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In your opinion which is the gentlest religion

161 replies

delilabell · 20/06/2024 11:26

I mean as in kindest / gentlest?
I was looking at janism and the Quakers and thought they both seem so "nice".
So which would you say is the gentlest religion and why?

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Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 21/06/2024 18:13

Velicirapitor · 21/06/2024 11:22

Atheism.

Nah, agnosticism. I like to hedge my bets😂

CurlewKate · 21/06/2024 18:28

@AppleStrudel23 "You can't disprove God or a higher power, no one can. So how can you say it's a fact"

Well, you can't disprove anything. So technically nothing is a "fact". But there is no evidence for the existence of god or a higher power, so for me he doesn't exist. And will continue not to exist until such time as new evidence emerges.

Sorciere1 · 21/06/2024 18:34

Bignanna · 21/06/2024 16:10

What can Jains eat?

They are lacto-vegetarians so :leafy greens, vegetables (not root ones( nuts, beans, dairy. . Though many young Jains are vegan. here is a nice blog from a young modern Jain to discuss their diet + recipes. I've followed about an 90% vegan diet for 30 years. Apart from the ethics, the health benefits are huge too.
Pinki's Palate Jain recipe blog

Jain Diet

When I tell people about my Jain diet, the reaction I almost always get is: “Well what in the world do you eat!?” That is why, my friends, I have this blog. The Jain diet, while initial…

https://pinkispalate.com/jainism/jain-diet/

Funnywonder · 21/06/2024 18:39

I notice I'm getting jumped on a bit here. Fair enough. Sorry, it was a flippant, ill judged remark. The thread came up on my active list and I didn't notice it was in the Philosophy/Religion topic.

Bignanna · 21/06/2024 18:51

pelargoniumsarepopping · 21/06/2024 17:58

As a community they really enjoy food, experiment with a lot of different cuisines and get really creative with substitutions (unripe banana for root veg etc). I had my first burrito bowl in a Jain friend's house! South Asian vegetarian food is also extremely diverse - different kinds of rice, millet, chickpea flour, tapioca and fresh veg dishes and fermented foods you don't really get in restaurants in the UK. There is a lot of protein deficiency though

Wondered about the protein lacking. Perhaps they add protein supplements to milk. Must be a nightmare to plan the weekly meals.

Karmakamelion · 21/06/2024 18:58

CurlewKate · 21/06/2024 18:12

"Hinduism is wonderfully kind and peaceful when practised properly"
Hmm. Have you looked into the caste system? As the comedian Ahir Shah says-don't be taken in by the elephants.

And don't jains Sikhs and Muslims have the caste system. Its a social system NOT a religious one. Pakistani and Bangladeshi Muslims both have a caste system no matter how much they deny it. Sikhs have different gurdwaras for different castes..

cupcaske123 · 21/06/2024 19:14

RoobarbAndMustard · 21/06/2024 17:33

As in so many religions periods and childbirth are considered unclean.

Yes it seems common. I read that Jains believe that menstruation kills micro organisms and therefore makes you impure. It stops women from carrying out certain things. I even read that women can't go to the kitchen but maybe that's wrong.

twentysevendresses · 21/06/2024 19:14

Humanism - the three basic humanist ideas are that every human should be treated with respect, be able to choose what they believe and think based off reason, and equality to all people.

It's a very freeing and humbling concept, knowing that 'this is all we have...just one shot at getting it right!'

UtterlyOtterly · 21/06/2024 21:57

twentysevendresses

I agree about Humanism. Knowing there is only one chance at this life and believing that you do good because that is the right thing to do for other humans rather than to please a god or some such idea is wonderfully freeing.

Their motto "Think for yourself, act for everyone" sums it up for me.

I have Pagan friends who are very jolly and peace loving. Very successful careers in professions like education and law, but a deep reverence for the earth.

Devonbabs · 21/06/2024 22:22

CurlewKate · 21/06/2024 18:28

@AppleStrudel23 "You can't disprove God or a higher power, no one can. So how can you say it's a fact"

Well, you can't disprove anything. So technically nothing is a "fact". But there is no evidence for the existence of god or a higher power, so for me he doesn't exist. And will continue not to exist until such time as new evidence emerges.

