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Scottish Catholics - help me out with all the differences please!

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figleaf · 08/03/2007 16:37

Not long moved to Alloa from Bristol. At Mass every one stands/sits/kneels at different times England. The Mass is slightly different too. Can anyone tell me why and point me to a Scottish version of the Sunday Missal. Thanks

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figleaf · 08/03/2007 16:53

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beckybrastraps · 08/03/2007 16:57

No idea. I used to live in Edinburgh and never noticed any difference as far as I can remember. Sorry.

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figleaf · 08/03/2007 17:02

I`ve found myself the oly person standing or kneeling at various points - very embarrasing!

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purplemonkeydishwasher · 08/03/2007 17:02

There should be a sunday missal at the mass that you can use (there is in our church anyway, as you walk in) I need one all the time because the Scottish Mass is completely different to the Canadian Mass I grew up with. I don't even know the creed here!!

beckybrastraps · 08/03/2007 17:07

There is a different creed in Canada?

(And you can surely get a missal at church figleaf?)

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figleaf · 08/03/2007 17:18

Actually becky that is head smackingly obvious isn`t it

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figleaf · 08/03/2007 17:19

I mean buying the Missal not the Canadian creed b.t.w.

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purplemonkeydishwasher · 08/03/2007 18:02

well it's not a canadian creed per se!
it's just a different one. ie. the nicene creed v the apostles creed. just different words but same message IYSWIM.

Aimsmum · 08/03/2007 18:07

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beckybrastraps · 08/03/2007 18:10

Ah - we used to occasionally do the Apostles Creed, and Hail Holy Queen rather than Hail Mary. Just to keep us on our toes...

Ceolas · 08/03/2007 18:10

IKWYM. I find that even between parishes here there is sometimes a difference. All I can suggest is wait for everyone else to move first!

How are the schools working out btw?

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figleaf · 08/03/2007 19:33

We place requested a non denominational school for both boys as the local RC school was pants and the local N-D school even worse. I think it is working out ok thanks. I just wish a few of the Mums would chat to me a bit. I`m pinning my hopes on the nicer wheather coming and chilling everyone out.

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Ceolas · 08/03/2007 20:57

Glad it's working out.

I think the nicer weather does make a difference to everyone's spirits. Just smile sweetly and someone's bound to chat to you

AitchYouBerk · 08/03/2007 20:59

oh i remember that from when we used to go on holiday, we'd all be standing up and sitting down at the wrong bits. my dad was rock hard though and never gave in.

purplemonkeydishwasher · 09/03/2007 08:40

figleaf - how old are your LOs?
I'm in Falkirk so not that far away!

WaynettaSlob · 09/03/2007 08:43

Can't help on the differences between England and Scotland, but the Irish and English Masses contain the same words, but different standing /kneeling/sitting times.
Strange isn't it!

Judy1234 · 09/03/2007 08:58

I've been to mass in Scotland on holiday and I don't remember it being that different. May be a bit of different standing up not kneeling at points, but it was the same mass. I expect churches have some ability to choose so it might be you just picked a church which does things a bit differently.

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figleaf · 09/03/2007 11:11

Thanks Ceolas.

The words are basically the same Xenia, there are bits missed out, especially at the beginning but the standing kneeling sitting parts are very different. Perhaps more like the situation Waynettaslob experienced. I`m not as hard as your Dad AitchYouBerk - I tend to go red.

Purplemonkeydishwasher (long name!!!) My boys are 5 (in P1) and 9 (in P5). Falkirk v.close

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purplemonkeydishwasher · 09/03/2007 11:28

my ds is 17mo - so no playdates! but i'm a SAHM if you ever want to meet for coffee or something. (and don't mind a whinging toddler!!)

if you are on MSN my email is purplemonkey22 at hotmail dot co dot uk

gscrym · 09/03/2007 11:35

Figleaf, I'm near Falkirk. My DS is 4 and although I know nothing about the Catholic church and mass, I am more than happy to discuss rituals involved in cake eating and tea drinking .

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figleaf · 09/03/2007 12:58

Thanks ladies. Have either of you got a dog. I`m thinking dog walk/coffe. I do like toddlers, even crying ones. Makes me want another but being preg didnt sit well with me.

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purplemonkeydishwasher · 09/03/2007 13:17

i've got a dog! whgat kind have you got?
ours is a black lab/staffie, male 4 yrs. and a bit of a jerk! lol

gscrym · 09/03/2007 13:18

I've got one too. A fat butted lurcher who has way too much of a penchant for donner kebabs.

DumbledoresGirl · 09/03/2007 13:22

I am shocked. I thought the whole point about the Mass was that it was the same wherever you were. I haven't hd any experience of a Scottish Mass, but I have experienced Masses from many other part of Europe, and I have never noticed any difference!

purplemonkeydishwasher · 09/03/2007 13:29

they are basically the same, DG. But there are small regional/cultural differences.
for example: mass at the church my parents go to is very relaxed. the congregation is in a semi-circle of pews and the alter is in the middle (which means that you are staring directly at other people through the whole thing. (no secret picking noses or sleeping!) and the priest encourages people to say the whole lord's prayer rather than stopping for the middle bit. he does that after (THAT messes up other priests when they come to fill in!)

MY DH says that the church in scotland is very traditional because of the rift between RC and CofS. IN canada there is little to no kneeling. but agian that depends on the church to go to.