few more weeks while his system adjusted. He may have died soon after, or could've been taken somewhere quiet to be looked after while he recovered as far as possible.

Clearly, I don't expect he spent six weeks materialising in unexpected places and performing non-stop miracles, nor that he was magicked into the sky by a supernatural being. These are the kind of narratives people will create when they've been through collective trauma and are building a shared mythology.

Parker231 · 11/02/2026 19:22

GarlicBound · 11/02/2026 19:17

I don't believe any of these legends really happened as told - but have never found the crucifixion episode particularly unlikely.

Jesus is said to have been on the cross for six hours. During this time he experienced physical and emotional trauma. He was dehydrated. His blood would've been pooling into the legs, making it difficult for the shocked and damaged body to maintain circulation. He could easily have gone into a coma state.

Advanced yoga practitioners can slow their bodily processes to the point where they appear dead - some have been reported to breathe as little as once every three minutes. I'm not sure even they could do that while hanging from a couple of nails; it's more likely that the victim's normal physical functions slowed right down, as they do in a coma.

Could've been both, of course. Meditation/prayer and hypnosis can turn pain into discomfort, slow the heart and breathing, speed up wound healing, all sorts of things - mind over matter goes a long way.

The Romans normally left crucifixion victims on their crosses for days, even weeks or until they had rotted (they lined the Appian Way with 6,000 rotting corpses). It's very significant that Jesus was lifted down within six hours.

A convenient couple of wealthy supporters ensured the body was anointed with herbs and bandaged. Nobody was in there with them. The guards didn't examine their myrrh, an antiseptic, and aloes, also antiseptic and useful for wound healing, to see if this 75-pound (!) package included water, soup, or even a child to tend the unconscious hero in case he woke up.

If he did, he would have been dazed and possibly brain damaged. This doesn't matter, though, as he was only physically present for a few more weeks while his system adjusted. He may have died soon after, or could've been taken somewhere quiet to be looked after while he recovered as far as possible.

Clearly, I don't expect he spent six weeks materialising in unexpected places and performing non-stop miracles, nor that he was magicked into the sky by a supernatural being. These are the kind of narratives people will create when they've been through collective trauma and are building a shared mythology.

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Six hours of blood pouring out of you without expert medical facilities, you would die pretty quickly. Your brain would have been starved of oxygen and your organs shut down.

GarlicBound · 11/02/2026 19:31

Parker231 · 11/02/2026 19:22

Six hours of blood pouring out of you without expert medical facilities, you would die pretty quickly. Your brain would have been starved of oxygen and your organs shut down.

Only if six hours of blood was pouring out! Wounds don't bleed for six hours. In a vertical body, not a whole lot will pour out anyway.

GarlicBound · 11/02/2026 19:39

I was sure the stabbing wasn't said to have occurred at the beginning of the ordeal. It wasn't. I'd thought it was to 'make sure he was dead' before being lifted down early, but I may have got that from a film. Deffo not bleeding for six hours, though.
https://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/library/bqa/id/233/when-was-jesus-stabbed-by-roman-soldier-john-1934.htm

When Was Jesus Stabbed by the Roman Soldier (John 19:34)?

The KJV leaves out the last part of Matthew 27:49, though it is present in ancient manuscripts. Others translations include it in another place. Which is right?

https://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/library/bqa/id/233/when-was-jesus-stabbed-by-roman-soldier-john-1934.htm

Justmerach · 11/02/2026 20:10

GarlicBound · 11/02/2026 19:39

I was sure the stabbing wasn't said to have occurred at the beginning of the ordeal. It wasn't. I'd thought it was to 'make sure he was dead' before being lifted down early, but I may have got that from a film. Deffo not bleeding for six hours, though.
https://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/library/bqa/id/233/when-was-jesus-stabbed-by-roman-soldier-john-1934.htm

It not easy to post now, but. I do think it was at the end to confirm mortal life extinct. They considered breaking his legs to but refrained. He was scourged before and this can cause shock to. The after event would be difficult as well and some think he was around for 40 days for the appearances and then ascended to Heaven and some think his spirit went to heaven between this time and came back down for the appearances before the ascenion. I hope he was safe.

I found out recently that he did his ministry in Zebulun and Naphtali where forced labour slavery was taking place and he saw harsh realities around him as the King of Jew he was in this area and probably wanted to make change.

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Parker231 · 11/02/2026 20:25

Found this article - sounds much more plausible than the resurrection myth.

Why has Jesus' body not been found?

The stolen body hypothesis posits that the body of Jesus Christ was stolen from his burial place. It theorises that his tomb was found empty not because he was resurrected, but because the body had been hidden somewhere else by the apostles or unknown persons.

