I think people should be careful doing Reiki

[lottieandmia22]

This post assumes a belief in spirituality so I'm not interested in debating that specifically. If you want to please start your own thread.

From what I can see, reiki is channeling occult energy through people's bodies and is therefore potentially risky. It seems to me that new age practitioners will repeatedly say they don't believe in malevolent entities but I think this is naive.

One of my friends told me that his dad was never the same after he became involved with reiki.

And also nearly everyone I've met who has done it was told by the reiki practitioner that they are 'special' have a 'gift' or could easily become a reiki master.

Yes. You seem to be confusing "understanding why people thought something before we knew better" with "thinking an idea has some merit".

Yes, people used to think thatbad odours caused disease. Now we know there is no truth in that. People used to think that homeopathy worked, now we know there is no truth to that.
There is no nuance to it. It is simply wrong.

With homeopathy, I found this interesting,

hpathy.com/scientific-research/theory-quantum-physics-potentisation-homeopathic-medicine/

However, although I understand how the process of homeopathic succussion relates to Bohr's theories whether what the author is proposing is true, is simply unproven.

I think we are talking at cross purposes. In my view, because it is understandable why people have thought these things, they are not completely wrong. They are partially wrong and partially correct. Which means there is some merit in their ideas.

Yes, people used to think thatbad odours caused disease. Now we know there is no truth in that.

But bad odours can signify harmful bacteria which can make people very ill indeed. Although bad odours do not cause disease per se, there is some merit in the thinking behind this belief.

There is some research being done regarding 'smelling disease' too. Eg,

sciencenetlinks.com/science-news/science-updates/smelling-diseases/

almost.thedoctorschannel.com/can-smell-diseases-interesting-correlation-illness-odor/

However, although I understand how the process of homeopathic succussion relates to Bohr's theories whether what the author is proposing is true, is simply unproven

NO. For the thousandth time, it is not UNPROVEN, it IS DISPROVEN. By the laws of physics.
This is really simple, basic stuff. Should you be talking about this at all when you can't understand something so obvious?

Should you cant?

Should you cant? What original scientific research paper actually says disproven? Show me and what you are saying might come across as credible instead of just plain rude.

“In my view, because it is understandable why people have thought these things, they are not completely wrong.”

Wooohh!

So, because the world looks flat if you stand on a beach and look out at the horizon, it’s understandable why some people thought it was flat it is actually a bit flat....?

Bertrand It is contextual. You take a small bit of land and yes, to all intents and purposes, you can call it flat. It is not wrong to do so. Even though the earth, as a whole, is spherical.

Just as people can call a drawing 2D when in fact it is actually 3D, if viewed microscopically, as the art material deposited has depth.

Your confidence in your knowledge of other people's motivation and thought processes is breathtaking. Your posts are very telling.

Should you cant? What original scientific research paper actually says disproven? Show me and what you are saying might come across as credible instead of just plain rude

We don't scientific research, we have basic knowledge, and eyes and ears and logic.

If I told you I was 100% sure that where I live the skies are green and it rains diamonds, would you need original scientific research to tell me that I am wrong? Or would you be able to tell, using your own knowledge of how the world is and how it works?

It's like that with homeopathy. We know it cannot work, just as we know that it does not rain diamonds from green skies.

But if you really have such little faith in your own ability to think, there is a wealth of proper studies to disprove it. Can you use google scholar or do you need some research to prove that exists?

Even if there was NO scientific research to suggest homeopathy is bollocks, anyone with a reasonably functioning brain should be able to work out that a drop of something diluted in homeopathic quantities is going to do nothing.

If I told you I was 100% sure that where I live the skies are green and it rains diamonds, would you need original scientific research to tell me that I am wrong? Or would you be able to tell, using your own knowledge of how the world is and how it works?

If I believed you were serious, I would investigate. How you perceive colour. Any sky phenomenon, such as the Northern Lights. The nature of what you describe as 'diamonds'.

Tbh I was I'd prefer that over your apparent current attitude, cant. Sounds rather beautiful and poetic. Instead of bossy, scathing, pretty rude and unkind.

We don't scientific research, we have basic knowledge, and eyes and ears and logic.

cant, thought so. That about sums it up really....

You'd investigate to see if the sky is green and it rains diamonds?

Ok, I thought you were serious up to this point. Well done mags, that is some epic trolling. you totally stayed in character the whole way through! Impressive.
Fraid you jumped the shark on that one though.

But if you really have such little faith in your own ability to think

I have faith and I have been happily thinking throughout my whole life. Can a person actually be alive without thinking?

But if you really have such little faith in your own ability to think

I have faith and I have been happily thinking throughout my whole life. Can a person actually be alive without thinking?

But if you really have such little faith in your own ability to think

I have faith and I have been happily thinking throughout my whole life. Can a person actually be alive without thinking?

Happily, perhaps. Deeply, clearly not.

And yes, they can. Obviously.

I think 'deeply'. But since you are, supposedly, of such scientific mindset, cant, in what quantifiable or even qualifyable way do you measure 'deepness' of thought?

Well for a start, anyone who thinks there is any merit at all in homeopathy or that people can't be alive if they don't think is not a deep thinker, are they?

Bu come now, drop the act. You overplayed your hand!

Well for a start, anyone who thinks there is any merit at all in homeopathy or that people can't be alive if they don't think is not a deep thinker, are they?

Bu come now, drop the act. You overplayed your hand!

Well for a start, anyone who thinks there is any merit at all in homeopathy or that people can't be alive if they don't think is not a deep thinker, are they?

Bu come now, drop the act. You overplayed your hand!

Interesting. You don't think much of Descartes, then?

Or Charles Darwin? It has been reported that he used homeopathy.