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Any Witches Here?- Part 17.

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speakout · 26/07/2022 16:37

Or Wiccans. or Pagans? Or anyone who is interested in a magical path or feels some magical stirrings.
A place for support, learning, swapping ideas and magical inspiration..
This is the 17th thread- anyone looking for a deep dive into juicy magical topics may like to browse previous threads.....

It is a long list!!

Part 1 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3241689-Any-witches-here?pg=1
Part 2
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3338025-Any-Witches-Here-Part-2?pg=1
Part 3
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3366411-Any-Witches-Here-Part-3?pg=1
Part 4
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Part5
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3437092-Any-Witches-Here-Part-5?pg=1
Part 6 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3482023-Any-Witches-Here-Part-6?pg=1
Part 7 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3520269-Any-Witches-Here-Part-7?pg=1
Part 8 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/a3568622-Any-Witches-Here-Part-8?pg=1
Part 9 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3637696-Any-Witches-Here-Part-9?pg=1
Part 10
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3726266-Any-Witches-Here-Part-10
Part 11
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3850635-Any-Witches-Here-Part-11
Part 12
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3997761-Any-Witches-Here-Part-12
Part 13 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/4116107-Any-Witches-here-Part-13
Part 14www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/4213962-Any-Witches-Here-Part-14
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Aerwyna · 23/12/2022 17:41

New moon blessings to you too speakout, thank you for the boost of astrological insight- just the impetus I needed today.

I’m glad you found the tarot spread enlightening- I got a lot from it too and found clarity in the cards

“I do like a dark movie to counteract too much christmas schmalz.” this made me smile- I’ll put it on to cheer myself up!

A quiet day here, much needed by me. I find the energy a bit much out in the world during the festive season, it all seems so at odds with welcoming the light during the darkest time of year. Funny things, humans aren’t we?!

I’d love to join in the 8’s throughout this time- perfect energy raising yet calming ‘bookends’ to the days.

wishing everyone a peaceful evening

speakout · 23/12/2022 17:59

I look forward to our 8pm bookend candle tonight too Aerwyna.
I did drop into a couple of local shops today, but very frenetic, so I have spent most of the day at home, just catching up with laundry, cleaning hoovering, bathroom, taking time to replenish my bird feeding station. I love watching the little birds arrive and feed, there seem so many robins this year.
I am fuelling up with herbal tea, and relaxing this evening, enjoying the fact I have very little to do.
Meet you at 8 dear friends.

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EmmaAgain22 · 23/12/2022 18:19

I love a dark movie for the same reason!

Alas, I cannot candle at 8. I got called to mum's for another non-emergency.

I will be thinking of you all though, hopefully better times ahead. speakout loved that picture, like light at the end of a tunnel.

BlankTimes · 24/12/2022 02:18

I'm still catching up ... thanks so much for the interior shot of the sunrise on Solstice morn at Newgrange, Speakout. When it was closed due to Covid, the OPW made a decent documentary, well worth a watch, especially for anyone not knowing its significance.

Dowth's flythrough is an interesting experience

Knowth has the greatest collectionof Neolithic Art. It also has 2 passages which are off limits to the public but which are being scanned,

This site is a fantastic resource, VR tours, history, folklore and more, it's magical voicesfromthedawn.com/

Many thanks to everyone on our threads for sharing your wisdom, may you all have a wonderful festive season, 'old folks' that have been here forever, new folks who are just starting out and all the in-betweeners, enjoy this time, however you celebrate.
Bright Blessings.

speakout · 24/12/2022 07:51

BlankTimes thanks for those juicy videos- perfect viewing for this afternoon- tea and sofa time.
I am all set, just doing one last trip to M&S for fruit and berries on my way to Body Balance.
Otherwise a calm day- takeaway tonight, some veg to prep for tomorrow, DD will be over at some point as she will be staying a few nights.
I hope you all manage to find some calm today.

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GenExer · 24/12/2022 11:00

@wordywitch @WiccanWonderer and @Backtotheland
Welcome from me also, I’m not a regular poster but visit whenever I can.

