Pets4homes a trustworthy way to buy a puppy?

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Just bought a puppy that’s “up to date with vacinations”, “ fully vaccinated” “KC registered” “vet health checked”…. And it’s unvaccinated. Puppy may die as he was briefly exposed for three days on walks outside before we discovered the fraud by a breeder Atlanta Wilshire. google news story -daily Mail -says recovered heroin addict now involved in farming, and uk miss Uk beauty contestant. Scammers are scammers, but most shocking is pets4homes wash their hands, not being vaccinated invalidates guarantee he is vaccinated, not responsible for listing, they didn’t sell him they’re just a sale site. We paid pets4 homes not breeder, and they charged £150 as their fee. What has anyone eks3 found? I assumed they were like eBay, Amazon, Etsy etc. the site provides guarantee against deliberate verifiable fraud.

Did you do all of your checks on the breeder before you purchased? Did you get a vaccination certificate / proof from the vets before purchasing?

It is extremely unlikely your pup will die as a results of being outside for 3 days. Given most dogs are vaccinated there is a very high herd immunity effect.

Pets4homes are just the modern equivalent of an ad in the papers. I couldn’t follow the part about the guarantee and I’m not sure if the vaccination booklet you provided is the one you did or a fake?

If the puppy was going to die after exposure it would have already.

You’ve posted about this on three different threads. Everyone, apart from you apparently, knows Pets4Homes is dodgy as hell. So, yes the breeder was dodgy, but YOU failed to do your research. What has happened is on you more so than pets4homes because as you say they’re not responsible for the breeders negligence or your lack of research.

The price alone should have told you there was a problem tbh.

We used pets 4 homes, I view it as a place to advertise puppies for sale?
We obviously did our own checks on the puppy, saw both parents, got a vet certificate for vaccinations and microchip.

I’m sure there are dodgy people on there but it’s up to you to check everything is legitimate

I’ve read your other posts to get more of what happened. From this is seems your puppy has their first vaccinations on 24thOctober, but not the set one set 4 weeks later.

So it really comes down to when you picked the dog up? If before the 21st December the advert was correct, the dog was upto date with vacinations, it doesn’t say fully vaccinated. If after the 21st Dec then they should have done the second set of injections.

It is very common to get dogs after the first set and need to do the second set yourself.

(Her being a recovering heroin addict doesn’t have any relevance here).

Thanks for the replies, £2900 doesn’t seem cheap, bigiwigs until recently was £4K, yes we got puppy last week, the vacination is 7 weeks overdue. Comments about being our fault? Hmm…that’s a matter of opinion. If I buy from eBay I don’t need to research the seller, it’s guaranteed. That’s the point, if I had bought privately, just like not using eBay, you know the risks, buyer beware. Risks to puppy, I’m going by vet’s opinion, are you a vet? Thought not. So far as liability is concerned, that’s currently under discussion, we shall see what happens. I can only say I spoke with S.75 dept direct and they disagree with pets4homes.

it’s interesting that in some responses a kind of Trump attitude comes across, that I and not a scammer or business are to blame. Maybe your parents were very critical of you, you have my sympathies.

It's clear from the vaccination card that only one set had been given. Why did you think both had?

Oh, OP. You really do know very little about dog purchasing and ownership. Bigiwigs is a puppy farm so if that's your benchmark for what constitutes a good breeder (you seem to think price = quality), that's probably why you managed to make such basic errors here.

The reason the price is a problem is because no ethical breeder sells a dog for that price.

The onus was on you to check the vaccinations which would have been on the card (and are in the photos you have attached). If you failed to do this properly, then really it is your fault if the puppy dies because it's your negligence for failing to read documentation properly.

The vet would not tell you that the puppy was going to die.

Pets4homes are not liable (I would know - given how much I am involved in the dog world) given all the mistakes are mistakes you made - paying over the odds, not checking the vaccination history properlyetc.

And there's no 'S.75 department directly' to speak to. It's a law. Not a person or a company. 😂

Slagging the breeder off all over social media - assuming you're on facebook and other places as you are here - is only going to end one way; with you being sued for defamation of character. If she's as awful as you say (although her past has no bearing here), she'll have no qualms about sueing you particularly if (as it appears to be the case) it's your fault for not reading the vaccination card.

Has Pets4Homes changed to a retailer then? When we were looking for a puppy, we did look at pets4homes but it was a listing site, i always understood if I bought an animal from one of the listings, I’d pay the breeder directly, the breeder had paid for the advert, I wouldn’t give money to Pets4Homes.