GarlicBound · 11/02/2026 22:07

Parker231 · 11/02/2026 20:25

Found this article - sounds much more plausible than the resurrection myth.

Why has Jesus' body not been found?

The stolen body hypothesis posits that the body of Jesus Christ was stolen from his burial place. It theorises that his tomb was found empty not because he was resurrected, but because the body had been hidden somewhere else by the apostles or unknown persons.

✅ I spent an hour or so this afternoon imagining I was Nicodemus 😂 I'm a wealthy priest, politician and judge with a reputation as a peace broker and something of a prophet.

I've met Jesus for at least one intense discussion of 'everlasting life' and 'rebirth'. The renegade preacher's clearly intelligent, well educated and, as an Iron Age priest, I'm inclined to believe stories of the many wonders he performs. One colleague, Joseph, and I don't tell the other Sanhedrin we've become fans, because that would be career suicide.

It's part of my job to take the political temperature. As it's becoming clear my colleagues (and I) are going to sentence Jesus to death next time they get a chance, Joseph and I discuss what we can do to protect his chances of rebirth. Although we both have lovely tombs on the Mount of Olives, Joseph reckons nobody will know nor care if he renovates an old family tomb at Golgotha.

We get this cave fitted with quite a few comforts, suitable for a man of substance. There's a wide bier with a cupboard beneath, a carpet, an altar, a table, two chairs, a menorah and some lamps. Just to cover all bases, we have the workmen cut a large, concealed recess in the back wall. Unless you examine it closely, you can't tell it's covered by interlocking sheets of limestone.

Under the bier, we place a set of robes, shoes and a cloak. We pay the caretaker for a full maintenance package, to include fresh baked goods and water every morning. Once the trial plan's been set, we remind the Sanhedrin of the strength of public feeling about Jesus; and that he is a Jew, after all. He must be buried by sundown. I take this request to Pilate, who waves a dismissive hand, saying "So be it" (or "Whatever", if you like). I relay his decision to the generals.

Joseph and I have prepared a massive trunk of winding sheets, oils, creams and incense. This trunk is big enough to contain a goat (or a child). Under all the potions and linens, we pack enough food for several days. We supervise our servants carrying the trunk to the door of the new tomb some hours before sunset, then go back up the hill to observe the final moments of our preacher's current earthly life. Within ten minutes, they'll be laying his inert body on the bier.

... Next instalment: up to you! Can they revive him? Do they try, but fail? Does he walk out of there unaided or is his body stashed in the hidden cubby-hole? If so, by whom? 👀

Wapentake · 11/02/2026 22:25

GarlicBound · 11/02/2026 19:31

Only if six hours of blood was pouring out! Wounds don't bleed for six hours. In a vertical body, not a whole lot will pour out anyway.

Apparently what mostly kills you when you’re crucified is suffocation — the weight of your body dragging down on your extended arms makes it difficult to raise your ribcage enough to breathe. If you’re strong and healthy and haven’t died from shock or blood loss, you could last 24 hours. If you want your victims to die faster you crucify them with their arms above their heads, or you break their legs, so they can’t use their leg muscle to support their torso.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2004/apr/08/thisweekssciencequestions

How did crucifixion kill?

Suffocation, loss of body fluids and multiple organ failure. It wasn't pleasant.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2004/apr/08/thisweekssciencequestions

Wapentake · 11/02/2026 22:33

GarlicBound · 11/02/2026 22:07

✅ I spent an hour or so this afternoon imagining I was Nicodemus 😂 I'm a wealthy priest, politician and judge with a reputation as a peace broker and something of a prophet.

I've met Jesus for at least one intense discussion of 'everlasting life' and 'rebirth'. The renegade preacher's clearly intelligent, well educated and, as an Iron Age priest, I'm inclined to believe stories of the many wonders he performs. One colleague, Joseph, and I don't tell the other Sanhedrin we've become fans, because that would be career suicide.

It's part of my job to take the political temperature. As it's becoming clear my colleagues (and I) are going to sentence Jesus to death next time they get a chance, Joseph and I discuss what we can do to protect his chances of rebirth. Although we both have lovely tombs on the Mount of Olives, Joseph reckons nobody will know nor care if he renovates an old family tomb at Golgotha.

We get this cave fitted with quite a few comforts, suitable for a man of substance. There's a wide bier with a cupboard beneath, a carpet, an altar, a table, two chairs, a menorah and some lamps. Just to cover all bases, we have the workmen cut a large, concealed recess in the back wall. Unless you examine it closely, you can't tell it's covered by interlocking sheets of limestone.

