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hideous hymns, vocal vicars and theatrical thuribles. Religious Chat Thread Number 6!

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nickelbabe · 17/02/2013 19:24

Welcome to the Religion Chat thread.
We're mostly Christians, but all are welcome.
a lovely soace to talk about church life, spiritual journeys and stuff in general.
It's not about debate, it's about chat.
Come oldies and newbies!

this is the previous thread

OP posts:
Dutchoma · 17/05/2013 16:35

How can they do that Niminy? That's just cruel and horrible. And that is church people? No wonder you are down.

Bluetinkerbell · 17/05/2013 16:45

Oh no! :(

niminypiminy · 17/05/2013 18:09

Thank you -- I keep wondering if God's trying to tell me something Sad Sad Sad

niminypiminy · 17/05/2013 19:02

Just had an email inviting me to order the new GK album ... 'join Graham and friends as they collaborate on fresh, organic worship'. Well, ladies, d'you think I should go for it Wink Grin?

Dutchoma · 17/05/2013 19:44

If you like... Wouldn't be my cup of tea, but 'organic' has to be good, hasn't it?

UniqueAndAmazing · 17/05/2013 22:28

ninimy the email was clearly to cheer you upand make you laugh after your bap news.
you aren't supposed to act on it Grin

UniqueAndAmazing · 17/05/2013 22:30

wanna hear mynews?
Wink

niminypiminy · 17/05/2013 22:41

Yes! (as long as you're having a well known worship song writer round for tea)

Tell!

niminypiminy · 17/05/2013 22:54

I mean not having him to tea!

UniqueAndAmazing · 17/05/2013 23:31
Grin yes, he's my best friend.

nvwnb is here!
he was born yesterday. no name yet but was born at a whopping 8lb12oz! Shock
CW said nvw is staying in hospital for a couple of days but doesn't think tgere were any problems.and only 3 days OD!

SESthebrave · 18/05/2013 06:54

Ooh congrats to nv and nvw on nvwnb :)

Niminy - what Nickel said Grin I have to say I'd be put off by the organic description.

Have any of you nice wkend plans? I'm working this morning and then taking DS to see Chris & Pui's show. We went last year and he loved it. He's very excited to go again (and so am I!)

niminypiminy · 18/05/2013 07:03

Ooh Nickel that's lovely news about the baby!

Yes, the fresh organic worship is just urghsome.

We met Chris a couple of years ago he was doing a children's concert with our local music society he was fantastic! -- and afterwards we met him in the foyer and he gave DS2 (who was a big fan of Show Me Show Me) his autograph. He was very charming.

KatyDid02 · 18/05/2013 07:08

We've just drifted away from church, somewhat reluctantly but less so now. I have to confess to not being entirely happy about that state of affairs but I was drifting away myself and then my youngest drifted away so it ended up with none of us going.

Right now I'm not keen to take up church going again having been really put off it, I'm missing the people there but it's not a reason to go really is it?

Dutchoma · 18/05/2013 09:53

What made you 'drift' Katy? Apart from youngest child not wanting to go? Just make sure that you realise God loves you, whether you go to church or not.

Congratulations on nvwnb, to nv and nvw. Lovely news.

UniqueAndAmazing · 18/05/2013 15:02

Katy - sometimes it's hard to go back when you've been away a while, like you think you'll be judged.
but you don't have to tell anyone your story.
if you just make up your mind to go, and go, you might find it easier than you thought :)

you don't necessarily have to go with your family, but worth asking if they want to go with you.

UniqueAndAmazing · 18/05/2013 15:04

ah, i'm jealous that she only went 3 days over!
Grin
(she was really relaxed about it, though, so she didn't care)

i think they're both quite hippyish, so I hope that it flowed into her birth and she had an easy time (unlike me, who spends far too much time overthinking things)
we would have been told if it was hard, wouldn't we? so we could pray for them?
NV did the wednesday morning communion, so it can't have been that long.

UniqueAndAmazing · 18/05/2013 15:05

now i need some fun/lovely/thoughtful/cute/useful links that i can email her to look at while she's laid up in bed (doing nothing but feeding the baby and sleeping like she's been told!)

KatyDid02 · 18/05/2013 15:32

Dutch and Unique, I don't know really. My faith got stronger for a while, then waned somewhat. I set off for church the other week and just didn't want to go; the last time I went I really did not want to be there. I really miss some of the people from there but maybe it's time to find a new church.

UniqueAndAmazing · 18/05/2013 15:34

maybe.
it could be the church, it could be you, it could be the people.

maybe try another church one week and see if you feel better :)

Tuo · 18/05/2013 15:45

Congratulations to NV and NVW on NVWNB... Grin!

And (((niminy))) - hope you're feeling OK about everything today and have lots of lovely GK CDs to listen to fun things planned for today.

Katy - I think that any reason is good enough to go, tbqh. I started going (after a veeeeeeeery long - like, 25 years or so! - break) for 'all the wrong reasons', at least ostensibly. But I also knew, in a very deep buried place, that it was something I wanted to do, something I felt drawn to. I didn't have a Road-to-Damascus moment or anything, but things started to makes sense to me, and to 'feel right'. I couldn't tell you at what point exactly I fell off the fence (I won't say 'got off' because it was absolutely not a conscious decision) in a faithwardly direction, but that first sceptical step back was nearly three years ago now, and here I still am - more convinced with each day that passes that it was the right thing to do, and happier too. So, if you go back for the people, that's a start... and it might not be the right thing for you now, but it might be, and you won't know till you try it.

Alternatively, can you put your finger on what it was for you that was putting you off and that you weren't entirely happy about? Would a different church (either a different place within the same denomination, or a different denomination altogether) be better?

I don't want the above to sound 'pushy' - and, after all, I can hardly speak, having sat on the fence for more than half my life. It may be that this isn't the right time for you. Whatever you decide, do come and say hello on this thread if you feel like it. We're all nice, and fairly normal. Wink

Tuo · 18/05/2013 15:46

Cross-posted with you (and everyone) Katy. Hope it works out for you.

KatyDid02 · 18/05/2013 17:50

Thanks :) Tuo, it's pretty comfortable on the fence so I think plenty of us sit on it from time to time.

We have options of different churches, I was wondering about trying the Sally Army church or the Baptist church but my youngest, despite not wanting to go to church at the moment, wants to stick with our current church. He goes to a club at the Baptist church so has been to some services there but the Sally Army church is a new one to him apart from knowing that a teacher he likes goes there.

I like the look of this thread, if I can stick around that'd be good :) Bit worried about you all being normal though, not sure I will fit in Grin

Dutchoma · 18/05/2013 19:41

We're not THAT normal Katy Grin Do stick around

Italiangreyhound · 19/05/2013 12:10

Hi guys, sorry I introduced myself yonkes ago and then kept forgetting to check back and say hello.

Niminypiminy (meant to ask you where that name comes from - it is fab!) so sorry about the BAP. If you gget it wouldl you do training? Is it pioneer ministry or parish ministry that lights your fire?

UniqueAndAmazing congratulations on nvwnb - althouogh I don't know what that means??

Katy - you said Right now I'm not keen to take up church going again having been really put off it, I'm missing the people there but it's not a reason to go really is it? Just my personal opinion but any reason to go that is loving is good! And echo what I Dutchoma said. And agree with Tuo, I went years ago because I fancied this bloke....!

UniqueAndAmazing · 19/05/2013 21:54

italian - bless you Grin
nvwnb is new vicar and wife's new baby.
(nv is new vicar, nvw is new vicar's wife( who is also curate, now on maternity leave)
Grin