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Any Witches Here Part 5.

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speakout · 28/11/2018 18:28

Or Wiccans. or Pagans? Or anyone who is interested in a magical path or feels some magical stirrings.

A place for support, learning, swapping ideas and magical inspiration

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Sokere · 28/12/2018 08:42

@speakout I will be glad to see the end of the festivity season too. I am tired of socialising and not looking forward to NYE or NYD. Another INFJ here so this isn't easy.

@Elphame I hope your parents are on the mend and commiserations to those suffering atm.

Ps... Sending good luck vibes to your son speakout. Hope to be back soon.

speakout · 28/12/2018 10:21

Sokere

I sympathise.

I don't do NY at all, I refuse to engage with it.
I go to bed as normal.
We do have ILs over on Sunday but it is a family lunch rather than a party.
DS is working on Sunday so I have offered to play Taxi for him which gets me ( partly) and him totally out of the situation

And NYE i will be at a yoga class- so all good!

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Loyaultemelie · 28/12/2018 10:30

Good luck Speakout's DS!

I too am socialised out, we had a bit of drama on Sunday with dhs elderly (94, 95 in January) aunt taking ill when we visited so that was doctors and ambulances. She is on the mend now. Then it just seems to have been non stop. Time to hole up now until NYE unless I can convince dh to give the neighbours house a miss!

YashmisCrone · 28/12/2018 10:39

Sending good vibes to your DS speakout for a positive experience on his first day

And to my sisters here who need a boost today 🕯

queenrollo it’s incredible to hear how you’ve managed to turn things around and make changes to the pattern of your depression. I think that’s a really big deal and I admire your strength and tenacity. I work in MH, have personal experience of depression and often think that it’s one of the hardest illnesses to deal with. It’s insidious and can end up filling every corner of our lives before we realise. I think this time of year is the worst in many respects- the physical atmosphere, darkness, change of routine meaning that usual coping mechanisms can go awry and as you say, difficult family situations coming into a sharp focus against the background of what could or should be.

Really pleased to hear that your therapy has helped so much. I think good therapy helps ‘re-wire’ our brains- the changes made are permanent IME, so even though things can still be tough, you’re starting from a more resilient point. I’m rambling again, but I think I’m trying to say that I really admire what you’ve done to change things- I know how hard that is.

Good to see you Sokere, hope you’re able to find a few minutes peace amongst it all to get you through. I’m lucky to have plenty of time to myself which nourishes me- although I need to watch that I don’t isolate myself- I can do that without noticing sometimes as my ‘natural default’ is to enjoy my alone time- however, no woman is an island and I need to push myself to reach out before I reach this point. It’s such a balancing act for all of us isn’t it.

I know INFJ’s are probably the most sensitive in many ways in terms of absorbing the emotions of others. I heard what I thought was some good advice about practicing being a ‘conduit rather than a vessel’ for others’ emotions. To feel them and be able to tune in that way whilst recognising that the feelings aren’t our own so we can then let them go. I sometimes do a mental exercise where I ‘sort through’ what I’m feeling and work out what’s mine and what’s not- visualising letting go of what isn’t mine. Just noticing usually helps me.

speakout your coping strategies seem very similar to mine- I’d be the one offering to taxi too to give me a break from the proceedings. I think I’ve learnt over the years to build in a few minutes here and there amongst it all to get me through. It really does help me manage my energy.

Loyaultemelie glad to hear she’s on the mend and hope you can find some peace and calm in the coming days

Blessed be all x

Elphame · 28/12/2018 11:01

Good luck to your DS speakout. I hope he enjoys his first day.

Well DM & DF have gone, the GP sorted him out ( he's had a few health problems over the summer and does now tend to over react to even minor things). DM has sworn off curry.

Rest of the house guests should go today as I'm also well over peopled. I'm joining the rest of you who are hibernating until NYE which is also my birthday so we'll be going to friends for the night. Can't really avoid it...

I'd love to post a picture of the huge glittery dragon coffer here but I can just see it starring at the top of the DM article "Worst Christmas gifts"!