Under the bier, we place a set of robes, shoes and a cloak. We pay the caretaker for a full maintenance package, to include fresh baked goods and water every morning. Once the trial plan's been set, we remind the Sanhedrin of the strength of public feeling about Jesus; and that he is a Jew, after all. He must be buried by sundown. I take this request to Pilate, who waves a dismissive hand, saying "So be it" (or "Whatever", if you like). I relay his decision to the generals.

Joseph and I have prepared a massive trunk of winding sheets, oils, creams and incense. This trunk is big enough to contain a goat (or a child). Under all the potions and linens, we pack enough food for several days. We supervise our servants carrying the trunk to the door of the new tomb some hours before sunset, then go back up the hill to observe the final moments of our preacher's current earthly life. Within ten minutes, they'll be laying his inert body on the bier.

... Next instalment: up to you! Can they revive him? Do they try, but fail? Does he walk out of there unaided or is his body stashed in the hidden cubby-hole? If so, by whom? 👀

Too tired to continue it, but I’m loving the tale of wily Nicodemus. (Especially the mysterious child, or possibly goat. I have an uncooperative 13 year old who is such a drama queen that anyone sharing a tomb with him would insist on rising from the dead after about twenty minutes…)

Justmerach · 11/02/2026 22:55

This in Revelation (1 :14-15)-

"His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace"

Christ is described to return in Revelations looking as above the description. What Christ looks like doesn' of course matter. White hair though is meant to be a sign of divinity and holiness and its wool. Christ will be clothed in rament as well. He has been gone some time. It has been a very long time since then, but Christ is ageless as well and as pure as the day to be able to carry our wrong doings and to heal some of us.
I think some people grew up with him and then went over with his age chronological and now may be elderly and think of him like still he was, he will have only graced more.
Christ can deal with spiritual evil to a role more typically assumed be handled by his father, but he does this today as well with some people and will take the least harm approach, but is about justice as well He is the one who gives people their gifts of the Holy Spirit and some are given them to cope with protection and discerment as well.

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RedTagAlan · 12/02/2026 01:42

We can throw ossuaries into the mix as well.

As most posters here will know, the Tombs of that era and place were not permanent. They were places for the body to rot, the bones later being put in an ossuary, or bone box, for storage in a catacombs.

And we know this, because we have some. This article from 2012.

Tomb exploration reveals first archaeological evidence of Christianity from the time of Jesus - ScienceBlog.com

This Prof James D. Tabor, mentioned in the article has lots online about it. I recall he takes a pretty firm Jewish position. That this Jesus was not the messiah as predicted.

Personally, I think it's suspicious that in so many of the NT accounts the people did not recognize Jesus. And of course why was he "taken up", instead of hanging about for a few decades, or centuries, or millenia.

Tomb exploration reveals first archaeological evidence of Christianity from the time of Jesus

The archaeological examination by robotic camera of an intact first century tomb in Jerusalem has revealed a set of limestone Jewish ossuaries or "bone

https://scienceblog.com/tomb-exploration-reveals-first-archaeological-evidence-of-christianity-from-the-time-of-jesus/

GarlicBound · 12/02/2026 02:36

Oh, interesting find, @RedTagAlan! Thanks.

Yes, it's funny how often the post-resurrection saviour wasn't recognised at first. After losing someone, it's usual to keep seeing them in strangers. The complete opposite seems to happen here, with his closest friends seeing him as a stranger. It couldn't possibly be that ... he was?!

GarlicBound · 12/02/2026 03:02

The ossuaries are a can of worms 😁 Not going to keep following these long & technical trails but, in essence, it seems that: they exist; at least some of them do come from the time & place stated; at least some of the inscriptions are forged or undateable.
https://bibleinterp.arizona.edu/articles/fle368021

Glad I'm not a biblical archaeologist. I hadn't heard about these before, and I do love a history mystery - as long as it's not my job to solve it.

The Ossuary of James the Brother of Jesus: From Trial to Truth? | Bible Interp

https://bibleinterp.arizona.edu/articles/fle368021

RedTagAlan · 12/02/2026 03:30

GarlicBound · 12/02/2026 03:02

The ossuaries are a can of worms 😁 Not going to keep following these long & technical trails but, in essence, it seems that: they exist; at least some of them do come from the time & place stated; at least some of the inscriptions are forged or undateable.
https://bibleinterp.arizona.edu/articles/fle368021

Glad I'm not a biblical archaeologist. I hadn't heard about these before, and I do love a history mystery - as long as it's not my job to solve it.

Can of worms for sure. Forgeries from antiquity and all that. Add to that the very real risk to the whole of Christianity if the bones were found, or were found.

This James Tabor is an interesting biblical academic. Did have his own youtube channel etc, Not sure about now because YT banned where I am.

