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To just go to a jehovahs witness meeting?

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blobtobetter · 07/04/2012 21:05

One of the older women at work is a Jehovah's Witness. I don't really know what they are but they don't like blood or birthdays. I thought they were just another type of Christian but apparently not.

She keeps asking me to go to a meeting and I keep putting her off. Thinking now that I should just go once and then never again!?

It sounds really shallow but I wouldn't want to give up Christmas!!

Part of me wonders what it would be like. Would they be over friendly? Would they be distant as I am a heathen type? Can't imagine it really.

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WhiteShores · 09/04/2012 18:25

The elders are just normal male JWs who have a slightly higher degree of formal responsibility and authority when it comes to the running of the congregation.

They organise the meetings and preaching work, give talks and announcements from the Governing Body, and oversee disciplinary matters.

HerRoyalNotness · 09/04/2012 18:57

I think a lot of it has to do with your particular family. For instance, I stopped going to meetings between about 21 and 27 (it's called inactive) and it had no effect of my family stopping talking to me etc. Old friends would email me for a catchup or if I was in the same country/town I'd visit, they'd visit no problem. My Dbro is disfellowshipped. I keep in contact with him, I make sure he is okay and well. I see him maybe once every couple of years (we live in different countries). He has a wife and I have a niece (wonderful!) and send gifts for her and met her last year. If the elders had a problem with that so be it. I make sure he knows I love him, I think of him, and that if EVER he needed me, he could call me. Some men may not think that is okay, but I sure hope that God would see that my motivations are good and not judge me for it. I also hope it is encouraging to my Dbro.

I also see my non JW family, I love them, they love me. They don't care about my religious persuasion.

I grew up in the 80s when it was very much, you must not go to university, to the pub, clubs, gyms etc... It was the NO generation. Nowadays it is recognised that people have free will and can make decisions and take reponsibility for those decisions themselves. I know many that have had further education and have good jobs, my DH is one of them. We go to pubs for a pint, I've been out clubbing with my friends from the "church" and am happy to join a gym for exercise. My DC will be going to university (whether they like it or not! Grin ). I believe now to have a decent job and support a family well, this is necessary. It is all about balance. You won't see me raging drunk hanging out of clubs on a saturday night, but I can go with a group of friends and have a dance and a drink and enjoy myself without any bother.

It is when behaviours become extreme, that it comes to the attention of the elders.

I also have some social contact with people at work, occasional after work drinks, visit a couple of good friends from work for cups of teas, have been away on a weekend trip with one of them or ski trips etc.

We are normal people who love our families and are just trying to get on as best we can in life. We don't believe in the same things as everyone else, and that is okay, it's not wrong, it's just different.

I do feel for you WhiteShores, you are in a difficult place. I think though, you get to a certain age and just think, sod it, this is what I'll do, it's my life, if people don't like it, tough.

HerRoyalNotness · 09/04/2012 19:04

BTW, I've never been approached for not regularly preaching or attending meetings (a bit hit and miss with 2 little ones), but if I were, I'd say I was doing the best that I could right now. And that is good enough.

There was a good illustration that we heard a few times.

Imagine you are a glass and your service to God is the water in the glass. People look at glass from the side, and see if it is half full, almost empty etc.. but God looks at it from a birds eye view. From His perspective, everyone has the same amount.

SparklyGothKat · 09/04/2012 19:07

I remember another witness telling me I couldnt join the netball team, I was good at it too, but the teacher said I couldn't be in the team due to my religion Sad

WhiteShores · 09/04/2012 19:07

I am glad for you HerRoyalNotness, and you are absolutely correct, it has a lot to do with just how enmeshed your family is, and how many risks they are willing to take with regard to being disciplined.

It sounds as if your family is fairly liberal and that if push came to shove and members were forced to choose between family and religion, they would side with family. I am so glad for you, and wish that this was the case for everyone.

blobtobetter · 09/04/2012 19:09

HerRoyalNotness - love the water glass picture!!

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lisad123 · 09/04/2012 19:12

Sadly sgk you had some major strict ones in your year! I was on netball team, running team, basketball team, swim team and drama gang. Some people think its their right to set rules for other families on conscience issues Sad

HerRoyalNotness · 09/04/2012 19:16

That's exactly it Lisad "their right to set rules for other families on conscience issues "

I think when I was growing up, this was the Society's view or maybe just my mother's, now they realise people have their own conscience and can exercise it themselves.

SparklyGothKat · 09/04/2012 19:22

You know that I'm still upset that I wasn't on netball team because another witness' family had said she couldn't join in teams so she told the teachers that none of the witnesses could. I told my parents about it recently and they said that if they had known that they would have agreed to me being in the team. Growing up as a jw in the 80s was very hard and I think that's what put me off religion forever tbh

jjkm · 09/04/2012 20:06

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blobtobetter · 09/04/2012 20:09

Is it bad that I still find the idea of studying with the JWs appealing?

I like the idea of being that sure of my faith and being happy and in a friendly congregation.

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hiddenhome · 09/04/2012 20:12

What is it that you think the JWs can give to you that a Christian church can't?

calzone · 09/04/2012 20:14

I think you should go for it blob and see for yourself.

In my personal experience JW's are fun and friendly and believe in a hope for the future that a lot of people do not have today.

Yes there are rules to adhere to but their faith is based purely on the Bible and they will prove to you that Bible prophecy is currently being fulfilled.

There might be some things you do not agree with but you question it and they will show you through the Bible why it is their belief or why they do not believe it.

Let us know how you get on or pm me.

Do you know where your local KH is and when the meetings are?

hiddenhome · 09/04/2012 20:15

watchtower doctrine

jjkm · 09/04/2012 20:19

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blobtobetter · 09/04/2012 20:19

Hiddenhome - I have tried a couple of Christian churches and not found them particularly friendly.

I don't know that they could give me something that a Christian church could - I guess I am just searching.

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hiddenhome · 09/04/2012 20:21

That's a shame. Perhaps you should look around a bit more.

calzone · 09/04/2012 20:23

what are you looking for Blob?

do you have questions that you would like answering?

Why should she not try JW's Hiddenhome?

blobtobetter · 09/04/2012 20:24

I am still looking but (the more I think about it) I think part of the appeal of JWs is that they have growing numbers whereas churches around here have smaller and smaller congregations.

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hiddenhome · 09/04/2012 20:24

From what I understand, they're little better than a cult. I'm a conservative Christian, perhaps others are happier to be more open minded.

calzone · 09/04/2012 20:26

They really are not a cult.

They are good people following Jesus' command to preach the kingdom.

hiddenhome · 09/04/2012 20:28

It's an invented religion. Their core beliefs aren't Biblical and they don't like members reading Christian literature. They live by The Watchtower publications.

calzone · 09/04/2012 20:29

HH what are their core beliefs then?

blobtobetter · 09/04/2012 20:30

I am looking for somewhere that feels like home. Where I can learn more about the bible and become closer to God. I want it to be more than just a Sunday thing - more a way of life.

What sort of relationship do JWs have with God? Close and fatherly or distant and slightly intimidating?

I am open minded though as I am sure that I will be lead to the right place for me.

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SophieNeveau · 09/04/2012 20:30

Have they growing number? that is interesting.