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Any Witches Here?- Part 19

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speakout · 12/07/2023 17:23

Or Wiccans. or Pagans? Or anyone who is interested in a magical path or feels some magical stirrings.
A place for support, learning, swapping ideas and magical inspiration..
This is the 18th thread- anyone looking for a deep dive into juicy magical topics may like to browse previous threads.....
It is a long list!!
Part 1 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3241689-Any-witches-here?pg=1
Part 2
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3338025-Any-Witches-Here-Part-2?pg=1
Part 3
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3366411-Any-Witches-Here-Part-3?pg=1
Part 4
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Part5
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3437092-Any-Witches-Here-Part-5?pg=1
Part 6 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3482023-Any-Witches-Here-Part-6?pg=1
Part 7 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3520269-Any-Witches-Here-Part-7?pg=1
Part 8 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/a3568622-Any-Witches-Here-Part-8?pg=1
Part 9 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3637696-Any-Witches-Here-Part-9?pg=1
Part 10
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Part 11
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3850635-Any-Witches-Here-Part-11
Part 12
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3997761-Any-Witches-Here-Part-12
Part 13 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/4116107-Any-Witches-here-Part-13
Part 14www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/4213962-Any-Witches-Here-Part-14
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OfTheNight · 22/08/2023 08:36

Hope everyone is well. Thank you so much for the advice about gratitude, @speakout your beautiful quote has been added to my book of inspiration that I use to uplift me in difficult times.

Got the last two weeks of summer off, so looking forward to some time with ds. Going to be visiting Pendle Hill and Clitheroe, which we are very lucky to live close to. We missed the anniversary of the trials this year, hopefully next year we can take part in some of the commemorative events.

Hope everyone has a blessed week.

queenrollo · 22/08/2023 09:56

@speakout I saw Heilung perform live in January. I have to say the heavier stuff works much better live. They don't have gigs they perfrom ritual and it is completely immersive and mesmerising. It's all very primal too, not for the prudish I would say. The set list is structured to flow.
They sage the venue before they enter the stage and the scent wafting over the crowd is a memory I will never forget.
I had my DH with me and he was feeling unwell so that did impact on the evening though. I would really love to see them again and be able to go down into the front of the crowd where there was a lot of dancing and people seemed to be in a trance too.

I have found a local charity who will collect items, so today I am gathering stuff in my dining room. I have so many bags of clothes and bric-a-brac that has been loaded in and out of my car so many times - I get to shops and they aren't taking any more donations that day! I will be so pleased to get it all gone and feel the lightness of the first steps of decluttering.

My birthday tomorrow. I have never really been bothered about the number of my age but as I creep closer to 50 (i will be 48) I find myself mentally struggling a little bit. Turning 40 was something I embraced - I had been unprepared to find approaching 50 as challenging as it is.

EmmaEmerald · 22/08/2023 10:37

queen that's my next birthday. I wouldn't have thought about it at all but I have a boyfriend half my age so that makes it seem a big deal. Though how long that will last, I don't know.

I have seen a healer since my breakdown but trying to think what else I can do. I had to do some mum admin yesterday and it exhausted me - possibly because I feel so angry. Although I'm tired, I think I'll stick to camomile tea!

speakout · 23/08/2023 06:57

Happy birthday queenrollo- I hope you have some fun today.

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Craftycorvid · 23/08/2023 07:14

Happy Birthday, @queenrollo . 🎂

speakout · 23/08/2023 07:15

EmmaEmerald sorry to hear you are feeling weary. You are healing, and that takes time and energy- and patience. The latter is something that is always a challenge for me.
Have you had any counselling or therapy? It can really help to speak to an outsider to gain some perspective.
I am coming to the end of a 26 week block of therapy, and it has been a game changer. Yesterday the therapist and I had our shoes and socks off experimenting with ways of grounding to the earth and how it feels.
I have been doing a huge amount of shadow work. both in therapy and at home.
queenrollo the Heilung concert sounds amazing, I have been checking to see if there are any concert dates near me, I would love to see them.
I have struggled with "big" birthdays, and found my 40th quite hard.
I was much more sanguine about my 50th, and I totally embraced my 60th. Finally claiming cronehood, no longer having to navigate the storms of a monthly menstrual cycle, happy to no longer be the focus of lecherous male eyes, feeling totally confident to go shopping in a torn raincoat, crocs and odd socks.
This age brings a confidence no one had told me about and it has come as a welcome surprise. My sense of self has increased ten fold, I treat myself with compassion, I feel happy in my own skin, and I no longer fear turning 70.

I have a break from my yoga class this morning. DD is coming to visit this afternoon, I have to work this morning, visit the post office, buy some food, so I have space to reax and enjoy her company this afternoon.

I hope you all have a magical day.

