Is there anyway to change a Dogs 'KC' name?

[Disenchanted3]

Our breeder was lovely, she helped us so much and was very pre=ofessional but she gave our pups really bad Kennel Names!

Now we are the registered owners is there anyway to change them?

I completely agree that everything has a learning curve - my issue being that I think you are at the beginning of yours (for dogs in general, not even taking into account the breeding side of things).

And yes, of course it is better to ask - but only if you actually take the advice you receive.

It certainly is better to ask, but sadly, plenyt of people ask and then only listen to what they want to hear.

Was it you who bought the unregistered, unhealth tested Cav that had a hernia? Being able to pick a good breeder and understand why that and health testing is important would probably be the start of learning for most people.

I don't think it is impossible for you to breed responsibly, and everyone does have to start somewhere, but I really think you should show your bitches first and try and find a mentor within the breed, who really knows the breed and can help you. It might also mean that you have to accept that neither of your bitches turns out to be good enough and that if you really want to breed pugs to start again with a new bitch and also be aware that she may too not turn out to be good enough to breed from, although there is far more chance if a breeder with experience deems her to have show potential.

my ckcs does have a hernia, yes. 2 vets have said its unlikely to be heriditary and she is being spayed asap so it has no bearring on her litters as she wont have any.

It's not really just the hernia, or whether it is hereditary, it is the fact that any breeder of a KC registerable breed who does not KC register will have dubious reasons, at best, for not doing so. You seem unaware of the importance in cavs for health testing for conditions such as SM, yet bought the pup anyway.

Dis - I have seen elsewhere that you are talking of de-regging. If that's anything to do with this thread then please don't.

I know you think we are all judging you but I most certainly am not and I'm pretty confident I can speak for the others on that score too.

What is clear is that there's quite a lot you need to learn if you are going to breed your dogs - where else could you pick the brains of such knowledgeable people (I don't include myself there ).

The mad dog women on this thread are not interested in judging you - we actually only want to try to help ensure the best outcome for the dogs. That's how twisted we are

If that means pointing out possible problems in your plan then we do it. Minimu helps me with my training, and I'm incredibly grateful to her for doing that: I don't take it as judgement.

Please reconsider.

Thanks Bella.

I do understand your concerns and I promise that every piece of advice I get I do take on board and if I breed I will always strive to do the very best, my dogs mean the world to me and I would never scrimp on something so important.

Its not that I see comments as criticism because I think I know better or because I'm pig-headed, I just find it hard because when it comes to my dogs I love them so much and really do try TO BE THE BEST OWNER TO THEM I CAN BE and so I see it as if people think i am jepordising them or letting them down. Does that make sense?

Dunno where those caps came from

It wasn't just this thread it was just the internet as a whole intruding in on my real life and I do need to step back from it.

Right, well stop beating yourself up for a start, you silly moo

We all try our best - well, no, that's not true - but we all try and we're none of us perfect and none of us make all the right decisions all the time, that's for sure, so don't set yourself such unattainably high standards.

I do understand if MN is just taking up too much of your time - believe me, I understand

But it would be great if you'd stick around here, and feel free to have a good laugh at me and the scrapes I get into with my dogs. Life's too short.

Many and sincere apologies for any offence I have caused you. And lots of love to your dogs

Disenchanted3, can I just give a few things for you to think about. Not being snippy, or bitchy, just throwing some things into the pot as it were as there is lots to consider. I have been in my 'breed' for 15 years and because I can't answer yes to all of my following questions I won't be breeding.

Are you willing to take the chance that your bitch may die/have to undergo major surgery during welping (not only us that need CS's and this is a question I ask for any breed)?

Have you actually met the stud dog you have in mind?

Have you seen and met his progeny? This is mainly to see their temperament. A show dog is lovely, but its a pet first so temperament is a must.

Have you homes lined up for pups (yes to that one).

Are you willing to take back any of these puppies at ANY time in their life if things go wrong in their new home? Failing being able to take them back could you guarantee finding a home for them?

I know you think your dog is a prize specimen of the breed. Thats the rules, we ALL own the best dog! But seriously, have you ever shown, been to a dog show, attended a Breed Judging Seminar. Its not just about looks, its about temperament, movement, muscle tone, fitness. How well does your dog and the stud dog fit to the Breed Standard?

Have you seen the dogs at least 2 generations back on the pedigree of your bitch and the stud dog? Chances are if they are show dogs they will still be alive and maybe in the ring. If not their breeders SHOULD be more than happy to talk to you.

What hereditary problems are in the breed? How many of the stud dog and litter sister/brothers to your bitch have any of these problems? (If you do already show and go to shows, there is a chance you would already know this).

Hope some of this is of help. Its really only the tip of the iceberg. I can't answer yes to all of these questions. I haven't bred form my bitch. I chose my dogs from a breeder who could answer yes.

Are you willing to take the chance that your bitch may die/have to undergo major surgery during welping (not only us that need CS's and this is a question I ask for any breed)?

Im not willing to let my bitch die, who would be?! but i took the chance with labout myself 3 times. I know her families whelping history is good with no history of c-sections and like I said previusly in the thread we will be prepared for the c-section if it comes down to that.

Have you actually met the stud dog you have in mind?

