Why are Anglican babies Christened, and Catholic babies Baptised?

[LynetteScavo]

What's the diffence, if any?

and on your indulgences

Oh FGS, no I don't mean what any of you have said. I'm talking about my own experience. So don't go into a panic.

I really don't get the fact that you ask dead people to intercede on your behalf, and why only the saints & Mary?

I always think of purgatory as a waiting room with beige carpet and old copies of the Readers' Digest.

To simplify that Cargirl. If you needed something from say...your father. Who would you ask to intercede? Not a stranger but someone closest to him..correct?

wehaveallbeenthere - you mean you did something and the church kicked you out & they have told you there is no way back to God?

Their bodies died, their souls didn't. Mary even got to keep hers.

combustiblepumkin....lol, no it's more like the waiting room for the most horrible surgery you can imagine and there is no anesthetic.

Well not necessarily only the saints and Mary. But they are believed to be in heaven, and in a state of grace.

In the creed we say (Anglicans and RCs, and whoever else) "I believe in the Communion of Saints", which means we are part of the one body of Christ whether we are living or dead, so it makes sense to ask those who are dead as well as those who are living to pray for us.

wehaveallbeenthere - that is AWFUL! I was told I was going to hell once for something I'd done, it put me off going to church for YEARS. I believed I couldn't be forgiven. (Why should I think I was so special that I COULDN'T be saved? )

Cargirl, I mean that when I was a little girl...I asked my mother how I would know the devil if he came to see me.
Would he be a flaming being with a pitchfork, horns and just horrible to behold?
She said, "he would show up as something or someone you would welcome". "He would intelligently lead you astray and you would joyfully follow along". "You probably wouldn't know it until it was too late." She was right.

Where does it talk about asking for the deceased from this world to interceed for you in the bible?

What happens in purgatory is it just a waiting place until the 2nd coming or something else?

MaryBS, it is awful but think about it. No anesthetic, no knowing when it is going to be over or that you will come out of it. That is my idea of purgatory. I think it is a pretty accurate description.

wehaveallbeenthere. Yes we probably all meet with the devil every day, but please do not believe that there is no way for you to be in a right relationship with God. Nothing accept grieving the Holy Spirit is unforgivable.

Well, that is the big difference between Roman Catholics and many other Christians. We have things which are extra-biblical as it were. No idea if it's in the bible or not (suspect not), but it is in the teaching of the RC church.

But it is asking people who are in communion with God to pray for you essentially. Rather than just people who are still alive.

I am in the middle of cooking tea but you are all really helping me understand more about catholicism. I will add on more questions as they crop up if that's okay?

Wehaveallbeenthere - she could also have added that the devil has no control over us, as he has been defeated, and is just lurking around causing trouble. As someone who is always wandering off in the wrong direction, I can tell you that at any time, we can walk away from the devil, and we have a Heavenly father who believes in second, third, and ninety-nineth chances, who will welcome us back with open arms and no questions asked. We have nothing to be scared of but fear itself and perfect love casts that out.

DD and I are CofE - we were both Baptised.

But DH is a Baptist and they Dedicate and then if they take the big bath, that's the Baptism.

CarGirl, Thank you for that. Trust me on this. I've been back to my church...right after and several times throughout the years. Rules are rules. This is the place that I grew up...where all my family (not just mother and father and brothers and sister but cousins, uncles, I mean family) put their names in the logs. You know the logs that all the RCC keeps.
I can go in. I can listen to the mass. I just can't follow up now with my children because of it. I've talked to the priest.
The devil I encountered did a complete job on my being thrown out. There isn't anything I can do about it. I can join another religion...but I cannot belong to my religion. Not ever again.

Revelation 8:3-4 refers to the prayers of the saints being offered up before God. There may be others. Before the RCC declares a particular person a saint, miracles of healing must be attributed to them after their death, whereby it is believed the person is healed on the direct intercession of the "saint-to-be".

Purgatory is a place of waiting, of healing, where a soul is separated from God, but only temporarily, until purged of sin.

At the moment I think the purgatory thing is not biblical. I believe all those who have already died are in Hades (which is not hell) but are unaware. So in the 2nd coming they will be given up out of Hades and judges but to them it will be as if no time has passed IYSWIM. It's a subject I want to read more about though.

I do wonder if purgatory is the name the RC put on what is referred to as Hades in the old testament.

wehaveallbeenthere, I used to be RC too, but no-one THERE ever told me I was beyond redemption. I became an Anglican a few years ago, and talked through my fears, and through prayer and I guess, counselling by my priest, I was able to see I just needed to ask for forgiveness and I would be forgiven. So that is what I did, and had an overwhelming feeling that God was saying to me "At last! I thought you'd NEVER ask!"

Because the churches like to brainwash them young. HTH.

Notquitegrownup, Yes, I don't blame the devil ultimately. It was my decision. Yes, don't get me wrong...I've since been tempted to do wrong in a lot of other areas but nothing since has been like that.
Maybe if I didn't "believe" all the things I had been taught. Maybe if I had been born later so the "rules" weren't as strict. Maybe if I had known a different parish...lots of maybes. It is what it is.
This was almost 30 some years ago. I've since given up trying to get back into my church. My only hope is that when I die God will review my life and judge me.