From Mark though :

"Mar 16:4 And having looked, they see that the stone has been rolled away--for it was very great,

Mar 16:5 and having entered into the tomb, they saw a young man sitting on the right hand, clothed in a long white robe, and they were amazed.

Mar 16:6 And he says to them, "Do not be amazed, you seek Jesus the Nazarene, the crucified [One]: He rose--He is not here; behold the place where they laid Him!

Mar 16:7 And go, say to His disciples and Peter that He goes before you to Galilee; there you will see Him, as He said to you."

Mar 16:8 And having come forth quickly, they fled from the tomb, and trembling and amazement had seized them, and they said to no one anything, for they were afraid. [["

And that was the end. The earliest surviving manuscripts ended there. Mark 16:9-20 was added later.

And for some reason everyone is "amazed", despite seeing this guy doing miracles and HIM telling them XYZ, they are always amazed.

Incidentally, that's why Acts 5 strikes me odd. Because when the couple are struck down dead, the apostles don't bat an eyelid. Yet all through the gospels, they keep being "amazed".

RedTagAlan · 12/02/2026 03:51

@GarlicBound

Now after what @Justmerach is saying about CPR, I am even more convinced (if that is possible), that Acts 5 is even odder and blows the whole thing apart. Because the Apostles sat there, watched this couple struck down dead, AND DID NOT DO CPR !

They just dragged the bodies out and buried them in the garden.

GarlicBound · 12/02/2026 03:57

RedTagAlan · 12/02/2026 03:51

@GarlicBound

Now after what @Justmerach is saying about CPR, I am even more convinced (if that is possible), that Acts 5 is even odder and blows the whole thing apart. Because the Apostles sat there, watched this couple struck down dead, AND DID NOT DO CPR !

They just dragged the bodies out and buried them in the garden.

😂👏👏

Mydoglovescheese · 12/02/2026 08:19

Justmerach · 11/02/2026 20:10

It not easy to post now, but. I do think it was at the end to confirm mortal life extinct. They considered breaking his legs to but refrained. He was scourged before and this can cause shock to. The after event would be difficult as well and some think he was around for 40 days for the appearances and then ascended to Heaven and some think his spirit went to heaven between this time and came back down for the appearances before the ascenion. I hope he was safe.

I found out recently that he did his ministry in Zebulun and Naphtali where forced labour slavery was taking place and he saw harsh realities around him as the King of Jew he was in this area and probably wanted to make change.

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@Justmerach You do know that the title King of the Jews was deeply ironic and mocking and attributed to Jesus by his enemies? According to your scriptures Jesus was an itinerant peasant preacher, not a royal personage travelling around his kingdom.

Justmerach · 12/02/2026 09:10

Mydoglovescheese · 12/02/2026 08:19

@Justmerach You do know that the title King of the Jews was deeply ironic and mocking and attributed to Jesus by his enemies? According to your scriptures Jesus was an itinerant peasant preacher, not a royal personage travelling around his kingdom.

It was being used wrong.. Christ is known by multiple names and that is one of them. May be the others didn't see it, but they were wrong. It has been reclaimed.

Matthew 2:2
"Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

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Wapentake · 12/02/2026 09:17

Justmerach · 12/02/2026 09:10

It was being used wrong.. Christ is known by multiple names and that is one of them. May be the others didn't see it, but they were wrong. It has been reclaimed.

Matthew 2:2
"Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

Who is wrong?

Justmerach · 12/02/2026 09:25

Wapentake · 12/02/2026 09:17

Who is wrong?

I have wrote what I thought. If Jesus was being mocked with it, they were wrong to do so.

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Wapentake · 12/02/2026 09:38

Justmerach · 12/02/2026 09:25

I have wrote what I thought. If Jesus was being mocked with it, they were wrong to do so.

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But of course he was being mocked with it. I mean, he was being executed for sedition against the Roman Empire for claiming to be the Messiah or King of the Jews, which the Roman authorities would have seen not as a supernatural or spiritual claim but as a threat of political rebellion against Roman rule, centred on a dangerous, charismatic Jewish figure with growing support.

And if you look at the number of fairly significant Jewish rebellions in the region at around that time, it was a pretty well-grounded fear. Passover was also a dangerous time in terms of ideas of Jewish pride/desire for self-determination.

So executing this itinerant preacher with the big claims under the label ‘King of the Jews’ wasn’t just mockery but a political warning. This is what we do to anyone who threatens revolt, or who might act as an inadvertent flashpoint for rebellion.

Parker231 · 12/02/2026 11:13

You can’t trust the accuracy of the gospels as they aren’t actual biographies but works of mythology

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