KizzyWayfarer · 28/12/2018 11:03

Elphame thanks for the plant ID!
Violet I hope your DC’s visit to their dad went/is going ok
queenrollo it sounds like you’re taking one day at a time emotionally, hang on in there.
speakout good wishes to your DS for his first day at work.
My challenge over the next few days will be to be the proverbial duck’s back on which water makes no impression. Looking forward to having our house to ourselves again but until then I just need to stay calm and not get tetchy!

VioletCharlotte · 28/12/2018 11:47

Morning all. I'm another one who doesn't really enjoy big gatherings of people and will create opportunities to escape. I'm quite happy to be taxi, help out in the kitchen, etc. I like to be doing something. I get bored just sitting and making conversation, particularly with extended family, I love them all very much but have little in common with them.

Speakout sending positive energy to your son today. I hope his first day goes well.
Kizzy Wrap yourself in a protective cloak. Can you get out for a walk for a bit of time to yourself?
Elphame the dragon sounds truly hideous! What are you doing to do with it?!

Sending love and positive to everyone 🙏 Try and make time to do the things you want to over the next few days if you can. I'm treating it in the same way I would any other week off work and trying to get out and do the things I want to do. One of the (many!) benefits of being single is I don't have to put up with any in laws! Like Speakout, I don't celebrate NYE and treat it like any other evening.

I'm planning a trip to Avebury stone Circle this afternoon. It's only an hour from me, but I've never been and have had a pull to go for a while. Will report back later!

speakout · 28/12/2018 12:24

Thanks for all the kind wishes for my son.

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Veterinari · 28/12/2018 14:41

Finally home after a hectic family Christmas down south, and enjoyed a lovely dog walk this morning. The city I live in has so many wonderful wild places. I’m now curled up with a cat on my lap watching Terry Pratchet’s ‘going postal’ on catchup. A lovely lazy nourishing day, with soup bubbling in my new slow cooker.

I plan to have a good fettle of my flat later - I always like to clear out before the new year and start January with a fresh slate.

So pleased you dog is back to normal Violet

Loyaultemelie · 28/12/2018 15:23

Oh dear Elphame the dragon must really be a sight to behold!
Sokere and YashmisCrone I have just been reading about INFJ personalities and it rings a lot of bells. Will definitely be reading some more

YashmisCrone · 28/12/2018 16:09

Sounds bliss Vet - I’m after something good to watch- was that on tv? There’s something very special about coming home to your own space isn’t there.

Loyaultemelie you’ve probably seen it already, but if you’re interested in personality types/mbti I’d recommend this test:

www.16personalities.com/free-personality-test

Followed by further reading/listening here:

personalityhacker.com/personality-type-resources/

I was going a bit stir crazy so took myself out for a walk down the river. I’m going to make a dhal with some fresh veg- my body is pleading with me for some simple healthy food again!

speakout · 28/12/2018 16:16

Vet your evening sounds lovely.

YashmisCrone I am craving healthy food too, I am making a vegetable bake with a big green salad.

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HillsBesideTheSea · 28/12/2018 16:17

I actually like the sound of the huge glittery dragon coffer

I might have yelled 'ffs don't make me people anymore' today Blush The visitors aren't visitors. We live in the same house. But they are people people who like to people, and really really don't understand my dislike to people. Hmm Things are calm apart from that little outburst. A nap should fix that issue - I have the exhausted tireds atm.

I had an interesting encounter with someone describing a new years eve ritual that involve leaving the back door of the house with certain items before midnight and then returning through the front door with the items after midnight in the new year. Is this a local cultural thing or does this happen else where? The items taken were particularly interesting (especially what little symbolism that was explained) does make me wonder as to the origin of it.

YashmisCrone · 28/12/2018 16:34

Sounds delicious speakout! Just the thing. I’m going to try out this recipe: www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/sweet-potato-dhal-curried-vegetables

Hills, hope you feel better for a nap.. was it first footing that you heard about?

folklorethursday.com/christmas/first-footing-can-improve-year/

Elphame · 28/12/2018 17:00

Ooh I'm going to have to try that dahl recipe. Dahl is one of my favourites.

It's roasted vegetables and pasta on the menu tonight here.