I hear you @wordywitch and @dementedma with the Roman Catholicism background, I was also raised RC, my late mother converted to RC to marry my late father and became staunch: holy communion for me aged 8, convent school, confession every Saturday, family Mass every Sunday with Mass at school in between, confirmation aged 14, eventually becoming a minister of the Eucharist when I was 16. For years, apart from the candles and incense, it didn’t feel right for me as a young woman.
Funny enough it was when I started Nursing & Midwifery training back in the day that I was able to walk away. I’m no longer practicing but come from a line of midwives, I traced my maternal family tree right back to the 1600’s and it’s a very rural line.

@dementedma and @speakout I have rose hip berries that grow in my garden, along with an elder tree so I will have to get myself organised and use those gifts from nature! I also have a crabapple tree but she didn’t do that well for fruit this year after the heatwave.

@speakout your post about having problems with authority struck a chord, too. The Burning Times video and the 2 others that go with it are saved on one of my YouTube favourites lists. The fact that a woman could be accused by her community for such little things: speaking up / talking back / having her own opinion, shows how ingrained misogyny was by Abrahamic religions and still is to this day. ‘It serves men and ratifies their power’ resonates so strongly with me.
Thank you for the poem about joy.
We’ll be watching Krampus this evening!

@VioletCharlotte I’m so sorry I missed your earlier message about your friend. How is she doing? I will be setting intentions later and if you would like, I will add your friend. Thinking of you and sending love.

@HillsBesideTheSea thank you for the links, I had a read of the Folklore Society and am thinking of joining. The talk about coffin paths looks fascinating, there was a fictional book I saw with the same title by Katherine Clements that I’d like to read as well.

@Blank Times I hear you re flying visits! I could have written that myself. I wish I could spend more time with you all, too. Thank you for the links.

@queenrollo hoping your DH’s cough is getting better. Isn’t it frustrating that ill people insist on attending meetings? I empathised when I read that as eldest DS came home from uni full of cold and has been hacking away like the last act of Camille! Thankfully it isn’t The Virus but he creeps around the house like a dressing gowned wraith, poor boy, looking more like an unshaven Dream from The Sandman.
I hope that swirl of feelings have passed for you, or will pass soon.

@WiccanWonderer and @speakout oh I adore a good ghost story!
I struggled with Christmas when my DCs were little, DH had a stressful career and I was also caring for my elderly mum so having so much to do was overwhelming. Eldest DS is high functioning autistic and there were regular meltdowns - more than once a day. DH didn’t really have the time to understand it so I felt as if I was managing everyone’s expectations without having my own needs met. That stage of my life is over and I’m on the right side of not giving a fuck. The season still brings up mixed feelings of loss and guilt that I felt that way and those people (Mum) are no longer here, but once we properly get into December the tension eases. I no longer feel pressure to provide the media / insta version of Christmas (not that my version ever was) but I felt the absence of a wider family environment for my DCs - something I’d grown up with that they’ve never had.

@EmmaAgain sending you peace for a lighter week. I remember those nightly non-emergency calls and I’m sending you much love and empathy.

@Aerwyna thank you for the tarot spread and the 8 candle ritual. Although I only just read about it (I’m always late to the party) I realised that 8pm is the time I light my scented living room candle once we’ve cleared up after dinner.
Tonight I will hold this lovely group in my thoughts.

Thank you for having me, blessings for the next few days and New Year.
I will endeavour to carve out time to engage more so that I don’t have to write such long-winded replies!

EmmaAgain22 · 24/12/2022 11:48

For lovers of ghost stories
I literally just saw the 2021 BBC xmas one - it's on iplayer for a few hours before it goes. Really glad I saw it, liked it a lot.

There was another one last night which I have recorded.

my sister actually said not to watch the Lucy Worsley about witch hunts because she thinks I will find it too upsetting.

speakout · 24/12/2022 12:03

EmmaAgain22 I find these burning times videos upsetting too, but I think we need to know. It's a balance between educting ourselves while making sure we don't overdose.
Churches themselves seem to have a nonchalant attitude to the burnings. I have spoken to church members about the burning times and the attitude is either "well they did what they thought was right" or " it was a long time ago, so doesn't matter any more".

