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In your opinion which is the gentlest religion

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delilabell · 20/06/2024 11:26

I mean as in kindest / gentlest?
I was looking at janism and the Quakers and thought they both seem so "nice".
So which would you say is the gentlest religion and why?

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siameselife · 21/06/2024 16:09

Talking about Buddhists. Had a family member live in an area with very difficult multi faith relationships and she noted that the Buddhists were particularly violent, which surprised me at the time because I thought it was a very chill religion.

Bignanna · 21/06/2024 16:10

Sorciere1 · 21/06/2024 11:52

Hmm I've practiced Buddhism for years and Japan the home of Buddhism and Shinto were very militaristic.
Jains in the West are great. I spent time with them. Quakers too. I'd say being a Pacifist and promoting Veganism are the kindest, gentlest things . Jains do this, Quakers a close second.
Jain temples in the UK

What can Jains eat?

Buttermilky · 21/06/2024 16:10

BillStickersWillBeProsocuted · 21/06/2024 11:26

The type of people who love to say things like "I'm just stating facts" and "I tell it like it is" are rarley kind!

There was no need for the comment that other people beliefs are fairytales, and it was in no way invited - that's what makes it unkind. And I say that as a fairly staunch atheist!

Well said. My ex was an atheist and he was more like you. Very respectful and tolerant. We got along fine despite our different beliefs.

I was talking to a guy once who is agnostic and he is the type to say offensive things for no reason like calling my belief fairytales right off the bat . I immediately cut him off.

ErrolTheDragon · 21/06/2024 16:12

siameselife · 21/06/2024 16:09

Talking about Buddhists. Had a family member live in an area with very difficult multi faith relationships and she noted that the Buddhists were particularly violent, which surprised me at the time because I thought it was a very chill religion.

Most religions seem to make tribalism worse and more ingrained. It's not necessarily down to the teachings of the religion (though it may be in some cases) - it's more that it ingrains and strengthens the 'us v them' mentality.

Screamingabdabz · 21/06/2024 16:19

Devonbabs · 21/06/2024 11:28

I think there are many religions which have people in them which are both gentle and kind and also people who are not. Religious doctrines are often open to interpretation.

I would suggest the Cathars were very gentle and kind. Other Christian’s who decided to “kill them all, God will know his own” less so.

You can be gentle and kind within nearly every religion by living in accordance with their rules. Equally many people interpret those same rules to justify pure evil.

I agree with this. The most gentle and lovely people I’ve ever met were Sikhs, Hindus and Muslims. But I suspect that comes from a common cultural background rather than the tenants of religion.

I’m a Christian and while I know lots of kind hearted folks in my church, the organised ‘religion’ is hierarchical, patriarchal, snobby and sometimes misogynist with a shameful history of shielding child abusers.

Perhaps you just need to find the right human beings around you, rather than any one religious belief.

AgentProvocateur · 21/06/2024 16:20

You don’t need religion to be a gentle, kind tolerant person.

Lovelyview · 21/06/2024 16:23

Given that you want to change the way you live and that you have issues with intrusive thoughts Buddhism might be worth investigating. Meditation is a really good practice for actively distancing yourself from the chatter in your mind and Buddhist philosophy can help one accept suffering as part of living and move away from being overly attached to things and relationships. I am not religious but I do think religious practices such as meditation and prayer answer a human need. You might also consider volunteering with a religious organisation to practice kindness such as feeding the homeless.

Redlarge · 21/06/2024 16:25

Sihk

mathanxiety · 21/06/2024 16:27

Funnywonder · 20/06/2024 13:43

Your second sentence would appear to negate the first. 😂

Since when did stating facts put you out of the running for being gentle and kind?

Is it kind?
Is it gentle?

Or is turning the other cheek a kinder or more gentle idea if you see a thread that causes you to dispute its basic premise?

mathanxiety · 21/06/2024 16:29

delilabell · 21/06/2024 05:56

@Singersong I've been through a very dark patch of my life and I want to change the way I live. I was bought up Catholic but with very bitter parents who were negative towards everything. Despite trying really hard to be gentle and kind and well "nice" their opinions sneak back in to my head.
So I suppose I'm looking for a new "lead" in my life, something to follow that can help me be and live what I want to be. Does that make sense? (I don't know if it does!)

Have you ever considered a Taize experience or a retreat in a monastery?

