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Is this normal 3 year old rubbish? Or a bit unusual? It freaks the hell out of me...

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funnypeculiar · 08/07/2007 22:06

DS ( 3 1/2) says that a lady comes in the night - he is often nervous of her coming at bed time. He doesn't like her (I tried to suggest she was nice, he said "He, she is bad" - an ususual choice of words for him). He wants us to tell her to go away, and sometimes wakes in the night saying she has come - once we tell her to go away he calms down. This has happened in houses other than our own. This morning he said "She has big hair, and she says things and makes me sad". He has been talking about her for probably 4 months or so now.

It should also be said that he has regular visits from sharks, crocodiles etc - but the lady visits with more consistancy, and is clearly always the same lady...

Any ideas on how to tackle it?

So far our policy has been not to deny that she is there, but to tell her to go away when he asks us to, and assert that she's now gone.

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edam · 08/07/2007 22:40

I saw the bit about not only in your house but didn't realise she'd turned up on holiday. Still think getting rid of her from your house might help, though.

rattleskuttle · 08/07/2007 22:40

my dd had a similar experience about 6 months ago, strangely also a woman with lots of horrible hair , who, she says, took her to a dark place. we thought it was just a dream but it really upset her, more than anything else has done.

we told her she must have been dreaming and have a place for her to come and sleep in our room whenever she wants. also we tried sleeping in her room in case there were any noises, etc, and it was fine.

funnypeculiar · 08/07/2007 22:43

Yes, think the idea of dealing with this in the daytime is a good one. Think I am avoiding it becuase in films when you draw the scary monster it always comes back to get you . Will fight this irrational fear.

Might try sign on the door to start with, as it is all about her coming into his room. The picture as second stage of attack, before getting too serious about it. I'll also ask him what he thinks would help.

Pirate girl - he is awake when he calls out for us, but not terrified - just kind of nervous and uncomfortable. Has never pointed - thank God - I'd be found in a fainty heap on the floor of his room...

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funnypeculiar · 08/07/2007 22:47

Interesting, rattleskuttle - the big hair thing got to me rather
If he's freaked we do sleep in his room/bed - but try not to bring him in with us as a) his sister's usually already there and b) he tends not to sleep in our bed!

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dizzymummy · 08/07/2007 22:47

I had this all the time with my dd, when she started to talk first she used to point and say "lady" "Lady" then when she was about 3ish she used to talk about the "gleaming lady" who used to visit her.

I heard her chatting in her room one night and when I asked her who she was talking to she said it was her Other Mummy and that her name was Michelle!! (freaked me right out).

All disappeared when she was about 4

fingerwoman · 08/07/2007 22:48

sorry I just pmsl at her other mummy michelle lol
did you know anyone called michelle or had she totally made it up?

rattleskuttle · 08/07/2007 22:51

my dd was nearly 3 when she saw/dreamt this. she will be 4 in december and hasn't had any more probs like this since then.

hopefully these visions will go soon for your ds.

funnypeculiar · 08/07/2007 22:54

dizzymummy - did you do anything to hasten Michelle's departure {hopeful emoticon]

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dizzymummy · 08/07/2007 22:54

I know somehow I don't picture a ghost being called Michelle!

She also had an imaginary friend called Ishwar, we had a big song and dance about getting him in to the car with her in the mornings! I don't know where the names came from - a little girl in her nursery had a mum called michelle but don't know where Ishwar came from though.

It used to really freak me out when she talked about the gleaming lady!

purpleduck · 08/07/2007 22:54

My son went through some very strange stuff awhile ago -won't go into it, but I spoke with a woman I know who is a medium/thingy (not sure exactly what) Anyways, she is convinced that small children can see all sorts of otherworldly stuff. She suggested talking to my son about his guardian angel (if you believe that sort of thing), and asking it to take special care of him. It did seem to work. hth

pirategirl · 08/07/2007 22:56

have to say thinking back my dd, was having a bad time at night, the whole ghosty thing, betwen the age of about 3 3/4 and 4 1/2.

