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Welcome to muslim tea room 2.

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defuse · 30/12/2013 22:18

Peace to you all Smile

Ok, well here it is again...we have moved to room 2 now Grin

Discuss whatever aspect of islam you like my lovely sisters - this is a place for muslims and non-muslims too, to share experiences, raising kids or just having your say! Smile

The kettle is on.... We have loads of herbal teas, coffee and guava juice .... I like guava juice Grin so welcome! Smile

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sammythemummy · 03/07/2014 20:39

Hey autmunsmum that's amazing for you DP.

I would jut cook a normal meal that you would have for dinner and maybe have some fruit or lemonade for him as it's really refreshing.

sammythemummy · 03/07/2014 20:39

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autumnsmum · 03/07/2014 21:27

Thank you for all the brilliant advice it's really appreciated

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sammythemummy · 04/07/2014 20:27

Salaam sisters,

I've never asked for people to make dua for me but please Pray to Aallah swt that the school we are liasing with accepts our offer...I don't want to go into it too much but it's very much needed.

fuzzywuzzy · 05/07/2014 15:49

May Allah grant you and your family what is the best in this life and the hereafter sis.

mum786 · 06/07/2014 13:37

Salaam Aleikum sisters.
I hope I'm not making a mistake by posting this here but I didn't know where to go ( I'm very new!)
I am selling very gorgeous, Kaftans and Abayas.
Thinking of using Ebay and Amazon- can anyone advise me if this is wise?
Thank you

Miffyfan · 07/07/2014 20:34

How is everyone's fasting going?

greeneggsandjam · 07/07/2014 23:38

Salam

Can I ask how you are all managing for sleep this Ramadan? I feel I am struggling. Specifically to those people who have to work I think, how are you managing? Some days like today I have struggled due to tiredness. Im out of the house before 8 and didn't get home til about 6. I slept between around 7 and 8 but woke up worn out and somehow put some food together. By the time you eat and wash up , pray etc its 10 pm then Isha comes round very quickly. I would easily fall asleep right now but I know I would not get up for suhoor and fajr due to being so tired. What to do! Youngest child is having a great time on all the electrical gadgets while I drift off!!!

BettyButter · 07/07/2014 23:59

Salam Sisters.
Salam Greeneggs! Lovely to see you here! I can't really answer your question as I work from home and I'm very lucky that I'm able to squeeze in an hour or hour and a half nap, which I feel dreadful when I wake up! But I think it gets me through till fajr, I sometimes have half an hour before suhoor just on the couch and DH wakes me.

I was thinking about you all tonight whilst I was reading Juz 9, I felt so moved by it and wanted to tell someone... Who else than the lovely tearoom sisters Wink particularly this

'And remember when your lord brought forth from the children of Adam from their loins, their seed and made them testify as to themselves "am I not your lord?" They said "yes we testify" lest you should say on the day of resurrection "verily we have been unaware of this" (7.172)

I think it's the first time I've understood it fully, made me realise the full extent of being a revert and also heartbroken for my family Sad

Im really enjoying reading after Isha each night so I'm worrying about catching up after my period, do you think if DH holds the Quran and turns the pages it's ok to read it out loud?

Elusive · 08/07/2014 00:32

Salaam all.

Lovely to see new people on the board.

mum786 i do look at abayas on ebay, so I would say its a good place to sell inshallah.

miffyfan alhamdulillah, you get into a routine Smile
greeneggs sleep deprivation is probably tougher than the fast this ramadan. No tips i'm afraid, napping an hour or so doesnt help either does it! I was wondering about Eid morning and how we are going to manage Eid morning prep. I bet most people will sleep after Eid prayer and breakfast Grin
ehric i went looking for spaghettini for harira but no luck. I shall try again tomorrow. Am excited about cooking it! Will passata be any good or does it have to be the puree thicker stuff?
autumn our iftar food has become much simpler already. Today was biryani and fruit salad for dessert.
sammy i have made dua for you sis.
betty the verses can raise the hairs on the back of your neck cant they subhanallah. Make dua for your family that Allah opens their hearts inshallah.

Elusive · 08/07/2014 00:37

betty i am not sure about reciting quran without touching pages whilst on menses. Hope someone else can shed light on this.

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 08/07/2014 03:16

Hi elusive
I think you could make it with passata but ime purée has a richer flavour and is more authentic to how my mil's tastes! I have made it before with regular spaghetti broken into bits or minestrone pasta but the spaghettini is also more authentic!

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mum786 · 08/07/2014 13:56

Salaam aleikum sisters. (Elusive and Crescentmoon) Just to say thank you for your answers (tips) on the kaftans/abayas.
Really appreciate it.

Miffyfan · 08/07/2014 17:15

Thank you for the lovely welcome crescentmoon Alhamdulillah my fasting is going well. Get tired at some points but manage to keep going.

greeneggs I have been having power naps for 20 minutes each day which really help, I have found a quiet room at work. Give it a try

Ten days will be over day so a third of a Ramadhan already over!

peacefuloptimist · 09/07/2014 23:42

Salamalaykum ladies and belated Grin

How are things with you all. You have been in my thoughts and duas (not anyone specific more like the whole tea thread crew). I have delayed coming back on the thread as I have been trying to get all my ramadan prep done and two one week in I have finally managed to get it done. Blush. I have my meal plan on the fridge which I strike out meals from daily. I have my slow cooker which has been making life easier for me, bubbling away creating our iftars so I can pass out I wish after work. I have done a half deep clean of my house (managed kitchen and bathroom) and I finished putting up my Ramadhan decorations this week which my ds promptly ripped down. Sad Im exhausted and I havent even fasted one day yet. I decided in the end not to fast due to pregnancy though I received some heavy duty pressure I stuck to my guns. Basically I said do you think I am getting sins because I am not fasting 19-20 hour days when I am pregnant? Also if you can write down and guarantee for me that nothing will happen to mine or my baby's health because of fasting and that it will be no harder for me to fast then it would be for someone who is not pregnant I will fast? I should have just shrugged it off but Im too combative even in the month of Ramadhan. Astagfirullah. I hate criticism which is a big flaw in my character I need to fight as I should learn to just ignore and be calm and patient instead.

