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Emmav2020 · 03/04/2024 15:37

Recommendations please as we are looking at getting a family dog.

looking at the following:
small
not yappy
doesn't malt
good with kids - we have a 3 year old who is dog obsessed and a teenager.

Please notes, i grew up with Bernese mountains dogs and leonbergers so im used to the bigger breeds but this time im after a small dog.

Thanks

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Hedgerow2 · 06/04/2024 12:58

RachTheAlpaca · 06/04/2024 10:58

Go to a rescue and see which dog interacts well/tolerates your 3 year old :)

No reputable rescue would rehome a dog with a 3 year old. For very good reasons.

BevS1 · 06/04/2024 13:16

Emmav2020 · 04/04/2024 09:26

@Grumpynan aww hes beautiful. Yes ive been looking at a maltese for a while. i dont mind doing the grooming. x

We have a malshi too.
She has a lovely temperament. Doesn't yap, is very gentle but likes to play too and enjoys lots of cuddles.
Here she is as a puppy.

Looking at getting a puppy.
alizee21g · 06/04/2024 13:38

I would say miniature poodle (they can be cut in Teddy bear style, you don't have to have poodle look), miniature schnauzer, bichon frise. I believe if you want non shedding you'll have grooming. I have a cross which my friend bred; he's half bichon. Groomer every 8 weeks (absolute longest he can go between cuts) is £40, plus brushing at home and sometimes he has a bath too. So brushes, comb, shampoo, conditioner, detangler spray, silver shampoo to maintain white coat (granted its just me haha). But I second puppies are hard work, my youngest was 4 and it was hard enough. For our 2nd dog I will be looking at poodle or schnauzer (my partner is adamant on non shedding breeds).

user09876543 · 06/04/2024 13:40

Mine has this morning ripped my favourite top and scratched the glass on the patio doors jumping up wanting to go outside. You can have her.

AnnieSnap · 06/04/2024 14:09

My advice is don’t get a very small dog with very young children. They can get injured very easily e.g Toy Poodle broke a leg falling off a sofa. A little one carrying a dog around is a recipe for pain and expensive vets fees. I recommend a Miniature Poodle. It’s the middle size of the three Poodles. Still pretty small, but more robust. They don’t shed. They are very clever, so easily trained. They are very friendly (so long as you get one from a decent breeder and not a nervous one from a puppy farm or a fool), very playful, healthy (no extremes in length of nose, length of back or legs etc) and long-lived. Therefore, a perfect little companion throughout childhood.

YellowDaffodilRedTulip · 06/04/2024 14:15

seasaltbarbie · 06/04/2024 10:28

I know you said small but I did a bit of research as am wanting to get a dog once my kids are a bit bigger, and a golden retriever seems to be a great family dog. Smaller than your used to at least.

Golden retriever moult horrendously!

Bichonmum · 06/04/2024 14:15

themadhat · 06/04/2024 10:18

We have a Bichon Frise she’s 7 now and such a lovely little dog. I’ve had two babies since we had her and she’s amazing with them. She doesn’t malt although grooming bills can be expensive. I recently looked after a family members spaniel and my god the hairs!!

Another vote for a Bichon. Mines a lovely little dog, no malting but does need grooming every 6 weeks.

Some can get separation anxiety but we've never had an issue.

BuryBren · 06/04/2024 14:18

I love the Parsons Russell… a Jack Russell with longer legs… consider a rescue, so many are being euthanised in kennels as the results of coming through Covid / the Game of Thrones hits - the rescue centres are overwhelmed. Currently have a loveable rescue Staffy … 8 year old picked up as a stray with cancer…got her from Dogstrust. As a farmers daughter promise me you won’t get a collie… that is unless you own a herd of sheep… 😉

sophiasnail · 06/04/2024 15:54

bunnygeek · 05/04/2024 16:03

Bichon Frise, Poodle, or a bit more unusual, Coton de Tulear.

Best to avoid the poodle crosses, especially when they're crossed with a moulting breed as they could easily just inherit that coat, plus all the other health problems.

As long as parents are tested for breed specific problems, a poodle cross is very unlikely to any more inherited health problems than any other breed/ cross. In fact, hybrid vigour suggests you are less likely to have health problems.

As a poodle owner I would advise a cavapoo would probably suit this family situation better than a pure bred poodle. I adore mine (a toy poodle), but they are very sensitive, ridiculously clever and very, very noisy. I know probably 7 or 8 people with poodle-mixes that make much better family pets!

sophiasnail · 06/04/2024 15:57

AnnieSnap · 06/04/2024 14:09

My advice is don’t get a very small dog with very young children. They can get injured very easily e.g Toy Poodle broke a leg falling off a sofa. A little one carrying a dog around is a recipe for pain and expensive vets fees. I recommend a Miniature Poodle. It’s the middle size of the three Poodles. Still pretty small, but more robust. They don’t shed. They are very clever, so easily trained. They are very friendly (so long as you get one from a decent breeder and not a nervous one from a puppy farm or a fool), very playful, healthy (no extremes in length of nose, length of back or legs etc) and long-lived. Therefore, a perfect little companion throughout childhood.