Both can show you other aspects of Christianity.

alrightluv · 21/06/2024 16:29

Spiritualism imo. Follows seven principles and welcomes all.

pinkzebra02 · 21/06/2024 16:37

Probably shinto, although it varies massively as it doesn't have a specific dogma to follow. One of the defining things is that it doesn't even forbid you to follow other religions, so it's so gentle it's even gentle in that way.

RoobarbAndMustard · 21/06/2024 17:22

FlaubertSyndrome · 20/06/2024 16:07

Jainism's code of ahimsa will require you to abstain from root vegetables, and avoid swatting at a mosquito or anything else that might harm the tiniest microorganism, as well as thinking celibacy is the ideal.

(I once ate a potato curry in front of a friend's reproachful-looking elderly Jain aunt and felt like a baby killer.)

Are there many people converting to Jainism?

Meredusoleil · 21/06/2024 17:30

Why don't you just declare yourself a humanist?

Afternoonteavirgin · 21/06/2024 17:31

Paganism or Hare Krishna

Afternoonteavirgin · 21/06/2024 17:33

Conversely, Satanism is gentle in terms of not harming creatures, and forgiving oneself as humans make mistakes.

RoobarbAndMustard · 21/06/2024 17:33

cupcaske123 · 21/06/2024 11:28

Jainism is patriarchal and solely led by men. Apparently sexism is rife and women are viewed as weak minded, deceptive and impure. Most texts about women's experiences are written by men and until recently, women have been unable to speak for themselves.

They don't sound particularly gentle or kind to me towards half the population. They also can't eat chips and believe in reincarnation.

As in so many religions periods and childbirth are considered unclean.

AppleStrudel23 · 21/06/2024 17:33

Funnywonder · 20/06/2024 13:43

Your second sentence would appear to negate the first. 😂

Since when did stating facts put you out of the running for being gentle and kind?

You can't disprove God or a higher power, no one can. So how can you say it's a fact? Just because you think your personal opinion is fact doesn't make it so

anotherusernameforthis · 21/06/2024 17:36

BloodyHellKenAgain · 20/06/2024 16:47

Why can't you eat root vegetables if you're a Jainist?

I had lunch opposite a very sweet Jain teenager.

She told me that root vegetables can’t be eaten because by harvesting them, you kill the plant. Leaves/stems/berries etc can be picked and the plant survives; not the case with root veg…..

AppleStrudel23 · 21/06/2024 17:36

delilabell · 21/06/2024 05:56

@Singersong I've been through a very dark patch of my life and I want to change the way I live. I was bought up Catholic but with very bitter parents who were negative towards everything. Despite trying really hard to be gentle and kind and well "nice" their opinions sneak back in to my head.
So I suppose I'm looking for a new "lead" in my life, something to follow that can help me be and live what I want to be. Does that make sense? (I don't know if it does!)

You're saying you want a religion but you want to choose it on what's kindest, so you don't want to follow it only culturally and not spiritually? Because even if you thought your God or higher power wasn't the kindest compared to others it doesn't matter because that's the truth for you.

I'm sorry about your parents! There are bad eggs in every denomination and religion sadly

itsprettyoutside · 21/06/2024 17:46

"Since when did stating facts put you out of the running for being gentle and kind?"

To be fair, that's your opinion, not a fact.

In answer to the OP, I would say that following Jesus is the 'gentlest religion'. He offers a totally different way that challenged the religious rituals and hypocrisy of the day. It still does today.

pelargoniumsarepopping · 21/06/2024 17:58

Bignanna · 21/06/2024 16:10

What can Jains eat?

As a community they really enjoy food, experiment with a lot of different cuisines and get really creative with substitutions (unripe banana for root veg etc). I had my first burrito bowl in a Jain friend's house! South Asian vegetarian food is also extremely diverse - different kinds of rice, millet, chickpea flour, tapioca and fresh veg dishes and fermented foods you don't really get in restaurants in the UK. There is a lot of protein deficiency though

fungipie · 21/06/2024 18:04

LadyMuckRake · 21/06/2024 05:59

Because you know it'ss unnecessarily disrespectful. "Fairy tales".

Why is this disrespectful?

CurlewKate · 21/06/2024 18:12

"Hinduism is wonderfully kind and peaceful when practised properly"
Hmm. Have you looked into the caste system? As the comedian Ahir Shah says-don't be taken in by the elephants.

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