That isn't good enough- none of what they did was ever right- the torture, the strangualation, the drowning, the burning.
The last woman murdered during the burning times was in 1727- I don't think that is long ago at all.
The church and the burning times leave a legacy of shame, misogyny and fear which persists to this day.
I have welcome the Scottish government's apology for the atrocities, but so far the church has remained silent.
That speaks volumes.

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EmmaAgain22 · 24/12/2022 12:44

speakout yes, I think she is concerned about the overdose factor in my case

I would say witch hunts continue on, in different ways.

in other news, "my" familiar scratched me today - I wonder if that means anything!

VioletCharlotte · 24/12/2022 14:47

Thank you all so much for your kind words about my friend and for sending her healing. We heard yesterday that she's out of intensive care, awake, alert and stable, which is amazing news! She's got a long way to go and won't be strong enough to fly back to the UK for a few weeks, but she's heading in the right direction.

Busy day yesterday doing Christmas prep. I don't know what happens, I always think I'm organised and then get caught up in the last minute rush. Today will be calmer, veg to peel for tomorrow and a few last bits to wrap. I was hoping to get out for a long walk but it's pouring with rain, so he'll have to make do with a shorter lead walk. Poor thing is currently being driven to distraction by the smell of the gammon in the slow cooker!

Blanktimes thank you for the links to those videos, I'm looking forward to sitting down later to watch them.

EmmaAgain22 · 24/12/2022 15:29

Violet I dip in and out and missed about friend, I hope she continues with a good recovery and that you are coping okay Flowers

EmmaAgain22 · 24/12/2022 15:30

GenExer also missed your message, thank you and sorry you've been there too.

speakout · 24/12/2022 15:33

That is positive news VioletCharlotte., I wish a speedy recovery. x

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Probablymagrat · 24/12/2022 15:40

@BlankTimes Thank you for the links, I will enjoy watching them later today.

My childhood religion was Methodist Christian. I don't know if this was typical, but it was a cold and joyless experience, the sermon service in the morning which concentrated on how sinful and wrong humanity was, and them more of the same at the afternoon sunday school. Despite their best efforts it never really 'took' in me, and I remained a wilful questioning and probably very irritating child.

I also pinched some of the Sunday school coloured pencils by smuggling them out up my cardigan sleeve, so I was obviously soaked in sin from a young age!

For a long time I was an angry atheist. But as I get older I find I am acknowledging my need for a spirituality.

I had a difficult childhood for various reasons, but I am trying to heal now, and am finding that the idea of the divine feminine resonates so deeply within me. I had bad experiences with RL men and also the Abrahamic concept of the male God and things done in his name. The subjugation and blame and shame of women seems central to that belief system.

A God that is a female and a mother is really what I need, and probably needed all along. I find myself quite naturally turning to her and feeling supported.

I don't feel able to research the burning times at the moment, what is happening to women's rights now is making me angry, sad and rightened enough. I will do though, when I feel strong enough. Its important to know the past.

I wish you all a peaceful and enjoyable feastive season, I will light my 8 o'clock candle too if I can join you, I will send positive thoughts and wish you all joy.

Trenzalor · 24/12/2022 16:23

Positive news about your friend, @VioletCharlotte, I’m pleased and hope she continues to do better than expected!

I’ve just roasted the chestnuts for tomorrow. For the children it’s all about presents - for me the food!

speakout · 25/12/2022 07:20

Merry Christmas sisters.
Whether or what you celebrate.
I love a secular christmas, with chocolate and stockings trees and santa.
Just having a quiet moment and meditation before the day starts.
No children here, all adults, but still fun.
It's my elederly mother who gets overly excited, and starts ripping off paper from any gift she can find- even those intended for others.
We are having a charcuterie board at lunch time, and a dinner later.
I hope you all enjoy your day.

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speakout · 25/12/2022 07:39

I am listening to this as I get ready, to focus some calm.