Some poodles (especially toys), from the most reputable breeders are still super-sensitive little souls. I agree the more robust end of miniature might suit this family, but I think other breeds might be even better!

MrsB74 · 06/04/2024 15:58

amyds2104 · 06/04/2024 10:03

Cocker spaniels are awesome family dogs

Adore our cocker, but my goodness he moults!!! This one is half working/half show and is really chilled. I wouldn’t recommend a full working cocker as they are bonkers (we’ve had one). Whatever you go for breed wise, check out the parents’ temperament. Learnt that one the hard way 😊.

sophiasnail · 06/04/2024 15:59

Have you looked at the Border Terrier? Robust, active but small dogs that meet all the requirements you mention, but don't act like "little dogs"

Harry12345 · 06/04/2024 17:12

unclejonnymademydress · 03/04/2024 15:43

I had a jack Russell who died last year at 17. She meets your criteria except a bit yappy on walks but that wasn't bad. She was amazing with kids too.

Others breeds I recommend you should consider are
Border terrier and King Charles spaniel

They all malt

Isthisasgoodasitis · 06/04/2024 17:13

Emmav2020 · 03/04/2024 15:37

Recommendations please as we are looking at getting a family dog.

looking at the following:
small
not yappy
doesn't malt
good with kids - we have a 3 year old who is dog obsessed and a teenager.

Please notes, i grew up with Bernese mountains dogs and leonbergers so im used to the bigger breeds but this time im after a small dog.

Thanks

I got a Staffordshire bull terrier she adored my daughter who was devastated when she passed away so we got a rescue GSD who my oldest left home with my now 5 year old has a malinoise who’s a gem with her

Harry12345 · 06/04/2024 17:13

Cava poo is your best bet

AnnieSnap · 06/04/2024 18:22

sophiasnail · 06/04/2024 15:54

As long as parents are tested for breed specific problems, a poodle cross is very unlikely to any more inherited health problems than any other breed/ cross. In fact, hybrid vigour suggests you are less likely to have health problems.

As a poodle owner I would advise a cavapoo would probably suit this family situation better than a pure bred poodle. I adore mine (a toy poodle), but they are very sensitive, ridiculously clever and very, very noisy. I know probably 7 or 8 people with poodle-mixes that make much better family pets!

I’m afraid that is not true. According to the Veterinary literature and my vet’s experience, Spaniel/Poodle crosses have a significantly higher than average rate of serious health problems since they often inherit health vulnerabilities from both breeds (including those no longer common in each breed alone). They also often have nightmare coats that are a combination of hair and wool.

AnnieSnap · 06/04/2024 18:24

sophiasnail · 06/04/2024 15:57

Some poodles (especially toys), from the most reputable breeders are still super-sensitive little souls. I agree the more robust end of miniature might suit this family, but I think other breeds might be even better!

Yes, the sensitivity is common in Toys, but not in miniatures.

AnnieSnap · 06/04/2024 18:29

sophiasnail · 06/04/2024 15:54

As long as parents are tested for breed specific problems, a poodle cross is very unlikely to any more inherited health problems than any other breed/ cross. In fact, hybrid vigour suggests you are less likely to have health problems.

As a poodle owner I would advise a cavapoo would probably suit this family situation better than a pure bred poodle. I adore mine (a toy poodle), but they are very sensitive, ridiculously clever and very, very noisy. I know probably 7 or 8 people with poodle-mixes that make much better family pets!

I agree about Toys (as an owner if Standards and Toys for 23-years). That’s why I recommended a Miniature. I’m surprised that you would recommend a spaniel/poodle crossbreed as a Poodle owner yourself. Purebred Poodles are great dogs and have far, far fewer health problems and behavioural problems than purebred Poodles. You may know some who are fine, but ask any vet or behaviourist.

marshmallowfinder · 06/04/2024 18:30

Harry12345 · 06/04/2024 17:12

They all malt

It's moult, not malt!

AnnieSnap · 06/04/2024 18:40

@Harry12345 Poodles and Bichon Frises don’t moult

haveyougotamin · 06/04/2024 18:42

Moult not malt!

Misses point of thread...

OzziePopPop · 06/04/2024 18:52

Bichon Frisée for sure. A big dog in a little package, doesn’t moult, intelligent and cuddly. Super dogs!

InTheShallowTheShalalalalalalalow · 06/04/2024 18:52

haveyougotamin · 06/04/2024 18:42

Moult not malt!

Misses point of thread...

You're on the pet section, you need this one if you just fancy going about correcting people -

www.mumsnet.com/talk/pedants_corner

CrispsandStEtienne · 06/04/2024 18:59

I think it was fair to correct the OP as if she's googling 'dogs that don't moult' she'll want the right spelling.

marshmallowfinder · 06/04/2024 19:02

InTheShallowTheShalalalalalalalow · 06/04/2024 18:52

You're on the pet section, you need this one if you just fancy going about correcting people -

www.mumsnet.com/talk/pedants_corner

It's not a big deal. OP wrote malt too. It's just worth knowing how to spell moult. There is no need to witter on about it on Pedants' Corner.