Any Witches Here?- Part 17.

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The Solent is a treasure trove of hagstones. You wouldn’t be able to carry all those you found.

Violet - I can't wear jewellery much either. I wish I could. I know a crystal shop lady who wears loads. She can even sleep in it! I can feel the weight of jewellery and it sometimes makes me irritable.

I used to be able to wear a watch, a ring and a necklace but now it's only if I am feeling 110%.

Speaking of that, I am feeling very stagnant still - like it's been forever - and have been wondering if it's worth seeing a healer, same one or not, or even if I have something hanging around me that needs to be removed.

I love that hagstone Trenzalor.
Slim pickings around her- both river and coast.
EmmaH2022 sorry to hear you are feeling stuck, usually earth or water energy help me to get things flowing again.
I am not a fan of wearing jewellery either, especially big clunky solid bangles or metal chains around my neck which always feel like they are snagging my skin.
I have found that jewelery on a cotton cord is much more tolerable.
I have bought a couple of yoga wrap bracelets recently, one single piece that wraps around the wrist, very easy to wear, to me they have a warrior vibe- just the energy I am trying to manifest in myself right now.
This is the bracelet I bought myself, in fact a bought several, all with different stones, I love them and they are so comfortable to wear.
www.etsy.com/uk/listing/976160147/stunning-lapis-lazuli-layered-bracelet?ref=yr_purchases

speakout lovely bracelets. I can't seem to wear bracelets full stop, they annoy me whatever I am doing.

how would I channel earth or water energy please? I am getting out to nature as often as I can from here - conscious it soon won't happen due to early dark - but nothing is making any difference.

I think Hills referred to a long period of life as being totally stuck, presumably you tried all sorts too.

EmmaH yes exactly that! I would love to wear loads of jewellery as it can look so nice on other people, but it makes me feel irritated. Similarly tattoos. I love how they can look on others but I know it would annoy me to have one on my own skin.

Thinking about your post, I wonder if it's the weather and being stuck in the heat and humidity of London that's making your feel so stagnant? If you have any holiday coming up, can you get down to the coast at all? It's true what they say about it blowing the cobwebs away, I always find a walk on the beach or a swim in the sea makes me feel cleansed and renewed.

Speakout that bracelet is beautiful. I can't bear anything round my wrists, no matter how soft it is, but it's really lovely and I agree it has a warrior vibe!

Trenzalor I love that hagstone, it's got great energy about it! Are you going to hang it up?

I picked more blackberries than I know what to do with yesterday so I'm the process of washing and freezing them. I've made a few crumbles, and might make some jam, or even blackberry gin.

Violet* I love the layers of crystals some people wear and it looks so nice.

Re getting away, I did get into some countryside for a couple of days, no change. I find the process of trains etc very stressful so the benefit to getting to the sea might not be worth it, I don't know. I'm exhausted in the spiritual sense so not sure.

Re the weather and the city, it hasn't helped but I have had this stuck feeling since January at least. Sorry if I am repeating myself but sometimes life just sits, stagnantly, until something dramatic happens, and it might not even be a good thing. I've had a couple of these periods before.

Need a fast forwarding spell....although you can never know what you will fast forward to!

blackberry gin sounds exciting!

VioletCharlotte your crumbles sound delicious.
I haven't had one this year, I love them hot with ice cream.
Yes to the water energy, swimming or even paddling in running water can help things flow.
Or barefoot walking on the earth, even just a patch of grass is very grounding.
I feel the same thing about tattoos- I love them on otherr people, but I go through phases of interest, and I know I would regret a tattoo within a couple of months.
I have my last Gestalt session tomorrow, the 4 month block finishes.
I have had counselling and talking therapy in the past, but none have been so profound as this. Diving very deep, coming to a geater understanding of myself and opened up new ideas to work on. It has been enlightening and very healing.

Speakout it would be better for my waistline to not be making so many crumbles 🤣

I'm so glad your therapy has helped you, it sounds like it's made a huge difference to how you're feeling. Therapy, when done well, can be so beneficial. I'm really pleased that there seem to be less stigma attached to therapy these days. That whole British 'stuff upper lip' thing is so damaging, I'm glad people are now realising we need to deal with this stuff, not just store it all up and pass the hurt down to the next generation.

EmmaH I agree with Speakout and really feel being around or in water could help you. If you can't get to the coast, how about one of the open water swimming ponds or Lidos in London once the school go back and everywhere is quieter? Even lane swimming can help, there's something about being in the water that makes you feel free.

Violet oh I've been to the lido.

nothing shifts this stuck feeling.

