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Canticles, charisma and chat (Religion thread number 2)

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BaroqueAroundTheClock · 19/02/2011 17:11

the first one is nearly full.

Anyone welcome, it's basically a "what happened in church/spiritual life/anything else you want to chat about that's vaguely related (or not) to churchy stuff.

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nickelbabysnatcher · 22/03/2011 12:22

do you want to see the evidence?
taken at 5 o'clock this morning!

nickelbabysnatcher · 22/03/2011 12:22

sorry, i x-posted!
Blush but also Grin

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 22/03/2011 12:29

yes yes - I had a search to see it if you'd posted elsewhere and found it on the TTC thread Grin

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nickelbabysnatcher · 22/03/2011 12:31

stalker! Grin

I did tell my mum before I posted it.
I felt like a right saddo taking the picture this morning, but I figured the Viroids would need to see it! (and so that I had evidence I hadn't dreamt it all!)

PositiveAttitude · 22/03/2011 17:12

COngratulations Nickel Grin

nickelbabyhatcher · 22/03/2011 17:17

thanks PA i feel quite queasy. don't like that bit Grin

thanksamillion · 22/03/2011 18:47

yay yay nickel Big congratulations Grin Have to confess I had to go and look up what BFP meant - at first (when I read down the thread and saw Baroque's response) I thought it must be some kind of special musical morning service or something Grin

essenceofSES · 22/03/2011 18:52

Hello all!

Congrats (again!) to Nickel Grin
I'm just entering the 2ww and if successful, could get my BFP on Mother's Day

Off to RCIA tonight. Our parish priest is doing a session on the Easter Triduum which will be great. Easter is definitely my favourite time of year :)

Sorry to post and run but need to get DS bathed and in bed before I go out...

madhairday · 22/03/2011 19:02

Yay nickel!!! Congratulations - thrilled for you (resists hugs and huns) Grin
That is most excellent news. Ses hope you get one too. Do they still call them BFPs then? I remember waiting eagerly for one back in the day

Yep nickel you could hire the birthing pool in church then have the baptism there and then, saves time and money Grin Grin

Praying for a nice and not too sicky pregnancy for you...

DutchOma · 22/03/2011 20:55

Or you could become a Baptist and use the baptismal pool in the church. Puts a whole new slant on being born again. Smile

MaryBS · 22/03/2011 21:27

Congrats Nickel, thats one way to increase the congregation at your church :o Wink (hope you're not offended by that btw)

Op went well i think. Feel remarkably good after it, although quite tired, so will head for bed now...

essenceofSES · 22/03/2011 22:56

Mary - sorry, I completely missed that you were having an op today. Glad it went well and hope you sleep well tonight.

Nickel - still Grin for you!

DO - love the image of being born again within moments of being born! I guess in a baptismal pool in a baptist church though, that's not really the idea!

Hello millie, MHD and Baroque too :)

RCIA wasn't an evening on the Easter Triduum after all! That's next week I think! Instead it was an evening of prayer and reflection. Wonderful to have an hour to indulge in spending time with God :)

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 23/03/2011 10:13

oooooooo I have parcels arriving today -

new waterproof mattress protectors (should arrive in the next week)
Food processor (is here Grin)
New bathroom scales
30 day shred (should arrive tomorrow not today)
breadmaker accesory kit (as I've lost the paddle and the measuring bits for mine)
and a BBQ!!!

Am very excited.

Need also today at some point to pop over to church and find some stuff for us to practice at choir tonight..........that is if anyone turns up Hmm

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nickelbabyhatcher · 23/03/2011 10:27

ooh, essence , i do hoep you live in America, using Mother's Day on a religiion thread! Shock in the UK, it's Mothering Sunday.....

nickelbabyhatcher · 23/03/2011 10:28

mhd - brilliant plan! I can give birth, be churched and baptize at the same time! Grin
that'll give the old dears something to talk about! Grin

nickelbabyhatcher · 23/03/2011 10:29

Mary - not offended at all!
we've been saying since we started ttc-ing that we were only doing it because it'sthe only way to get new choristers! Grin

nickelbabyhatcher · 23/03/2011 10:41

okay, church stuff [serious face]

we had our confirmation service last night at St Mary's.
I got DH to bring me some food, because I had to dash there from the Retail Association meeting.
So, I was sitting in the choir stalls eating my dinner! Grin
(everyone knows I have to eat when I need to eat, so they just laugh and ignore...)
I saw the music lady from St Mary's, who is due in June, so I had to tell her straight away. she was pleased (and warned me about sickness)
then I saw AC (old priest who went to Reigate), and told her - because I didn't know she would be there, and it was so exciting to see her (she's the one that married us), so I had to tell her straight away too! Grin and she also warned me about sickness! (and told me to eat a ginger biscuit every day for breakfast)