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EmmaEmerald · 23/08/2023 10:30

Happy birthday queenrollo hope you have a great day!

speakout I had a couple of experiences of therapy, wasn't for me and very expensive! But I have had some good experiences with healers who are happy to talk about stuff. Though the lady I know is completely bogged down atm. Hard times for all, it seems.

speakout · 23/08/2023 12:04

EmmaEmerald I understand that talking therapy isn't for everyone, and hard to find a therapist that you gel with.
I have had several attempts at therapy over the years, and not all have been successful. Some have been OK, some not helpful at all, some I only lasted a session or two because it didn't feel right.
I think finding a good therapist and one that you bond with is down to luck.

My current therapist is amazing, she totally "gets" me, and the modality suits me. It helps that her office is only a mile from my home, and doesn't cost me a penny, it is paid for me via a charity.
I know therapy can be very expensive, my DS was looking at an online therapist who charges £80 for 50 minutes, and prefers to see clients twice a week.
Not many people could afford such amounts.

I am just back from a walk around a local church surrounded by gravestones. Established in the 12 century and many old crypts and tombs make for a spooky vibe. Many gravestones are so old they are illegible, but lots have carvings of skulls, skeletons, macabre by today's standards.
The church stands across from an old prison, dated 1623, a cross in the cobbles mark the place where people were executed and witches hanged.
Scotland was a particulary dangerous place for women, clergy had a brutal thirst to silence and murder women as witches. Over 4000 women were murderd by the church during the witch craze. Over the whole of Europe the figure is many times higher.
I am glad we have reached a time when the church is prevented from carrying out such atrocities, and athough no longer commands murder still exists in insideous ways. Societal structures and values are underpinned by poisonous views of the church.

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queenrollo · 23/08/2023 15:46

Thank you for the birthday wishes. I got a cup of tea in bed, a card with accompanying pun from my son (he'd been practicing all week apparently), lunch out. A trip to my local witchy shop and we have just got back from the local garden centre where I picked out a birdbath, which is what I requested as my gift. Then to stop it rolling in the boot of the car the assistant gave me a free bag of compost! So in all I have had the most lovely and relaxed day.

Now to clear the space for the birdbath to be placed.

EmmaEmerald · 23/08/2023 18:26

queen how nice to have a bird bath!

I'm going to do a space clearing later. Wonder if the new flat smoke alarms can cope with a white sage incense stick?!

SeaEssence · 23/08/2023 19:15

@queenrollo Happy birthday!

Hedjwitch · 23/08/2023 19:58

Hi all. Surfacing from a nasty fibromyalgia flare which has had me off work this week. Very frustrating.
However,I have had a breakthrough on the herbal healing front and think now have a warming,anti inflammatory essence with the right ingredients. It has helped my hands and fingers these last few days!
I know now where I have been going wrong in this particular product. Not listening to the herbs and not understanding their characteristics! Not all suit being in a salve. Idiot!

Craftycorvid · 24/08/2023 07:51

So glad you are finding the therapy working well, @speakout . The right therapist and relationship is key.

I love mooching around old graveyards and churches, often it’s such a fascinating slice of social history. The tragic pasts of some burial grounds are sobering. And sometimes we may find traces of the Pagan past in the form of green man heads and Sheela-na-gigs. Perhaps those who placed such images in churches were acknowledging something that pre-dated the Christianising of the land?

I love the idea of a birdbath as a gift @queenrollo - you get to enjoy watching the birds come and go and they get to bathe.

Nothing much to report here. Mr C is very bored but there isn’t much to keep him occupied and he finds reading for too long makes his eyes ache. I’m juggling my work, keeping house, essay deadlines and visiting hours. Today looks like being mostly essay writing and visiting.

PearlRuby · 24/08/2023 11:25

Posting for advice. A small free standing bathroom mirror got broke in our house a couple of years ago. I don’t remember how it got broken. I haven’t thrown it out. Should I? Do broken mirrors really bring bad luck? I ask as we have had some difficulties lately. I have read the first thread on this topic with interest but have no familiarity so apologies if this sounds very silly. I just wondered if there was a coincidence.

VioletCharlotte · 24/08/2023 11:51

@PearlRuby everyone has different beliefs but I don't subscribe to the view that broken mirrors mean bad luck or that you'll release evils spirits. You can use the shards in your practise, for scrying or protection spells. I would cleanse the shards first and of course take care not to cut yourself.

VioletCharlotte · 24/08/2023 11:54

I'm another one who enjoys wandering around graveyards. When I was a child, my Grandmother used to live next to a church and we spent a lot of time looking at the gravestones and reading the names. I find them very peaceful places.

@Hedjwitch sorry you've been feeling so unwell. Fibromyalgia is a horrible condition, I have a friend who suffers with it. She takes a cocktail of drugs that have some really unpleasant side effects, so I'm glad you've been able to find some relief through herbs.

PearlRuby · 24/08/2023 13:13

VioletCharlotte · 24/08/2023 11:51

@PearlRuby everyone has different beliefs but I don't subscribe to the view that broken mirrors mean bad luck or that you'll release evils spirits. You can use the shards in your practise, for scrying or protection spells. I would cleanse the shards first and of course take care not to cut yourself.

