The struggle for power

[papillon]

Hi All

This thread (and several others) are about us sharing and learning together on our spiritual journey. It is an open space for open minds, so please feel free to come and chat and share your thoughts/stories.

The main book we have been discussing is The Celestine Prophecies book by James Redfield.

We are now up to the 4th insight - the struggle for power

Sibble are you up to the 4th yet - or did you just skip the chapter Interested to hear if you have any more thoughts

I have been looking at this section again and am not sure if we have really looked at it. Well I guess speaking for myself I do not feel I have put alot of thought into the concepts behind this insight. Especially the mediatation. So I plan to do abit of that to see what lightbulbs appear!

I get the feeling that the 4th insight is working towards the 7th. Well it does to me, as I have read and experienced some to the 7th awhile back and they seem related imo. I guess it all stepping stones. So I will be thinking about that more too.

Well the sky here today is bright blue and gorgeous so we will be out making the most of it, as it is a religious public holiday here today - himmelfahrt or ausfahrt - I think ascension in English.

Have a good day paps

Im not sure how to get through this one , it seems quite alot to stop struggles for power, It is one of the hardest lessons to learn in life. I think meditating on it is a good idea, & then ask the higher self what we need to know.

I will have a look at the 7th again for the corellation.

Hi paps and melsy
I did read the 4th insight and have been VERY slowly working through the exercises in teh experiential guide. I think from here onwards it is hard to seperate teh insights and agree the 4th and the 7th are very much linked. I have been trying to look at different relationships and keep energy levels high by focusing on the here and now and environment rather than get drawn into 'dramas'. Having said that I have been feeling unwell so havn't put too much effort into it of late (have been reading posts but not posting as well...)
Maybe I'm deluding myself but I think I am pretty good at not drawing energy from others but still find it hard to know how to resolve the situation when others are blatantly acting out dramas or drawing energy from me....whether to address it or just let it pass, ignore it and move on...hard when they are in your life all the time does that make sense?
will post more when head in gear......

still not good Sibble - sorry to hear that - hope that you feel better soon

xx

Oh Sibble feel for you at the moment. Im sorry if I didnt help last night . I really hope you start to feel better soon.Sending healing thoughts your way.

I spoke to a friend today about the 4th insight and she told me of a nice ritual that her friend uses to cope with other peoples negative energy. She puts it all in a lovely gift box tied up with a pink ribbon and metaphorically hands it back to them !!!

Hey melsy, don't feel bad it was lovely to speak with you the other night. I just need to iron pills to kick in so I don't feel as though somebody has attached lead weights to my legs and I will be fine!!!!
I like the idea of handing back somebodies negative energy - we were taught something similar in one of my reiki courses. We were also taught to concentrate on teh outcome you would like with the person before you go to sleep, then, if you can, work through it until you get the resolution you would like and in the morning you should wake feeling resolved and at peace with the person....
Great in theory and I have done it but problem with being an indecisive libran is that I keep wanting to change the scenario as I go through so it takes forever or I end up not happy because the person has been known to argue back - counter productive I think!!!!!!
Am now looking forward to a semi relaxing weekend, stretch class this morning, DS has a little friend coming to play this afternoon then tomorrow if the weather is nice, fish and chip early supper on teh beach with friends and their children.... hope you enjoy yours.

Has it been over a week since weve been in here?? I hope your doing better Sibble , hows the iron kicking in ??? I liked what you said about giving back the negative energy !! Same as me LOL with wanting to change the scenario all the time!!!

Im not sure we're ready yet to move on from this, but i feel this insight may be is the one of hardest to get through as it means MAJOR MAJOR transformation in behaviour which can take quite a long time.

I quite like the next one as it is "message of the mystics". Does anyone think you can become completely self actualized through this or will it be a journey we go on and over several times. Not qute sure what Im saying , its just that I know I need to do more work on this 4th insight & seems to be my stumbling block ,but we may end up being on it for months to come. How does everyone feel ?? My gut is saying move forward but theres part that needs to hang back ---- not sure what it is?? May be there are some more messages for me here??