Mashallah Im really impressed with the sisters managing to get so much Quran reading in. I havent managed to do as much as I would have liked. Its all this faffing around with other non important things. I cant believe 10 days have gone by. Eek! Im hoping I can pull it back now and make this more productive for me spiritually. This is the problem I find when you dont fast during Ramadhan. Its hard to tap in to that spiritual buzz. We are not going to taraweeh either because of how late it is, ds's bedtime and work. Has anyone managed to do taraweeh this month? What do you do with your kids, take them with you? Are most people doing suhoor at 1am or at 3am. Sehri ends at just past 3am where I am but I know some people are doing it at 1am. I cant understand how that works though and why there is a difference. Can anyone explain how fajr can possibly be at 1am in the morning? Isnt suhoor supposed to finish when fajr starts? Greeneggs most of my relatives and my dh are having early evening naps (6-7pm). Its not that easy if your making iftar though or having to put little ones to bed around that time.

Is it too early to ask if anyone has sorted out their eid outfit yet? Blush Im really derailing the religious vibe on the thread arent I? Sorry sisters. To bring it back Im going to suggest for the rest of Ramadhan we take turns to post hadiths about any topic we like. We could do our own tearoom version of the 40 hadith. Mumsnet's favourite hadiths or something Grin. I will start.

On the authority of Abu Dharr al-Ghifaree (may Allah be pleased with him) from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) from his Lord, that He said:

"Oh My servants! I have forbidden dhulm (oppression) for Myself, and I have made it forbidden amongst you, so do not oppress one another. Oh My servants, all of you are astray except those whom I have guided, so seek guidance from Me and I shall guide you. Oh My servants, all of of you are hungry except those whom I have fed, so seek food from Me and I shall feed you. Oh My servants, all of you are naked except those whom I have clothed, so seek clothing from Me and I shall clothe you. Oh My servants, you commit sins by day and by night, and I forgive all sins, so seek forgiveness from Me and I shall forgive you. Oh My servants, you will not attain harming Me so as to harm Me, and you will not attain benefiting Me so as to benefit Me. Oh My servants, if the first of you and the last of you, and the humans of you and the jinn of you, were all as pious as the most pious heart of any individual amongst you, then this would not increase My Kingdom an iota. Oh My servants, if the first of you and the last of you, and the humans of you and the jinn of you, were all as wicked as the most wicked heart of any individual amongst you, then this would not decrease My Kingdom an iota. Oh My servants, if the first of you and the last of you, and the humans of you and the jinn of you, were all to stand together in one place and ask of Me, and I were to give everyone what he requested, then that would not decrease what I Possess, except what is decreased of the ocean when a needle is dipped into it. Oh My servants, it is but your deeds that I account for you, and then recompense you for. So he who finds good, let him praise Allah, and he who finds other than that, let him blame no one but himself. [Muslim]

Miffyfan · 10/07/2014 08:24

Assalam alaikum peaceful have you seen this

ramadanfastingandpregnancy.wordpress.com

Somebody else posted it previously but it may help you decide about fasting while pregnant. There is growing research that fasting causes no harm when pregnant. There are studies there you can look at. Women have fasted at 35 weeks with no harm

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littleducks · 10/07/2014 10:42

Interesting link.

I also think the pressure put upon women is unfair. I'm breastfeeding this year and have been told I should fast and mustn't fast by different people. Usually with long explanations supporting their argument.

I have fasted some so far but baby has been unwell and totally off solids so I stopped. I also now think I have a chest infection (caught from baby) myself. I will restart when he is eating more and seems better.

These fasts are very long and I have just not been able to drink all night as I did with my other over children (when fasting fell in the autumn) as the night is only a few hours.

Having a qadha hanging over you is not something I take lightly (I have all of last years as I was ill in pregnancy and it feels like a heavy burden at times). But I try and focus on all the blessings you get for breastfeeding!

Maybe things would be different If I lived with extended family so had someone to watch the children while I napped all day or where school was on holiday. But my attempts to get the children to sleep in the day in previous years when it was in the holidays led to overtired children who did stay up at night but then did not sleep in the day. So Maybe not!

Alhamdillilah, Allah

Miffyfan · 10/07/2014 11:35

Effects of Ramadan fasting on pregnancy

Fiona Cross-Sudworth

British Journal of Midwifery, Vol. 15, Iss. 2, 01 Feb 2007, pp 79 - 81

Pregnant women fasting in Ramadan is sometimes an emotive and controversial subject for Muslims. It would appear that most health care professionals advise against fasting during pregnancy. However in the light of available research, Ramadan fasting has no long term effects on normal healthy mothers or their full term offspring.

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 10/07/2014 13:10

I'm sure fasting has no effect on babies but pregnancy is hard enough without it. I couldn't do it, and since there is acknowledgement of this I can't understand why you would push yourself to do it if it makes you feel unwell. I know women who do it and feel fine which is great, but I know for me it would have made me feel very unwell and miserable.

Softysoftlycatchymonkey · 10/07/2014 13:19

Hello all, I feel a bit like a peeping tom so I'm going to wave and say hi!

I think this thread is wonderful and insightful.

littleducks · 10/07/2014 14:14

Apologies last part of post was meant to be Allah (swt) knows best

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