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Bella i want to pick your brains PLEASE! (or anybody who knows about dogs please!")

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morethanyoubargainfor · 17/12/2009 17:05

My curly coated retriever has had 2 limb corrective surgeries in the last 8 weeks. The first one didn't work.

Here is the dilemma he has been on ACP for 8 weeks now and i am trying really hard not to give them to him unless he really needs them.

He is going stir cazy, he is on house arrest and not supposed to be doing much at all. I have given him soft toys as he likes to shred them, but everything else is designed to keep a dog active. What else can i do to elevate some of the boredom?

He is only just 2 and full of beans, and i also have an 18 month old lurcher who doesn't really help in the still stakes! The curly one is locked in the kitchen.

he is not food orientated so can't even make him work for his food. Also he hasn't exercised for 8 weeks so not hungry!

AAAARRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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iggypiggy · 17/12/2009 17:13

Oooh - I have ideas! What will he work for? Games?

I play all sorts of games to tire mine out mentally - hiding things then sending them to find them is a good game for gundogs.

Or you could teach him something like putting a toy in a box? or retrieving named items from a selection of toys - eg. find the bear, find the sheep - then much praise for getting the right thing and a game with it? Or a new 'trick' like give paw or roll over?

Would he eat a bone? That keeps mine occupied for ages - my lab isn't food orientated either btw. A big (raw) marrowbone or Hip joint type of bone keeps him amused.

Or a kong, if not a bone? You can stuff them with all sorts of things (meat, cheese etc.)

Mine also loves those treat balls (the cube ones?) but I think he likes the noise of the treats rather than eating them...

Sorry if they not helpful... mine had kennel cough 2 years ago and was essentially housebound for 3 weeks - so we had to be creative...

BellasSparklyBaubles · 17/12/2009 17:16

Poor boy

Am in the middle of cooking dinner but really you want:

MINIMU

that woman is a genius. She types long detailed training posts - am sure she has taught her dogs to type using a clicker

Will pop back later anyway with my less-impressive ideas

morethanyoubargainfor · 17/12/2009 17:23

thanks for reply,

He isn't interested in kongs or treat balls etc.

he has a buster collare on so can't really teach him new 'tricks' as the minute you take the collar off he is so focus on his cast you can not get him to focus on anythhing else .

He is a typical curly in the sense of stubbourness and aloofness(if thats even a word!) but not at finding things or retrieving things.

He would rather walk away then find something that has been hidden.

He lives in the kitchen at the moment which is about 20ft x 12ft so by the time you get victor (7 st on muscle and height!) his bed, bowls and all the kitchen stuff there isn't much room for anything else!

I f i bring him into the rest of the house all he wants to do is play with the lurcher or jump on the couch, niether of which he is allowed to do.

He does eat bones but they can give him runny poo's which isn't so good with a cast on your back leg! so try to limit them, but i will buy him another tommorrow.

Sorry if it seems like i am dissing all your ideas but he is a strange one .

He lives for his walks and for a bit of sofa dwelling and cuddles (as in he thinks he is a lap dog and loves nothing more than to sit on me or my 7 ds .

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morethanyoubargainfor · 17/12/2009 17:24

Anyone know where i can find MINIMU?

I have read her posts and i to think she is amazing, if you see her point her is this direction!

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morethanyoubargainfor · 17/12/2009 18:08

calling Minimu

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iggypiggy · 17/12/2009 18:31

Is your dog clicker trained by any chance? Mine is and he loves problem solving. But he does sound tricky to entertain with all the issues!

Will have a think while we wait for minimu!

minimu · 17/12/2009 18:40

Blimey not got to live up to much then!

Sorry your dog is convalescing - a nightmare time for all of you!

It is very normal for some dogs not to play but does make it so much harder for you at a time like this. I would not give up on this though. Most dogs can be taught to play and this may be the time to do it.

Re treats I would give him weeny meals and make him earn all his food. It may mean having to use really yummy yummy treats hot dog, cheese, chicken, baked liver etc.

Without being too boring or predictable I would clicker train him. Clicker training for 10 minutes can tire out the most active dogs.

Once you get him accustomed to the clicker and for this do use yummy treats. If he is not that treat orientated just do it a few times when he is hungry. Seriously I would not give him his tea and then clicker train him before breakfast if necessary. So click and treat, click and treat etc. Obviously the clicker can be used for general training but if his movement is restricted do free play. Basically just give him an object. I do this with an empty box. Just put it on the floor and if he shows an interest in the box click and treat. He will keep looking at the boc or pushing it, he may stand in it but whenever he shows any interest click and treat. It is amazing what tricks the dogs show you they can do. Mine stand on a washing up bowl and walk around it on their front legs, one will pick up the bowl and throw it over his head one pushes it into a pretend goal. (oh what jolly fun our household is!!!)

Then change the object and again wait to see what behaviours he throws at you.

One of my dogs today in the snow kept lifting one of his paws to wipe the snow off his noise I clicked each time him did it and now bless him he will lift his paw across his face when I say "cry". Completely useless but he is proud of himself and it is dead cute!

Another way to amuse dogs is to take them for a ride in the car. (If you can get him in the car!)

This also may sound a stupid suggestion but some dogs will watch telly, generally not so much the retrievers but collies so worth a try one man and his dog is a good one for one of mine and the monkey world program is also one some of mine will watch.