I guess it depends who you’ve bought your dog from. Were you not given a vaccination record at the time or was it faked?

@FancyBiscuitsLevel it's a listing site not a retailer.

And there was a vaccination record, of once vaccination (pictured at the top). It's clear from that photo that there was no second vaccination, so given the puppies age it would have been obvious that the first vaccination's needed to be done again.

Comparing buying a living, breathing life to an Ebay/Amazon purchase. Idiot.

Due diligence OP, buyer beware. I would not buy from a dog breeder who couldn’t spell puppies.

I would not pay 2900 for a puppy with a come back.

Pets for homes is like buying from FB.

It’s like blaming Autotrader for a dud car you bought from their site

Exactly.

This is all awful. Where is the puppy now and is he/she getting treatment?

So you just… bought a puppy off the internet? You didn’t research different breeders, didn’t see the breeder’s set-up, didn’t see the puppies with their mother and pick one out from the litter? You’re comparing buying A PUPPY to buying something from eBay and your benchmark???

Fucking hell.

Biggiwigs looks dodgy as hell too. Decent breeders don’t market puppies like that.

A. Rich and interesting variety of replies, the auto trader comment is very useful- is pets4homes auto trader or eBay? I wonder about the wellbeing of some respondents.

The puppy is about 22weeks - 5 months old. That is very old to be coming home, has the puppy not been outside in all that time? Is it toilet trained? Done any socialisation? Why was it not sold at the usual time scale?

I’m sorry, something is off here and the advert is false (vaccinations were not upto date).

You don’t pay Pets4homes, but you can pay via them, which does change things but I’m not sure of the legal implications.

OP, I think you should post a very calm factual posts (nothing about the breeders history) on the legal section and ask there if there is any comeback.

”Last week I brought a 22 week old puppy via pets4homes. The advert clearly said that vaccinations were upto date but when I got home there is only the first vaccination and no evidence of the second. Which mean the vaccination programme needs to be completely restarted and the puppy was at risk when we took it outside.

We paid via Pets4Homes payment system.

Is there any legal comeback we can make as surely this is fraud?”

It's neither.

This is all very concerning, are you sure you are able to look after a dog?

I think this is why people need to educate themselves a bit more about buying puppies before getting one. Puppies generally go to their new homes at 8-10 weeks so the breeder only does the first set of vaccinations so at that point ‘fully vaccinated’ would have been an accurate description. If the puppy was still with the breeder at the point when he needed the second dose, she could have organised that or let a buyer know that they would have to start all over again. The breeder clearly isn’t a responsible breeder. Buying puppies is a minefield. I wouldn’t touch Pets4Homes with a barge pole.

We found out puppy on Pets4Homes, did our due diligence, long chats with the breeder, met the whole litter with their mum a couple of times, couldn’t see the dad as he was a stud but were given full details of him and were able to contact his owners, saw full pedigree of both dogs before we brought him home etc.
Pets4Homes is just a classified page for finding a dog it’s down to you to check everything is good before you commit. We only paid Pets4Home a subscription to be able to connect to the breeder, £300 deposit was paid directly to breeder and the rest of the money again directly to breeder once we collected.
when you picked your puppy up surely you went over all the paperwork before you left? This would’ve shown the vaccination was overdue, did it come with 3 months insurance, I think this is quite standard now.
we are still in touch with the breeder and a couple of the families that had other pups from the litter.
In the nicest way possible this is on you.

@HolidayPlanningAgainYou are right. Whatever way you find your puppy, you need to do a lot of research and ask questions.

I bought both of my dogs from an adult on Pets4homes. I went to visit bitch with puppies twice, at 4 weeks and at 8/9 weeks watching bitch feed them. I met dog too. I got a complete pack including papers of pedigree for bitch and dog and including puppies family tree and eye and hip scores for both parent dogs. I also got vet documents including pups had been given first injection and I had to take them back to same vet for pre paid second injection. I had contract to sign too. My own Vet also gave both pups a clean bill of health. I collected them at 12 weeks.

I've sold and bought on Pets4homes. It's just a small ads site.

Responsibility must lie with prospective buyers to vet the sellers.

I would not even consider buying a pup from Pets4Homes. I know the breeder we used would not go anywhere near such a place. Why would a reputable breeder need to sell on there? I’d be immediately suspicious.