Question for the Christians

[hiddenhome]

Just wonderin' 'n' musin' like. Do you ever get fed up or feel uncomfortable with the amount of blasphemy on the main boards? I've been noticing it more and more recently. I don't know why people think that this isn't offensive or unpleasant. I don't think they'd do it to other religions Makes me wonder why people are so vehemently anti Christian, then keep making these references. Also, can't understand why people can't equate a religious person's love for God to an atheist's love for their family and children. They wouldn't like to be insulted over their love for their dcs, but quite happily take the pee and dish it out to the faith people. Sometimes they're even hostile and aggressive about it. I find the boards quite slack liberally minded, but don't know why they don't extend this liberalism to everyone. If you truly choose equality, doesn't it mean that the equality should extend to those you don't agree with and even actively dislike?

I know we're supposed to take it as part of being a Christian, but was just wondering how others felt really.

[seeker]

Yes. Two- or possibly three properly attested miracles. JP2's so far are a dodgy back and somebody who may or may
not have had Parkinson's.

[hiddenhome]

I shouldn't have started this thread. First, it was hijacked and now you're insulting Pope John Paul

[alemci]

I have worked in a secondary state school for over 5 years' and there was no compulsory christian worship. If anything there was more attention paid to other religions. I think the state schools don't bother with the compulsory christian element anymore.

We did do compulsory RE but it was studied from the perspective of both christianity and Islam

[SillyBeardyDaddyman]

seeker questioning the world around you is a good thing. Questioning what you don't understand is a good thing. Open and honest debate is a good thing. Mockery is not.

Do you hate the term aggressive atheism? I do. That's because I'm not an aggressive atheist. I'm willing to listen to others and respect their beliefs no matter how strange they might appear to me.

[LineRunner]

All I asked was, Doesn't the catholic church require proof of a miracle for the process of sainthood?

[OliviaLMumsnet]

Good evening all
Just a reminder of our talk policy and particularly on a thread about religion, a gentle request to be civil to one another, especially this weekend.
Thanks M Towers

[hiddenhome]

seeker is mocking John Paul the second. I don't find this funny

[SillyBeardyDaddyman]

Thanks Olivia

Tbh this thread is way off topic and I was enjoying the debate up until the point at which people became deliberately provocative.

The phrase "You can't actually possibly believe what you are posting" has no place on a thread like this. I'm an atheist and I'm being attacked by another atheist because I'm tolerant towards Christianity. There's something wrong there.

I'd like to think I added something to this debate, answered a few questions, put in my tuppence and learned a few things too. Now I'm leaving the thread because intolerance and ignorance bore me.

[LineRunner]

I'm not responsible for that.

[BonfireOfKleenex]

Que?

Oh well, looks like this is a debate free zone then... happy Easter.

[hiddenhome]

This thread has become ridiculous and I hope it dies a death. It was a thread aimed at other Christians who have been drowned out by all you people who keep demanding proof that God exists, yadda, yadda and it's just plain boring.

[mathanxiety]

'The phrase "You can't actually possibly believe what you are posting" has no place on a thread like this. I'm an atheist and I'm being attacked by another atheist because I'm tolerant towards Christianity. There's something wrong there.'

Very well said, SBDman and I agree.

[headinhands]

There's not much I find truly boring in life, other than housework, which is exactly why you won't find me in the housekeeping area of MN.

[Starwisher]

"The phrase "You can't actually possibly believe what you are posting" has no place on a thread like this. I'm an atheist and I'm being attacked by another atheist because I'm tolerant towards Christianity. There's something wrong there."

Sillybeardy I enjoyed reading your posts, but... Well I told you so :( I take no glee saying that

It's a shame you are leaving the thread, but who can blame you?

You know what, as quite a few people are starting to say they are sick of the attitudes maybe some people might start to consider there is a teeny tiny possibility that you need to look at your behaviour

Happy Easter

[seeker]

If I offended anyone I'm sorry. I genuinely ddidn't intend to, and am actually amazed to come on here this morning and find that I had. SBDM- my incredulity was aroused because surely a thoughtful democrat must have an issue with 25 law makers being in place simply because they are Christians? I just don't see how questioning the place that Christianity takes in public life is intolerant. And that is all I am doing.

And I wasn't mocking John Paul 2. If anything, I was mocking the Vatican's process of canonisation. The two miracles attributed to him have been widely questioned, by people inside the Catholic Church as well as those outside.

I'm not sure which of my post was considered bad enough to be reported- but once again, I apologise. I'm baffled- but sorry!

[seeker]

I was sort of hoping that somebody would come back and explain to me what I had said that was offensive enough to be reported, but hey ho...

[alemci]

I don't know Seeker TBH. maybe it was to do with the catholic church.

[LineRunner]

The debate had moved on to proof of miracles. I suggested that the catholic church had a process for investigation of miracles as part of the path to sainthood.

I have read a bit about and was under the impression that there is an established system of looking at evidence, taking witness statements, and examination. I thought that this was relevant and of interest.

I wasn't expecting such a negative reaction, to be honest. I would have thought it was clear that I find the history of christianity fascinating.

[LineRunner]

And I'm sorry if I caused offence, too. I like discussion, not upset.

[seeker]

"I have read a bit about and was under the impression that there is an established system of looking at evidence, taking witness statements, and examination. I thought that this was relevant and of interest."

There is. One that many Catholics find risible.

I made no comments about John Paul 2

[hiddenhome]

'JP2's so far are a dodgy back and somebody who may or may
not have had Parkinson's.'

So, presumably this wasn't said with any intention to ridicule or be sarcastic? No, of course not

PA or what?

[seeker]

But that is actually true! There are serious questions being asked about whether the nun in question actually had Parkinson's, and also about the severity of the back problem. Loads of Catholics find the process of canonization bizarre.