Thank you. This is very helpful

ISaySteadyOn · 24/08/2023 13:14

I live near a graveyard that is now a nature reserve. It's one of my favourite places in the world. Every time I go in, I feel serenity and calm settle over me.

I like watching nature reclaim the setting.

speakout · 25/08/2023 07:16

Interesting to hear that many of us enjoy a graveyard.
They are very calming places, a good spot for quiet thinking.

And yes, I agree many churches have been built over ancient sacred places in an attempt by the church to eradicate earth based religion.
Blanktimes is our resident expert on all things archaeological!

Many excavations or building works under churches have revealed pagan remains, all over the UK and Europe. Notre dame cathedral in paris revealed incredible carvings in the foundations during excavation work, the pillar of the boatman and other depictions.
Carvings of Roman deities were unearthed, and older pagan images too- like this - Cernunnos, an ancient celtic god. ( still very much alive in my neck of the woods)

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Hedjwitch · 25/08/2023 17:53

Love a graveyard. Old Highgate in London is amazing. Had a wonderful tour there as dusk fell. Very atmospheric.

EmmaEmerald · 25/08/2023 21:02

I like graveyards tooI feel like something or someone there is on my side
I might go tomorrow as I need forgiveness, and not from myself, so to speak

speakout · 26/08/2023 07:23

EmmaEmerald enjoy your trip to the graveyard. I hope you find resolution surrounding forgiveness.

Forgiveness, like gratitude are popular topics in some circles.
I can't say I subscribe to most of the modern ideas surrounding these concepts, and I feel there may be christian doctrine fuelling them.

I have read that we cant be fully healed until we forgive, I really don't agree with that notion.
I can easily get over small things my loved ones have done and continue in a loving relationship. But some people have done serious harm to me, and while the harm or the perpetrator occupy very little of my thoughts, I don't feel inclined to forgive such harm. I can heal without that. I can cut that person out of my life and move on, without anger or feelings of retribution.

Gratitude is a popular one, but one I find confusing. Not sure to whom I should be grateful. Many good things in life come by luck, a combination of effort and opportunity, not by a godly hand.
I think we can increase our odds of a good outcome by our actions, by opening our hearts and setting intention, but we are not selected to have gifts bestowed on us because we are particularly special.
Many people in the world suffer so much, living under the Taliban or in a war zone is not a choice nor a situation bestowed by a capricious god or even the universe.
It does help to realise what a fortunate place I happen to be, and in that be aware of the plight of others- that puts things in context and minimises my small problems.
Having a peaceful place to live, shelter. clean water and food is not a given, not a right and if I find myself getting irked over something small then I remind myself to look at the bigger picture.

I am making preparations for my niece to visit with her husband and young son. She was born and raised abroad- but comes back to the UK to visit relatives and touch her roots. She is a brave survivor of childhood religious abuse, and still struggles with the hard wiring that was set in place. She in now an enlightened atheist, we talk a lot, and it will be amazing to see her. Her close family abroad have distanced themselves when she left the church, her whole word was tied up in the church community, so it has been a struggle to find new ways, new people, while feeling like an outsider, a sinner. She is finding her tribe however. she has courage and fortitude.

A wet rainy day here, OH has to work, but I have Body Balance in a nearby small town, close to a beach and harbour. So if the rain holds off I may take a walk along the shoreline after the class.

Off for my morning spa shower, light my candle and get busy with my morning rituals.
Have an enchanted weekend sisters.

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OfTheNight · 26/08/2023 07:30

We live opposite a cemetery, which is also one of my favourite places to walk! It’s lovely to see others find peace in graveyards. I think they are full of love.

Been having a lovely week off. DP took me to a wonderful shop yesterday an and treated me to some new crystals. He’s a good ‘un.

Off on a few days holiday to the lakes now - ds has convinced us to try water sports, so it should be fun.

Hope everyone has an amazing week.

EmmaEmerald · 26/08/2023 09:33

speakout I didn't know forgiveness was a popular topic in that way.

is that mostly about forgiving yourself?

I feel as if I need forgiveness from an outside ...something...a goddess perhaps?

I know the thing in question will cause a lot of judgement from others but I can't do anything about that.

they do Body Balance classes near where I live now, I used to like that. I'm thinking of trying Tai Chi as well.

VioletCharlotte · 26/08/2023 10:27

I think practicing gratitude can be helpful, but equally it can be harmful, for example when used to put people in their place and a way or preventing others from aspiring to achieve more. I find it a useful way of combatting negative thinking and 'poor me' syndrome. I sometimes find myself falling into a pit of negativity and feeling sorry for myself (often fuelled by spending too much time on social media). When I get like this, I find gratitude or 'counting my blessings' can help. So instead of "why cant I afford a holiday in the sun?", I'll say to myself "I'm so grateful I've been able to have lots of days out at the beach this year", I find this very quickly helps to shift my mindset and feel more positive.