To get him toy focussed I am afraid you have to behave a bit like a loony but if you get someone to hold the dog and you play with a toy in a mad cheerful and interested way with your back to the dog. Makes lots of high pitched squeals of enjoyment and do not on any account let the dog near you. Then let the dog off to come to you and send the dog away or move away from him with the toy but still being excited. The more you don't let him have the toy the more he will want it. Do then let him have the toy but he will probably not know what to do with it so you will have to pull it around or hide it under your feet etc. (Do warn the neighbours and OH as you don't want to get taken away by the men in white coats for your weird behaviour!) Then stop the game when he is interested and do not let him have the toy. Put it away and then later do the same thing but this time with a different toy.

The toys can be made out of socks stuffed with socks, old tea towels tied in knots but you may find a furry sqeaky toy may get a retriever going.

I'll think some more and get back to you.

mulledfruitshootandcheese · 17/12/2009 18:40

A rabbit on a bungee rope.

he can watch it for hours and will exercise his neck muscles at the same time

sorted

minimu · 17/12/2009 18:51

what position is your dog most comfortable in with his injury?

BellasSparklyBaubles · 17/12/2009 19:13

See, told ya!

And all typed by her lovely little doggies, too - with the aid of a clicker of course.

arf at rabbit on a bungee. That mental image will stay, mulledfruit

Very cute 'cry' trick too.

I was going to suggest TV too - although apparently not if you're in the US: the number of lines in a picture there doesn't work for a dog's eyes. Mind you, having sampled American TV, they're not missing much

morethanyoubargainfor · 17/12/2009 19:17

minimu, thanks for that and under pressure as well!

He does play but he plays by throwing, catching, shaking and generally lumping about like a kangaroo . He is so good at playing with his toys but because he leaps about so much he can't really be encouraged to do this at the moment IYKWIM.

He is only 2 weeks post op from the second one, the first one all the screws came loose and he was less active then he is now. .

He is most comfortable laying down in his bed as it is his rear right hock that has had all the surgery.

You see what i am faced with! and to think i waited 14 years to have my curly! think i could have had 8+ with the money he has cost us, but i don't want any others because i LOVE him .

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morethanyoubargainfor · 17/12/2009 19:19

but to watch tv he has to lie on the couch! tis victor rules here! he couldn't possibly lay on the floor-he is far to superior for that, thats the lurchers job!

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BellasSparklyBaubles · 17/12/2009 19:19

...they are gorgeous

morethanyoubargainfor · 17/12/2009 19:21

yes bella they are! wil try to find picture of him, if you want to see.

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BellasSparklyBaubles · 17/12/2009 19:24

Oooh yes, please! And very rare too, at least up here in the freezing North....

BellasSparklyBaubles · 17/12/2009 19:26

Just another thought - instead of ACP, have you asked your vet about Zylkene? It's a nutraceutical (made from casein, a milk protein) and has a mild sedative effect.

Might be worth a try - my old girl was the best she's ever been on Bonfire night with the help of that stuff.

morethanyoubargainfor · 17/12/2009 19:29

thanks bella i will ask for that when we go on tuesday.

They are also rare down here in the Sauf!
and usually get confused with labradoddle, which he looks nothing like!

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morethanyoubargainfor · 18/12/2009 13:34

have just brought him the biggest bone i have ever seen! it has made him a happy boy once again!

Although the other one is looking hopefully through the stair gate as shop only had one bone!

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BellasSparklyBaubles · 18/12/2009 14:18

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morethanyoubargainfor · 18/12/2009 21:00

photos now done bella! happy looking .

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morethanyoubargainfor · 18/12/2009 21:09

have let him watch a bit of tv today! he quite liked one man and his dog, until someting spooked him and he spent 10 mins barking and growling! He is usually a mute dog, have only heard him make noise a handful of times in his life!

He seems much happier since he had his bone to nibble, and is currently curled up with the lurcher .

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daisydotandgertie · 18/12/2009 21:27

He's just gorgeous!

I've taught my girls (gundogs too) to play with these. I don't have all of them (v expensive indeed!), but it's the best website I could find.

They really tire them out, especially learning and maintaining the discipline necessary to work the game and not just chew them to bits and run around with them in their mouths like loons .

I keep them as high value games - ie not kept in the dog toy basket and something only I can get out. They think those (and the training dummies!) are the very best things in the world.

morethanyoubargainfor · 18/12/2009 22:03

thank you daisydot, those games do look interesting, and it is christmas soon!

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BellasSparklyBaubles · 19/12/2009 09:32

Oooh, morethan - he is beautiful. Such a gorgeous face - a real heartbreaker! I love the one of him at 4 weeks too - makes me go all puppy broody, again!
Those toys that Daisy recommends are good - they sell some of them in PAH too. I wonder if a Tug a Jug would be too vigorous for him? They have to work the rope in the top to get biscuits out and you can vary the biscuit sizes to make it harder. My puppy tends to attack hers in the play bow position, although they can do it lying down too.

BellasSparklyBaubles · 19/12/2009 09:37

One more thought - have you tried kongs full of frozen gravy? I know you say he's not hungry and not food orientated but of course you'll have to cut back his food if he's not exercising. Might be worth switching to a lower protein food too in order to keep him calmer?

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