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Meditation

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baldrick · 28/05/2004 17:52

feeling the need to totally chill tonight, work, work, children...have so much to do but want to do nothing...meditation ...anyone want to join me

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melsy · 28/05/2004 19:35

ooohh my fave (apart from bags) new shoes, wot they like?? !!

papillon · 28/05/2004 19:38

They are drScholls

transparent hot pink baby!!!

and some jandals... flip flops in your lingo... silver and white

baldrick · 28/05/2004 19:43

ah ha Melsy, was watching TV and admiring lilac sheet thing! yes it was of course....have made such wabes tonite, that dh has not only taken ds to Youth Club (with dd in tow), he has just left with her to pick him up and he is ordering and paying for a takeaway/wine tonight (perhaps I should snap more often)....feeling chilled as noone but Mumsnet here (please do tell tales of Melsy dh when you feel like it),...(long again sorry)

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baldrick · 28/05/2004 19:45

too many of these things, how about a few to make up for them (feeling daft)...will be trying the meditation a little later

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shrub · 28/05/2004 20:06

i agree with katierocket transcendental meditation definately works for me. you are not suppose to divulge how it works (sign a disclaimer)i don't know what would happen if they did find out (send maharishi man to tell me off) but in a nutshell it involves the following:
1.quiet space guaranteed not to be interuppted (yes - i did tell the teacher this could be tricky with children)
2.i go to bed and propped up, lots of pillows and duvet wrapped around me - close eyes, earplugs if necessary, though the point is once you get the hang of it you 'tune' out of outside sounds.
3.allow yourself to listen to all the outside sounds, gradually drawing yourself into the sound of your breathing.
4.if and when you get distracted by a thought allow it to happen - just let them flow in and out of you.
5.gradually let the breathing take over. again when a thought occurs - return to the breath.
6. choose a mantra, can be anything preferably a made up short word so the only association you have with the word is to let it help you sink deeper into your meditation.
7.just let the mantra flow in and out of your head, not important whether it follows a rhythm.again if thoughts overtake you just return to the mantra.
8.try this for 20 mins twice a day. allow yourself a few mins (if poss.) to slowly come out of meditation.
9. if you get distracted - children, door, telephone - very slowly come out of meditation and try again later.
thats it! i knew it began to work when i had a sort of euphoric feeling - a bit like falling in love/flying! you have to be very disciplined to use it to its full potential (yogic flying anyone??) though i can definately say it has given me a healthy distance from my emotions/feelings/events when they would normally overwhelm me - plus more energy, though i have to admit with 2 ds's i tend to use it as a sleep aid. it cost me £500 3 years ago which has been the best money i have ever spent. i have talked to other mumsnetters about tm and one said it now costs £1500 to go on 3 day course (consists of 2-3 hours per day usually in the evenings). there is also a company that is called (i think) the independent transcendental meditation org) they have no connection to the maharishi bloke and charge in region of £250. the only reason i know this is there is a course happening next week in devon that was advertised in my local paper. i would personally go on a course as it gives you the motivation to continue. hope it helps

gothicmama · 28/05/2004 20:32

IME there is very ltlle difference in all the named meditations it meerly finding the one that you feel comfortable with and finding your own 'rituals' to help you achieve a state of peace and calm I have been meditating for years an dhave now mastered how I can meditate best but hav eofund different techniwques work fo rdifferent stresses Baldrick are you just wanting to chill and have time to yourself or are you meditating on a problem

baldrick · 28/05/2004 22:01

gothicmama, chilling and trying to totally relax away from it all, thanks

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papillon · 29/05/2004 07:46

how shrub I thought transcendental meditation was sitting under a pyramid!!

ear plugs to block noises sounds good... don´t know why they won´t tell anybody the secrets without paying.. I agree with Gothicmama... just sounds like regular meditation to me... I often find bed a good place to mediate

Actually for me i find concentrating on my body.. ensuring that all the muscles are relaxed helps focus and relaxation - I use the Alexander Technique for this... very beneficial for fixing aches and pains

gothicmama · 29/05/2004 15:48

Did you have anice evening Baldrick and anyone else.Did you try any of techniques or just what you felt was right for you

baldrick · 29/05/2004 17:12

Hi gothicmama, didn't actually as got slightly drunk and ended up having an arguement with dh about how I was being secretive by being on Mumsnet...I blew up and ended crashing out in a drunken stupper(can't spell).....however I did read the long and very interesting piece by Shrub (thanks for that), about how to meditate, and am trying to print it out now so I can practise it on a regular basis...will let you know how I get on, thanks for asking btw(dh's need to know Mumsnet is part of daily routine).