I have talked to 2 breeders, one of which I have met many times before and got my male pug from 7 years ago. I have kept in contact and so know alot about his family! I haven't met him yet but have met his Damn and her pups plenty of times.

Have you seen and met his progeny? This is mainly to see their temperament. A show dog is lovely, but its a pet first so temperament is a must.

I haven't met him yet but like I said, I know his breeder and she will be happy for me to go visit, she is a very good bredder and has one of his pups and would be happy for me to be given details of his litters and their owners.

Have you homes lined up for pups (yes to that one).

For 4 puppies up to now plus I hope to kee one so if she has 5 or less then they will all be accounted for.

Are you willing to take back any of these puppies at ANY time in their life if things go wrong in their new home? Failing being able to take them back could you guarantee finding a home for them?

I do plan to draw up a contract specifying that I should be contacted first if the dog is in need of rehoming and I would happily take any of the pups back in to find them a new home. I'm not completely up to date on the procedure of this (ie refunds etc) but am happy to find out if anyone has the answrs! But would always take a dog back if possible!

I know you think your dog is a prize specimen of the breed. Thats the rules, we ALL own the best dog! But seriously, have you ever shown, been to a dog show, attended a Breed Judging Seminar. Its not just about looks, its about temperament, movement, muscle tone, fitness. How well does your dog and the stud dog fit to the Breed Standard?

I haven't shown my dogs no, Its something I would like to do but our main problem is transport. We haven't got a car yet but actually posted earlier int he day asking about what cars could fir us, the kids and 2 crates in for the dogs so we plan to change that within the next few months! Transport is obviously evry important in case of emergency.

Have you seen the dogs at least 2 generations back on the pedigree of your bitch and the stud dog? Chances are if they are show dogs they will still be alive and maybe in the ring. If not their breeders SHOULD be more than happy to talk to you.

Yes, we met the pups mother and father, we keep in close contact with the breeder of our dogs. We also know of the owners of the grandparents of the dam so could go see them.

The stud dog is as above, we an meet him and his family whenever we want.

The stud comes from a really good breeder who shows all her dogs and they have a really good history and shes always happy to help!

What hereditary problems are in the breed? How many of the stud dog and litter sister/brothers to your bitch have any of these problems? (If you do already show and go to shows, there is a chance you would already know this).

We have had one of the male pups of the breeder with no problems. The breeders provide helth checks :DNA Profiled : Yes
Heart Test :
Hemivertibrae :

we have no report of any of our bitches brothers and sisters having problems or any of her previouys littlers.

Hope some of this is of help. Its really only the tip of the iceberg. I can't answer yes to all of these questions. I haven't bred form my bitch. I chose my dogs from a breeder who could answer yes.

I suppose I can't pass it all yet but am working on it.

Its genuinly not something I'm taking lightly, I am contacting as many people as I cn asking advice in our area, I have tonnes of books andam researching everyday

I think everyone just wants to help, we wouldn't waste our time just posting to make you feel bad (well, I wouldn't - and I hope nobody else would!), so I hope it didn't come across that way. It seemed to me that you were planning to breed them this year, especially as you'd posted to say they'd just had their seasons and then came on asking about breeders insurance shortly after - I'm sure you can understand how that would come across. So I think a lot of people probably thought the same as I did - that you were being hasty and going into it with your eyes closed. But I'm glad that you are researching things - your girls are still young so you've got a couple of years to learn and decide whether or not to move forward.

With regards to the car, get a Renault Scenic! We've been saving for a new car (although the car fund is no more thanks to vets bills and broken appliances!) and have decided to get a Scenic ourselves because they're really cheap - we don't want to spend a lot as it's more for the dogs really! We'd also looked at some Zafiras and Picassos but the Zafiras were a bit plasticky and the Picassos didn't have as much room in the boot. The Scenic has a huge boot, and the three back seats move back and forward independently of each other, rather than having one big bench-type seat, so it's more flexible. The middle seat is full-sized and has a proper seatbelt instead of a lap belt too. When the seats are pushed right forward the boot is HUGE but there's still room for LOs to sit, and there's two child size seats in the boot that pop up when you need them. The front is really spacious too, and there's loads of storage compartments. You can get them in all different engine sizes and in petrol, diesel, manual, automatic - and they're quite cheap if you go for the older shape ones (around 2004 they changed the shape of the boot and it's not as spacious, so I prefer the older ones anyway). You can often pick one up in good condition with decent mileage etc for about £1,400 on autotrader. Before we spent the money we had our eye on a 2004 model that had only done 40,000 miles, had all the extras (CD player, alloys, side airbags etc) and was in perfect condition, and it was only £2,900. Sob, I want my car fund back!

I understand, when I decide something I try and work out very possibility hence asking about insurance. I can't help but plan, so I'm already recording thingsand writing down useful numbers and contacts.

Sometimes my thoughs go off on one and I end up asking about things I really don't need to know yet but am curious about.

The scenic looks perfect. Would probably be an older version but like you said it would mostly be for the dogs!

The kids school is within walking distance, as is nursery, the doctors and several shops (if I need a big shop I go online but get my veg/fruit locally)

Its just the vets thats a distance and we have to ask for a lift, also if I do breed then we need to have transport to the dog and for any emergencies.

It will be nice to drive though, i hate asking for lifts. We only do it when nessecary but its very annoying to feel a burden.