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mormon faith/latterday saints

41 replies

saggyjuju · 05/09/2010 13:44

hi,what are the basic beliefs of this faith?

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KingPellinore · 05/09/2010 14:26

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saggyjuju · 05/09/2010 16:19

thanks for that

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teahouse · 05/09/2010 17:19

Or chat with them online here www.mormon.org/chat/

NOTHEROLDIE · 05/09/2010 17:27

It is a Christian faith.
Get in touch with your local LDS (Latter day Saint) meeting house (church) and full time Missionaries can fill you in with EVERYTHING you ever needed to know about it!

(good luck they are wonderful people)

angelstar · 05/09/2010 19:43

There is a new website also www.lds.org.uk

angelstar · 05/09/2010 19:43

www.lds.org.uk

spiritmum · 06/09/2010 16:05

My cousin grew up in a Mormon family. Wasn't easy for her. Her brother fully embraced the church and went off as a missionary during which time he wasn't allowed contact with the family. He has now cut her out of his life because she has left the church.

Apart from not drinking tea or coffee I remember the women had to kneel down to ensure that their skirts touched the floor; shorter than that and they weren't allowed in. Some of the church members were lovely, some weren't. Same as everywhere.

One of the oddest things was when my aunt began to research our family tree in order to 'save' all our ancestors by getting them retrospectively made Mormons. Apparently their details have been entered into records in Utah. I believe that they have also included living people but not me or our dc. Can't decide if I am offended that she is happy for us to rot in hell (by her beliefs) or not.

angelstar · 06/09/2010 19:49

I'm a mormon and have never once had to kneel on the floor to be allowed into the church even in my teen years when my skirts were quite short. Most people don't wear mini skirts but you would never be turned away for wearing one. Also I think the family thing with your cousins is a personal thing, I have family who don't go to the church anymore but they are still my family and I love them, I would never cut them out my life. I see them and treat them just the same as the members of my family that do go to the church.

spiritmum · 06/09/2010 21:05

Angelstar, do you think it could have been just that church then? Women weren't allowed trousers either and my cousin was really shocked when I told her she could wear them to our dd's baptism.

Yes, I do know that it is my cousin's brother's choice to cut her out; her parents haven't done so although they still belong to the church. Her brother seems to have taken it all too strongly IYSWIM.

angelstar · 07/09/2010 15:20

It could have been as we sometimes have women attending in trousers too.

teahouse · 07/09/2010 19:55

Hymns are considered doctrine so you will find LDS has a Motehr in Heaven. Women however, go to a different part of heaven unless their marriage is sealed for eternity in a temple ceremony.

On the whole LDS is quite patriarchal if looked at through Western eyes, although LDS women often express an above average life satisfaction.

They are a conservative church and although Christian, not all Trinitarian Christians would agree. One of the main issues is the Mormon's believe they can achieve Godhead status themselves in the afterlife. They also have a continuous revelation through the hierarchy.

There is plenty of writing on Mormonism but I would suggest books by Douglas Davies on the subject. He has done a lot of research on Mormons.

saggyjuju · 08/09/2010 13:57

absolutely fascinating,i have a family who are on one side of my parents being devout catholic and the other are latterday saints to the extent that there are family members that head their church,then in the middle none of us children have any religious beliefs and then along comes one of my children who is at a C of E school and are totally engrossed in chistianity!

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Sariah · 15/09/2010 17:29

HI I too am a practicing Mormon. I am the only member of my family that is a member and I am very close to the rest of my family. I have never had to kneel and while I wear a skirt or dress to church on Sunday I wear jeans/trousers the rest of the time. I am a member 6 years and I love it

eilidhexmo · 20/10/2010 17:55

Hi,

As my name suggests, I am now a former mormon and was a member for 33 years, until I did some research in to the real beliefs and history of the mormon church- the stuff they try not to tell new members or people interested in finding out more.

They are more of a fringe christian sect, certainly not mainstream.

If you are interested in a broader point of view than just the mormon church's I would recommend www.exmormon.org. There are thousands of people who post their own personal histories with the mormon church there; it is very enlightening.

MmeOrangeBlackandBlueberry · 23/10/2010 13:54

LDS is not considered Christian by orthodox Christians. It is quite a homespun faith, really, based on tablets allegedly found by John Smith (?) in ?Ohio and which have now conveniently disappeared.

There are many good points about the LDS church (such as their attitude towards family life) and their zeal for evangelism, but many many bad points.

LynLiesNomoreZombieFest · 23/10/2010 14:22

My DF was a Mormon, and I think it is a wonderful religion. I am an atheist but if I ever wanted a religion this would be it.

We attended the Church on Sundays but the service was a small part of the day. We would play basket ball, in a court within the same building. We would have a BBQ or party. Every member of the family would be present and was just good fun, no preaching.

The church arrranged camping trips, days out, picnics, all of this would be free.

We would have an "at home" which meant an evening where we would invite other members of the church to our home, or vice versa and we would have a get together play with the DCS help anyone who needed it.

Elders from the church would tell stories about cowboys as they made popcorn and the popping corn would imitate the sound of their guns.

Everyone was encouraged not to smoke or drink or have caffeine as they should respect their bodies.

My DF gave 10% of his income to the church every week.

I have seen documentaries about Mormons in the USA and how they have many wives and other things, this is definitely not my experience.

It was a place where family values were upheld above all else, and a place where I learned there were good men in the world.

Sariah · 23/10/2010 23:14

Hey MOBB would you mind telling me some of the bad parts. I have been a member for over 6 years and have yet to encounter anything bad. In fact i am heading with my family to our Temple for a week on Monday.

Ps I did a years worth of research before I got baptised including reading stories on exmormon.org and many other anti mormon sites.

I have never been happier.

pintyblud · 23/10/2010 23:29

It's all a bit wacko. Founded by a bloke with magic spectacles.

Sariah · 23/10/2010 23:55

yawn :) Obviously you got your learned opinion from watching Southpark, well done.

hellzapoppin · 23/10/2010 23:59

Yes, great bbqs and summer camp. It's all about family after all...

Yet, every single Mormon I know over the age of 35 is on their second or even third marriage.

People are actively encouraged to marry young - and as sex before marriage is out- you have a disaster waiting to happen within some of these young marriages.

Even 2nd and 3rd time around - again no sex before marriage - even if you're a divorcee with three kids- so another quick splice with someone you've been matchmaked to within your 'ward'.

I know the sin of sex outside marriage isn't exclusive to the mormon faith, but it's that - coupled with the real lack of ambition for young girls beyond getting a bloke and breeding - that makes this unsettling for me.

pintyblud · 24/10/2010 00:01

Was that to me, sariah? I have never watched a southpark episode about mormons.

I have come to my opinion from

  1. an RE lesson on the mormons (spectacle story)
  2. meeting and socialsiing with mormons while living in FRance
pintyblud · 24/10/2010 00:01

Tjhe mormons I met in FRance were evangelising Americans. They were friends of French friends of mine.

Sariah · 24/10/2010 00:09

Funny I am 36 and on my first marriage. Nearly all the members I know are still on their first marriage. There are around 30 couples attending my ward and only one of them has broken down. My dh is 45.

Pintyblud I must have been out the week they thought that lesson :)

Sariah · 24/10/2010 00:10

Also most of the women I know have studied at masters level. I have 3 girls and they will all go onto study. I am an accountant and an auditor and have a good career.

hellzapoppin · 24/10/2010 00:18

That's great Sariah, glad to hear to it.

But it doesn't change the numbers of women I know in LDS for whom this is not the case.