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papillon · 29/05/2004 19:47

This room must be an extension of our virtual home!

We can all come here to swap meditation tips - wadda ya all think?

but booze and meditation Baldrick... tut tut - would be hard to close your eyes.. I would be swimming and lurching all over the place..
maybe the trancedental wrap up in the duvet would be necessary

baldrick · 29/05/2004 22:13

am stilltrying toprint this page and I agree papillon,booze and meditation don't go well,once get it printed I will start....why doesn't your dp/dh get funny with you going on mumsnet somuch? I mean is it fair that second night on trot dh has got flippin mean (to the point of rippin it out of the phone socket and pushing me to the ground....all water under the bridge now though...is he thick???????).

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hercules · 29/05/2004 22:14

Baldrick. I dont know what to say. I hope you are okay!!

baldrick · 29/05/2004 22:19

am fine now thanks hercules it's just that I get on mumsnet and dh hates it and if I argue/stand my ground and tell him off for drinking at 8.30am every w/e he thinks am being unreasonable...I cannne win,,,he's calm now but don't like him giving me ahard time about mumsnet (it's my lifeline...it really is)

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hercules · 29/05/2004 22:20

Well I know things have been tough before but please do have it as your lifeline.

baldrick · 29/05/2004 22:28

thanks love

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gothicmama · 29/05/2004 22:34

Baldrick thinking of you here's a quick visulisation :
imagine you are some where peaceful you looking at the clouds floating a cross the sky nearby is a red hot air balloon and basket into this basket you are encouraged to put in all yuor troubles when you have put them all in the balloon magically lifts up an dyou watch it float higher and higher off into the clouds and you wave good bye to your troubles.
Hope this helps you get started best not done after a drink unless tea take care

baldrick · 29/05/2004 22:38

just had a cup of tea and am off to bed NOW so will try this one in a few minutes, will let you know the results....many thanks

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papillon · 30/05/2004 09:07

Hope you had got some mediatation time in last night Baldrick

I wish you would change your name to Llavender or something... I liked it as well!

You husband needs to stop drinking all day... no wonder he pushes you around if he is boozing like that. If you did not drink just because you husband does, your kids will be happier and all your lives would be much better too.

I have an Aunt and Uncle who booze up every nite... I think it is really sad cause they are both very intelligent people. There are other ways to entertain oneself - and meditation is one of them.. so good for you for trying to find a new way to chill!

Perhaps with all the money you save from not drinking you could join a mediation class - or yoga... (they do meditation too)

muggle · 30/05/2004 13:45

Need to detox before I can meditate ... perhaps in a couple of days

papillon · 30/05/2004 14:36

detox for several days before you mediatate. Now Baldrick there is a challenge! Better add that to the print out

I am reading an Alexander Technique to ensure that all my muscles and limbs are putty b4 attempting serious naval contemplation.

dinny · 30/05/2004 15:12

Hello, can I ask something? Is meditation useful during labour? I try to meditate every night in the bath with candles but am finding it so hard to keep mind still and quiet. I attend yoga a couple of times a week and find it much easier to meditate in the class. Any tips on how to focus more at home and whether I can use meditation in labour. Thanks very much, Dinny x

shrub · 30/05/2004 19:55

dinny - i would say that yes meditation will help your labour - focus on the breath or a mantra.
baldrick - i also forgot to add that at the beginning of your first meditation you say the chosen word/mantra out loud then slowly make it quieter and quieter until its inside your head and from then on say the mantra inside your head -hope this makes sense.

shrub · 30/05/2004 19:59

dinny - also forgot to add that if your head is busy with thoughts/worries anticipate it and let them in at the beginning then slowly let the mantra/breath take over. when thoughts come in just return to your mantra/breath.

gothicmama · 03/06/2004 12:44

Baldrick are you around flower

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