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No Church service on Easter Sunday- can someone explain?

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speakout · 02/04/2018 06:28

My mother has recently become a Mormon- was baptised a few months ago. Not my bag but I have been supportive and the church community have welcomed her.
But she is confused about their lack of enthusiasm for christmas and Easter. Our other local churches were busy all day on Easter Sunday, with three or four services each.
Mormon church was closed. No services at all in the past few days. Normal Sunday morning service was not running. I thought easter was a big thing for christians. Can someone explain.

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lougle · 08/04/2018 20:26

Apologies, speakout, I thought we were discussing your Mum. You've made your own feelings clear. I was explaining the reference the Mormon church may be relying on to justify their stance re. familial salvation through the baptism of one believer.

Incidentally, I would agree with you that God is, at times, vengeful, wrathful, jealous, and angry. That is not incompatible with abounding love and never ending grace.

I disagree that he is misogynistic, hot headed, genocidal and a murderer, but sadly, His church have been in the past (cf The Crusades, for e.g.) and many, many people do things by their own design in His name that He would never condone.

I hope your Mum finds the peace that she is looking for. I don't think the Mormon Church will provide that, because I believe that Christ and Christ alone gives peace that transcends all understanding, but I don't doubt that she will find kindness there in individuals who mean well, and until she is ready to move on, perhaps that is what she will be happy with.

speakout · 08/04/2018 20:29

christ and Christ alone gives peace that transcends all understanding,

What does that mean?

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speakout · 08/04/2018 20:33

Christ and Christ alone gives peace that transcends all understanding,

Because actually that is a heap of shit.

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lougle · 08/04/2018 20:33

For a Christian, it simply means that we put our whole trust in Jesus, and that when we do that, we can be fully assured that He can meet our needs, that whatever happens, we will be alright. It doesn't stop life being life. It doesn't stop bills arriving, bad things happening, the rain starting when you've just pegged out the last bit of washing, etc., but with faith in Jesus, and the assurances of the Bible, we know that God has promised to be with us through all things. That brings great peace.

lougle · 08/04/2018 20:35

speakout I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm tired, having spent the last two days at the hospital with my mother, so I'm not going to play ping pong further. I hope she gets support from her church, or another church community.

Dumbledoresgirl · 08/04/2018 20:41

Sorry, correction, their MAJOR prophet. That is definitely Jesus.

Sorry, I know very little about Mormonism, but I know one thing. The above statement is not Christian doctrine. Jesus is not considered a prophet by any Christian church I know. He is higher than that, the son of God, to be precise. The definition of a Christian is that they call Jesus Lord. Other religions, e.g. Islam, view Jesus as a prophet.

Walkingdeadfangirl · 08/04/2018 22:07

speakout I get your mother thinks its all the same religion. Just never met anyone that thinks like that. How does she reconcile some of them saying jesus is just a man and some saying he was a god/demigod?

Given we dont know jesus even existed how does she know who he is if not through a particular church? Was it revealed to her?
Why does she even bother with churches if they are irrelevant to getting into heaven?
I assume she thinks she gets her morality from god, how does she do this if not via the priest, and thus her morality changes as she changes church?
I appreciate you dont necessarily have those answers.

mummyhaschangedhername · 08/04/2018 23:19

I've know lots of people who have switched and changed religions, I think often they join a faith they like but as time goes on they have questions that can't be answered by that faith and move on. I don't find anything particularly odd about it really.

I just want to jump on some points that were raised that aren't right, because Mormonism is weird enough without another people's added ideas.

Mormons don't believe Jesus was a prophet, someone seemed to indicate that's what they believed, they don't, they believe he is the literal son of God, his first born in fact. They do believe in prophets.

They also don't believe that one person can get their entire family to heaven, they believe that all men are responsible for their own salivation, and that through the grace of god all mankind can be saved by living the commandments of God.

Mormons follow Jesus and the bible like other Christian like faiths, except they don't believe that God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost are one entity.

mummyhaschangedhername · 08/04/2018 23:26

Oh, and as for it being a cult because it follows man, it follows the teachings of God, it's called "the church of JESUS CHRIST" and follows the bible and it is "led by" a prophet much like the catholic faith is led by a pope. Or a congregation is led by a minster, bishop, vicer etc. It doesn't follow Joseph Smith, least not anymore than it follows Moses. If you define devotion to God or Jesus as a cult then yes it is, but then so is every religion in existence.

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