I presumed it was because of changes to our homelife, her dad going, and us moving. Yet perhaps they are just more open at this age. Or more fearful?

CHOCOLATEPEANUT · 08/07/2007 22:57

put a crucifix over his bead. i had some odd experiences years ago and i did this and it stopped.

lulumama · 08/07/2007 22:58

our ghost was called stanley

pirategirl · 08/07/2007 22:58

i would be too scared lol. Like i'd be encouraging something that wasnt there.

Thats just me tho. if it worked for you then all the better.

pirategirl · 08/07/2007 22:59

lul, i never read the last bits of your thread. have u really had no further episodes or problems?

lulumama · 08/07/2007 23:00

we have had nothing since, nothing at all....totally weird free zone.....!!

very odd all in all, but am glad it got sorted easily

pirategirl · 08/07/2007 23:00

is there a definitely 'different feel' to your home.

lulumama · 08/07/2007 23:02

yes, and in particular areas too, there is just no weird vibe...and no more things that DD has noticed, or DH or me....it is definitely different, took a couple of days to really feel the differnce, but it is noticeable

pirategirl · 08/07/2007 23:06

ooh er, then you really did ( not that I was doubting) have the whole shabang from start to finish.

It's incredible. These sorts of things make me wonder how non believers, can honsetly say , 'na, load of rubbish', then again, there is so little proof.

The spiritual world just seems so subtle, but then so in your face when it wants to be.

sorry , hijacking here. Hope op, that you have luck with your ds soon.

lulumama · 08/07/2007 23:08

if it had happened to anyone else, i would have taken it with a pinch of salt, and i do beleive in all this, but it was really , really odd !!!

but sorted now

hijack over, sorry, funnypeculiar

dizzymummy · 08/07/2007 23:11

Hi Funnypeculiar, as she didn't seem upset by it we thought we'd just leave it and eventually she just stopped talking about Michelle, I did wonder if it was just her imagination or could she actually see something, I guess we'll never know!.

Her imaginary friend used to upset her though, she'd come and ask me to tell him off - I would (felt a bit silly doing this but it made her feel better)

StarryStarryNight · 08/07/2007 23:12

Dont know how to say this, but I somewhat disagree slightly. Maybe this started out as just a bad dream, he told you about it, and you by agreeing with him confirmed there really WAS a lady there? What if it only was his active imagination, but now that you agree with him that he is there, it must really freak him out? For surely, if YOU see her and talk to her, she must be there, even if HE doesnt, he just imagines it. Does that make sense? Maybe making a big deal out of it will just make it worse? You say he calms down every time you tell her to go away, and he also calms down every time you say you will tell her to go away if she comes.

How about trying to say, I dont think she will be back. I am sure she has gone elsewhere for good. Or, try say, do you really see her, because today I cant!

NO expert on spirits, but it does not seem as normal spirit behaviour. If you tell them to go away (if they are not unfriendly) they usually stay away knowing you dont want them there, when they sense they frighten you? And if they are bad, they wouldn't go away just because you say so, but return later. They might just sit down in the corner and eye you up. Also, sprits dont usually follow from house to house, they stay in one place.

Blessing the house (go from room to room and pray for God to and Jesus Christ to bless your home and drive away evil spirits etc, do the cross in olive oil over each entry point, doors windows, beginning in the room furthers from front door working your way towards it) will of course not harm.

StarryStarryNight · 08/07/2007 23:13

sorry ..now that you agree with him that she is

StarryStarryNight · 08/07/2007 23:15

again sorry, seems like I somehow missed a whole chunk of thread... glad it is sorted.

pirategirl · 08/07/2007 23:53

starry, hi, no you havent missed anything to do with th Op, i was asking lulumama about her expereinces a while back.

The op, is still the subject here . I was hijacking slightly.

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