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Medjuel · 25/12/2022 07:51

Merry Christmas everyone, hope you have a peaceful and enjoyable day whatever you are doing x

hilariousnamehere · 25/12/2022 09:25

Merry Christmas sisters! Hoping to sneak in and catch up after lunch later - I tested positive for covid on solstice morning so this week has been mainly me in a huge sulk because I've missed everything I've been looking forward to for months 😭 but negative now so can at least go home to mum for Christmas!

Have a peaceful, gentle day lovelies xx

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 25/12/2022 09:55

Have a wonderful day everyone, however you are celebrating!

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 25/12/2022 09:55

however, or whether, that should have said!

queenrollo · 26/12/2022 08:58

morning sisters.

It's been a very strange Christmas here. Some extremes of emotion, and also often stretches of me feeling very flat and disconnected from it all.
It was lovely to see my eldest child yesterday and he was so tired he fell asleep on the sofa. It's been years since he has done this and it somehow felt very right to have him all bundled up there. Though we don't see him often, I didn't want to wake him. He needed the rest and I think it was comforting to me that despite having a difficult relationship at times, he felt at ease here.

I got some lovely presents, and am trying not to be ungrateful but I had asked DH for two very specific (and extremely useful!) things and he got me neither of them. So i look at what he bought me and he means well, but it all feels so wasteful. I find the consumerism of the season harder each year and yet gifting me is one of his love languages so he doesn't understand. And if I try to tell him then he will just get upset.

speakout · 26/12/2022 09:37

queenrollo I am glad you survived the day unscathed. The image of your DS sleeping on the sofa is very touching. My DD does this too sometimes and it fills my heart.
She looks like her 6 year old self, comfortable, warm, feeling secure.
Not the capable 22 year od intensive care nurse with a flat and a car.

I despair at the amount of stuff, most of my family and friends know me well and buy little but thoughtul gifts which I really appreciate.
My mother is of the "more is better" camp, gives everyone 50 or so gifts.
She gave me umpteen bath sets, three diaries, five pairs of slipper socks, a sign that says " You don't have to be mad here but it helps", a 1000 piece jigsaw, three calendars with pictures of cute kittens, a disney bath towel, and tons of sweets and chocolate, a book of jokes to read on the toilet, a bible, and a box of ash blonde hair dye ( I have chocolate brown hair)
I am sorry if I sound ungrateful, but I won't use much of the stuff, and have no room for it.
I quietly put the unwanted things in the back of my car- DD and OH have also slipped me large bags of stuff.
I will take most of the chocolate to a food bank, and the rest to charity.

I did recieve some amazing gifts- a beautiful book, some items from This Works ( I love their products) a Tibetan singing bowl, Oracle cards, a wonderful tea, home made soaps and a lovely feather charm to wear on my handbag.
I feel very blessed.
I have been up early this morning to give the kitchen a good clean - although OH did most of the clearing away yesterday.
I am looking forward to brunch - simple porridge with fruit, oat milk and nuts.
A day of simplicity and quiet is called for!

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VioletCharlotte · 26/12/2022 10:42

Morning sisters.

It's funny, when I was a child, I always thought Boxing Day was boring. As an adult, I now understand what DM meant when she said 'Christmas Day is for children, Boxing Day is for the adults'
It's a day of no expectations, a day to just breathe and relax.

Queenrollo yesterday was a bit strange for me too. As a single parent, I've always found it hard to have all the expectation on me, I was was excited about having both adult DC here, but unfortunately youngest was unwell so spent most of his day in bedroom, and DS2's GF is getting over a bad cold so not feeling 100%. We still manages to have a nice day, and it was lovely to spend time with DS1, who doesn't live with me. I smiled at the image of your DS asleep in your sofa, that shows he feels safe and at home with you, despite any difficulties you may have.

We're blessed with blue sky and sunshine here today. My parents are coming over shortly for a coffee, then we'll take the dog for a walk. I feel the need to move after a lot of sitting yesterday, so may do some yoga later.

Hope you all have a good day.

speakout · 26/12/2022 11:01

Glad you are having a chill day VioletCharlotte. Yoga and a walk sound a good antidote.
I always have a need to get things tidy again after christmas, gifts put away, rubbish taken out.
I look forward to the quiet weeks ahead.
Thankfully I have yoga classes through the week, will keep me grounded.

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