I think we have to accept phases, but sometimes they are so flipping long!

I might go on another bat walk. I really liked that, felt better for a few days afterwards.

Etsy jewellery is such a rabbit hole - some really beautiful pieces there.

My stuck was caused by the fact that i didn't feel that i deserved to be loved or have a future, whilst trying to work on having a future. I needed to do a lot of work unpicking some very deep rooted and traumatic thought patterns, beliefs and experiences. I am not completely unstuck, but i am slowly moving forwards and often I find i am beginning to become stuck again it is down to something i need to be doing /avoiding. Unfortunately, hard work, persistance and facing the trauma has been the thing that has enabled me to move forwards; so a mundane solution rather than a magical one. I had to be careful of trying to hide in nature and magical things rather than actually facing the thing that needed to be dealt with. Not an easy solution in any respect. And honestly something i expect to struggle with for a long time.

But there is the flipside, ADHD brain means that i also struggle with insummountable tasks, things that seem easy to most people but simply bring me to a complete stand still. Had a couple of those to face up to this morning. Once i sorted them i was able to move on very productively with my day, but damn did the procrastination and avoidance cause me to freeze hard.

@EmmaH2022 bat walks are always good for the soul. We saw deer the other night, they were real close too when we startled them.

Hills you have worked very hard.

I am still feeling very much that an outside force is keeping me stuck. The healer thought that too. This is more on the spirit side but it would be nice if someone could at least give me a timetable for when I'm allowed to progress. I always end up worrying that I am being given time before something awful happens, that someone is trying to protect me from the next thing.

How lovely to see deer. I think a big thing for me, with the bat walk, was being in a forest at night, which was magical to me.

I felt the same about it being an outside force, but actually when i processed the internal the outside force that was the cause of the feeling stuck lost its control. Despite still being exposed to the outside force. And now if i need a hug or just someone to say you can do this, i have it. And the impact of those who wish ill/control is significantly less, although not changed iyswim.

The forest in the dark creeps me the fuck out. I stay out of it. Too many bad experiences in that kind of environment and i have learnt the hard way it is not a place for me to be in the dark. The daytime and dusk no problem. Top of a hill in the dark no problem, but the local forests/wooded areas? they have history and presence and i am going to respectfully keep my distance in the dark. And yes, i am a total wimp. I am going to own that.

Hills you're not a wimp at all, I think most people wouldn't want to be in a forest after dark, I'm just weird.

when you say "outside force" I suspect you're not thinking of the things I'm thinking of but I am trying not to sound like a crazy person 😂

HillsBesideTheSea and EmmaH2022 it is so interesting to read about how you are working through challenges.
So much of our behaviour is hard wired in childhood, we develop coping strategies to protect ourselves as children, but those mechanisms don't serve us too well as adults, and can actually cause us problems.
I do believe that we can heal and change as adults, to work towards a place where we feel calm and safety, allow joy to seep into our bones.
I also think there are different ways to achieve that and each person's healing journey will be different- there are different tools and different strategies.
I am no expert and still a work in progress on my own healing journey.
I feel that something we all have in common is working towards a deeper connection to self. And that means developing self compassion.
Our internal critic is often the worst- an often as women we live like flotsam, carried away by others needs and wants.
My process involves checking in with myself regularly to observe my feelings,
be aware of my emotional state and take steps if I can to change things.
Using negative words towards myself is something I am vigilant of, even if I don’t speak out loud. Words have power, and if we start to apply words like stupid, crazy or a wimp that can sabotage our good work.
I also think that work to heal the self is deeply magical, lines between the magical and mundane are fuzzy as we work with the inner child, the higher self, use elements to heal, grounding, counselling, meditation or shadow work.
I often wake with anxiety, but I know that can be calmed by my self love morning ritual- treating myself with care and compassion and allow the fears to
move on.
Have a magical day friends.

speakout interesting observations. I am glad your therapy helped you.

We are such a pair of opposites! I find the childhood years don't factor much at all. Barring a lot of nostalgia for the late teens but that's a nice thing.

Early career - now that's a big factor in how I think. I try to take the good, obviously.

I've never really had my life directed by the needs of others, barring parental ill health. I resent having an oldie on board now but I try not to dwell on it.

I have probably explained myself badly, for the second time, on the same issue. emotionally I am well. But perhaps I'm in the realms of Spiritualism now and that's not a thing for posters in this thread?

I am sure someone is holding me back and I wish they would acknowledge it or explain why.

Good morning sisters! Loving catching up on the thread and hope you are all having good Tuesdays.