On the subject of NYE traditions, one of mine is never to let the fire go out before midnight to make sure that you have fire and warmth in the coming year,

VioletCharlotte · 28/12/2018 17:06

I've had a lovely afternoon at Avebury stone circle. It's much less touristy than Stonehenge, but the energy is magical. It envelopes you like a big hug. The dog and I spent an hour or so walking amongst the stones and putting my hands on them to draw on their energy. I spent time at the foot of this beautiful tree. So much strength and wisdom! I ended my visit in the Henge shop, which sells all sorts of witchy things, tarot cards, crystals, etc. Feeling relaxed and revitalised again 😊

Any Witches Here Part 5.
speakout · 28/12/2018 17:11

VioletCharlotte

THat sounds a macical place- what a lovely photograph too. I wish it wsa nearer to me.

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VioletCharlotte · 28/12/2018 18:36

Speakout it's such a lovely place. There are quite a few really spiritual places to visit in the south west.

Yashmis that recipe looks delicious. I love dahl.

I'm going to have salad tonight with some falafel and hummus.

TooManyPaws · 28/12/2018 19:16

Hills, are you talking about first-footing? The Scottish tradition is that the first person to enter across the threshold after The Bells at New Year should be male, preferably dark, bearing at the very least coal and whisky to ensure heat/fuel and sustenance for the year ahead. There may be a few additional items. My father would be very insistent on sending a piece of coal in clingfilm back with me to my flat in the New Year.

As a teenager in rural Aberdeenshire, we would spend most of New Year after midnight wandering from house to house, bottles in hand, to enjoy hospitality. Now I join my university flatmate at her family and friends Hogmanay gathering where one of the young men is pushed outside before the Bells with whisky and coal, to first-foot after midnight. It's a Very Serious Matter.

Speakout I hope your son got on well, was today his first day in the job?

speakout · 28/12/2018 19:27

paws yes just about to pick him up.

My memories of first footers as a child in rural scotland probably why I don't celebrate it now tbh!!

I understand that isn't everyone's experience.

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FitzsFool · 28/12/2018 19:59

Hello everyone, like many of you here I'm feeling thoroughly peopled-out and feel like I've only just stopped to breathe! My eldest DC is similar to me in that he is easily overwhelmed by the whole thing and I think we will need to think carefully about how we 'Christmas' in the future as there can be so many obligations that detract from, rather then enhance what should be an enjoyable time of year.

YashmisCrone you are so right about this being a difficult time of year for many people because their reality doesn't marry with what 'should/could' be. @queenrollo I hope this December is continuing to be a better one for you.

@speakout I love what you said about being ready for the 'stark cold simple vibe of January'. I don't mind January at all and find it a restive, contemplative kind of time free from expectation of other times of the year. I quite enjoy the simplicity of it after the carnival of the preceding months!

I have the house (well, the living room at least as kids are upstairs asleep!) to myself this evening for the first time in quite a time and I'm enjoying the uncomplicated company of my cat whilst nibbling at the gratuitous amounts of food we still have knocking about. Hope you're all having a good evening.

Loyaultemelie · 28/12/2018 22:23

Oh thank you YashmisCrone I will have a look at that link!

VioletCharlotte what a wonderful photo it looks like a truly special place

HillsBesideTheSea · 28/12/2018 22:25

It would indeed seem that the tradition is called First footing. But in this case it is a female who does the first footing. The link that YashmisCrone post has some interesting information on the variations depending on the area, interesting that the tradition is primarily discussed as north England/Scotland context. I guess my interest is in how first footing came about especially when the items taken (in the case I 1st heard about) were air, earth, fire and water related. I am curious what the roots are and how it has developed through history. yes this is how my brain works I might have to add it to the list of things to research at some point.

We also discussed Obby Oss, straw bear, up helly aa, and the traditional of corn circles with corn dolls. Fascinating the old festivals, their symbolism and origins.

speakout · 29/12/2018 08:10

HillsBesideTheSea

I love these old traditions too.

It's lovely to step back to find connections and meanings.

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speakout · 29/12/2018 08:13

Good morning everyone. It's a wild windy day here grey dawn sky is powerful and thick black clouds moving fast.

THanks to all who sent good wishes to my son, he had a great first day in his new job so a relief.

Early days- but so far so good.
I am just delighted he has got to this stage.

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