But for some reality is not confined to that defined by scientific methodology., that’s simply one way of defining reality (albeit, currently, the dominant one)

Devonbabs · 21/06/2024 22:26

UtterlyOtterly · 21/06/2024 21:57

twentysevendresses

I agree about Humanism. Knowing there is only one chance at this life and believing that you do good because that is the right thing to do for other humans rather than to please a god or some such idea is wonderfully freeing.

Their motto "Think for yourself, act for everyone" sums it up for me.

I have Pagan friends who are very jolly and peace loving. Very successful careers in professions like education and law, but a deep reverence for the earth.

I would think most people of any religion do good things because it’s the right thing to do., what is “right” is subjective and often decided by the prevailing philosophy in the relevant culture

Most people find their beliefs freeing and comforting. I have found many humanists to be very confrontational and militant in their contact with religion,

which types of pagans are we discussing? neo pagans?

Dumpsterfire · 21/06/2024 22:27

IWantToBeASleepingCat · 21/06/2024 11:56

Spiritual.
My Spiritualist Church is amazing.
Very friendly and kind.
I am CofE.. but the church became very " gossipy" and playing top trumps.
I love the mediumship demonstrations.

Come on now, pick a side, you can't be both.

Devonbabs · 21/06/2024 22:36

Dumpsterfire · 21/06/2024 22:27

Come on now, pick a side, you can't be both.

Actually is possible to be both I’m baptised into the Cof E, also a practicing occultist. I would quite happily accept communion in a Cof E church. I wo you of see any of it as incompatible

Devonbabs · 21/06/2024 22:37

Obviously didn’t include many of the atheists on Mumsnet in their sample

caringcarer · 21/06/2024 22:37

IncognitoUsername · 20/06/2024 12:01

Sikhism has very gentle principles.

I agree with this.

tillyandmilly · 21/06/2024 22:38

Buddhism - my husband is never- shows any anger and is a very calm and peaceful man because of it !

Kendodd · 21/06/2024 22:45

Devonbabs · 21/06/2024 22:36

Actually is possible to be both I’m baptised into the Cof E, also a practicing occultist. I would quite happily accept communion in a Cof E church. I wo you of see any of it as incompatible

what do occultists do?

Dumpsterfire · 21/06/2024 22:45

Devonbabs · 21/06/2024 22:36

Actually is possible to be both I’m baptised into the Cof E, also a practicing occultist. I would quite happily accept communion in a Cof E church. I wo you of see any of it as incompatible

It really isn't.

IntriguingFactJumble · 21/06/2024 22:47

A long time ago I read some Sufi tales and was struck by their POV, especially a 'good luck/bad luck - could be either' one. I think they were Mullah Nasrudin stories.

Blackcats7 · 21/06/2024 22:50

delilabell · 21/06/2024 16:03

@isittheholidaysyet that's an interesting point that I was thinking about actually
So for me it's important not to discriminate against anyone eg gay etc. Looking after people eg poorer, homeless. That's the kindness part.
Gentle, hmm. For me not money orientated , not violent.

If you know what your values are why do you need a religion to follow? Morals aren’t dependent on religion. Can’t you just make your own choices to live a good life treating others kindly? What do you expect to get out of being a buddhist/ christian/ whatever? Is it just for company and social support?

Puzzlesandpajamas · 21/06/2024 22:50

Can I put a vote in for Unitarian Universalists? Such supportive and gentle communities. I'm not sure they are everywhere in the UK but incredibly
Active in a number of other places. In my experience they are understanding, supportive and very welcoming,

Lemonchord · 21/06/2024 22:54

I met some Ramakrishna monks many years ago at à a placé called the Vedanta Centre. They told us that their religion is essentially to embrace all religions and seemed pretty peaceful. I think that George Harrison used to go there. Saying that, there only seemed to be men there.

I think paganism and humanists probably win...

BobbyBiscuits · 21/06/2024 22:56

Druidism.
I had a friend at school who was a druid. Her family were really hippy, but very kind seeming. I did a bit of study on it and it seems really nice tbh.
I explored Buddhism and the principles are really kind. But you have to forgo a lot of things people think are pleasurable so..? Also obviously a lot of countries with majority Buddhism have far from great humanitarian records.

ErrolTheDragon · 22/06/2024 12:41

But you have to forgo a lot of things people think are pleasurable

Do you? I didn't think it was, fundamentally, all that prescriptive.

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