Huge love to everyone who's experienced baby loss, I'm so sorry - I love the ways you've talked about to remember them and keep them near, though.

Before I forget, @Elphame may I have a link for your jewellery please?

I've been working lots of household magic - I have a skip, I am clearing and cleaning and decluttering, and while this is not usual practice for me, it is definitely starting to loosen some of the stuck feelings in my brain. I wrote my first spontaneous blog post for months a couple of days ago and am feeling determined.

Something that has occurred to me with this "spring" clean is that usually I only tackle the surface mess - this time I am making the time to sort out the drawers and cupboards which underpin everything so that I can make a more lasting change to the chaos.

And while I mean that in an entirely literal and mundane way, I think it is also working for my inner and non-physical chaos!

Yesterday was my Dad's birthday, the sixth without him, so mum and I did a distillery tour and tasting and spent the day by the seaside in his memory and honour. It was a beautiful day and he sent us several signs through the day which was lovely. And I am restored from sitting on the beach watching the waves and then hunting for sea glass!

and Mum found a hagstone on the beach - of course she did 😂 it's like her signature thing now 😁

Having a gentle start today then diving into my upstairs chaos, have a gentle and magical day my loves x

I went to Buster Ancient Farm today and I highly recommend it. They had houses reconstructed from the Neolithic to Saxon age, all based on known archaeological findings but then being adjusted as they see what actually works. It was so wonderful to see how our ancestors lived in harmony with the land. There is an artist in residence and he’s creating a harvest god so I attached a photo. They seem to have a very sympathetic pagan side from what I’ve seen on Facebook.

Well I would but somehow it’s too big!

A beautiful image of a roundhouse roof instead then!

@EmmaH2022 i don't think it is that posters are not on the same page, i think that a lot of us are very keen to resolve the mundane first. Mundane solution first then magical/spiritual. If you are very certain it is that and you are still stagnating than perhaps further guidance may be the answer, however, the question will be important. What exactly are you looking for if the direct answer is not possible. How can you get enough information to move forwards without the obvious.

Apparently I am stuck on it being Monday. Tbf it has felt like a very mondayish kinda day today. But the hip has given out and this old lady needs a hobble to try to walk it loose. Too much sitting in crap chairs that put your knees above your hips.

EmmaH202 I'm nodding in agreement with everything Hills has said. Are you able to articulate where it is you want to get to? When you say you're stuck, do you mean you feel you're not making the progress you would like to along your spiritual path? It would be interesting to hear about your thoughts on this.

Speakout your words about the inner voice are so true. Someone once said to me that we should speak to ourselves the same way we would speak to our best friend. This really made me think, as I'm always so supportive of my friends, yet I'm my own worst critic! I know why this is, my DM was always highly critical and nothing I did was ever quite good enough (she never meant to be nasty and thought she was just pushing me to do my best). But it left me with incredibly low self esteem and as a result I made some really poor choices as a young adult. Now I'm aware of this, like you I now choose my words carefully and do my best to be kind to myself.

Hills your worlds on ADHD brain are interesting. DS (23) has recently been diagnosed with ASD and ADHD and I've been doing a lot of reading that's helped me understand how exhausting it must be to be neurodivergent in a neurotypical world.

Trenzalor sounds like you had a lovely day! Buster Farm isn't that far from me, but I've not been there for years. Reading your post had made me want to go, I think there's a yurt there where they do womens circles and various events?

Hilariousnamehere I love a good de lutter! There's something very powerful about getting rid of things you know no longer need and making space in your home for fresh energy to flow. I'm planning to do the same when I have some time off work in September. Glad you had a lovely day with your mum, it sounds very peaceful and a nice way to remember your Dad.

@VioletCharlotte you should go. I don’t know about events in yurts but they do keep the festivals. Might be worth following them on FB to see what comes up?

A damp day here, had to reort to getting clothes dried at the launderette yesterday- they don't quite have the same magical sparkle.
Buster Farm looks amazing, what a place to visit.
And yes to clearing out stuff- it always frees the mind and calms my energy.
Clearing and cleansing are magical activities, the deeper I journey into my craft the more I see how all in connected.
Actions in the material world also impact the subconscious, the spiritual, the emotional. These planes of existance weave into one, and to me are quite inseparable.
EmmaH2022 I hope you can find clarity in the situation you have. Of course discussions about spiritual matters are welcome here, I am sorry this stagnation is causing you frustration and worry- very human emotions.
We are not always in control of aspects in our lives, but we do have the power to modify our reactions.
Sometimes things move in their own time, and the lessons to be learned are not in the place we are looking.