The confirmation service was great - our Bishop is so lovely - he made time to speak to everybody individually, and let Junior Chorister take a photo of him before the service (with my camera)
and our anthems went well, too.

But the last "hymn" was Shine Graham Shine, and the acoustics in St Mary's aren't great - the choir stalls are behind the altar, and it's quite a long way to the congregation, so none of the claps was in time -sounded very odd (holding back from saying dreadful) and they sang the chorus all wrong, too. has noone heard of rhythm?! [rant]

and they also did a modern hymn that I cried in, because there was a crucifiction verse. can't remember what it was now! (i've sung it before) I've texted DH so hope he remembers...

nickelbabyhatcher · 23/03/2011 10:42

that was it - I will Offer up my Life

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 23/03/2011 10:43

oooooo I love that one

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nickelbabyhatcher · 23/03/2011 10:48

was that then? Confused

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 23/03/2011 10:54

was that then??????? huh?

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essenceofSES · 23/03/2011 11:04

nickel - no am not in America Blush but actually very near Reigate!!! Your old priest that went to Reigate, is that St Marys Reigate?

As for Mothering Sunday, you are absolutely right but I have just never "got" Mothering Sunday from a church perspective. Neither from when I was CofE or now as RC. I'm not very good at saying/typing stuff when I know it's right but I don't really know what I'm talking about Blush

If anyone could explain, I'd be much appreciative... I think it's to do with honouring your mother church but I don't really understand that either!

Hello Baroque - enjoy 30 day shred :)

thejaffacakesareonme · 23/03/2011 11:11

Nickel - Congratulations!

nickelbabyhatcher · 23/03/2011 11:20

Grin essence. It's St Luke's and St Peter's

I don't know the explanation, either - I'm sure I do, somewhere in the recesses of my mind, but I do know that my original Vicar was very proper about things like that, and would bark if you got it wrong (not in a nasty way!) Grin

Mary probably knows the proper explanation, she's got degrees and stuff.....

nickelbabyhatcher · 23/03/2011 11:21

I found this on a School website:

[quote] "Mothering Sunday was also known as 'Refreshment Sunday', Pudding Pie Sunday (in Surrey, England) or 'Mid-Lent Sunday'. It was a day in Lent when the fasting rules were relaxed, in honour of the 'Feeding of the Five Thousand', a story in the Christian Bible.

Roman Spring Festival

The more usual name was Mothering Sunday. No one is absolutely certain exactly how the name of Mothering Sunday began. However, one theory is that the celebration could have been adopted from a Roman Spring festival celebrating Cybele, their Mother Goddess.

Chiddingstone ChurchMother Church

As Christianity spread, this date was adopted by Christians. The epistle in the Book of Common Prayer for this Sunday refers to the heavenly Jerusalem as "the Mother of all us all", and this may have prompted the customs we still see today.

It is known on this date, about four hundred years ago, people made a point of visiting their nearest big church (the Mother Church). The church in which each person was baptised.

Cathedrals are the 'mother church' of all other churches in an area ('diocese'). Canterbury Cathedral is pictured below.

Canterbury CathedralPeople who visited their mother church would say they had gone "a mothering."

Girls in Service

Young British girls and boys 'in service' (maids and servants) at the local Manor House or in a Mansion, were only allowed one day to visit their family each year. This was usually on Mothering Sunday.

For some this could be a significant journey since their mother may have lived some distance away, indeed another town altogether from the Manor where they were put in to service. Often the housekeeper or cook would allow the maids to bake a cake to take home for their mother. Sometimes a gift of eggs; or flowers from the garden (or hothouse) was allowed.

"Maids were put in to service for the Landed Gentry and paid a small salary but boarded free of charge. They dealt with everything from cleaning,washing to cooking, so to have a day of rest and be able to visit their mother was quite a privelledge."
by Chris Richards, a visitor to our website

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