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There is something that has been bothering me for a while....

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ShinyAndNew · 25/08/2010 14:09

Both on here and in rl people seem to think their pets are disposable. I hate his attitude. I was brought up to believe that when you take on an animal, you take responsibility for that animal, for the rest of it's life no matter what, unless that pet poses an immediate threat to the safety of your family.

By immediate I mean like a hormonal Cockatoo who has never been socialised with men and attempts to rip chunks of your neck off when you enter the same room as it, not the dog who snaps at your darling dc when they pull it's tail once too often.

If you are planning on buying a new pet, please consider the following:

It will live for X amount years. How will your life change in those years i.e. If you buy a cat as baby substitute when you are in your early 20's chances are that cat will still be alive and still be your responsibility when you have an actual baby. So if you don't agree that babies and cats should mix, don't get a cat. Get a goldfish instead.

They are hard work and dogs in particular need ongoing training, which could prove to be expensive, if you need to get in a professional. Are you prepared to put in the time and the money?

They may develop an on going illness that will need life long treatment. Are you prepared to be home at certain times of each day to administer medicine, or to bathe your pet in special shampoo x amount of days a week etc?

If it's a furry animal you must assume that they will leave hair on your furniture. Even if the breeder says they won't. There are never any guarantees.

They might damage your house and eat your favourite shoes. I know a dog who ate a whole bathroom carpet in one sitting. He had only been left for an hour.

They might make nusciences of themselves by mewing or barking or whatever at daft o clock in the morning.

They will probably poo in your house at some point during their lives. They may never stop pooing in your house if they have an illness such as ibs or suffer fits which cause them to loose control of bowels.

You will need to arrange suitable care for them if you wish to go on holiday. This is expensive.

They are expensive.

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Rindercella · 26/08/2010 10:13

Agreed. I would also add that when choosing a pet, people should always choose according to their circumstances, not according to fashion or desire. Eg don't get a border collie needing loads of exercise if you live in a 1 bed inner city flat. That's just cruel and will potentially cause problems in the future. However, if you live on a hill farm, a border collie is probably the perfect breed of dog for you Smile

I would love to get a dog but will wait for a year or two for when both DDs are a little bit older and I can spend more time looking after the dog.

stleger · 26/08/2010 10:20

(I love reading about chickens, they seem to have interesting ishoos! All I know about chicken psychology is from mumsnet!)

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 26/08/2010 10:24

(Chickens have many ishoos. The two being rehomed are attempting to steal eggs. Before the other chickens have finished laying them. This is not a popular move, and may result in chicken-murder. Hence the rehoming)

ShinyAndNew · 26/08/2010 10:28

I don't know anything about chickens, but it sounds like you have made the right choice. My thread was aimed more at the people who just give up on their domestic pets because they are no longer convenient.

Of course there are always reasons why people must re-home their pets because of unforeseen circumstances. But rescue workers would be in a much better position to deal with this, if they weren't inundated with pets people have simply gotten bored of.

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Anniegetyourgun · 26/08/2010 10:32

Y'know Shiney, I'm not just sorry for the cat in the conversation you reported, I'm a bit sorry for the forthcoming baby as well. If it isn't the perfect little doll she's expecting (and how many real babies fit that description?), she might be trying to dump that next!

(Credentials: we have two rescued cats. One of them was indeed from a household that got rid of her and three others to make room for a baby. But I suppose at least they gave them to a shelter rather than turfing them out in the street.)

IMoveTheStars · 26/08/2010 10:33

Well said Shiney.

I've been put off posting for advice on my parents dog because of this attitude.

Vallhala · 26/08/2010 11:34

"Sorry, the dog who is now my dog was a toddler licker in his previous home. He is a gentle soul now, he just needed to learn not to be so enthusiastic!"

PHEW! Thank you Stleger. I get ya now! (It's my age, my brain's turning to mush!).

I wasn't sure if it was YOU who had dumped the dog because of his licking and was prepared to give you both barrels!I'm glad I had the sense to ask and wait for a reply! Blush

Licky, enthusiastic souls are welcome here. They'd match my 3 yo B&T GSD perfectly. :o

stleger · 26/08/2010 12:19

We had a rescue cat who was scared of children; we had our first baby 5 years later by which point the cat just shrugged and ignored...toddler licking dog is fabulous now but needed 'firm but fair' treatment for a while. He was a wild child - that is a difficulty I think people don't foresee, that the cute puppy will not become the perfectly trained dog without some input. (I am in trouble on another site for mentioning rescue dogs too much when people are wanting to buy popular breeds from vile Irish puppy farms - I am Irish and in Ireland...it is horrendous, new legislation might help).

Vallhala · 26/08/2010 12:45

"people are wanting to buy popular breeds from vile Irish puppy farms"

Oh FFS! Argh!

My early involvement in rescue was Irish rescue. I'm English & in England and was helping to get dogs out of Dundalk pound and into UK rescue. The situation out where you are is even worse than here. What's wrong with people that they want to buy from puppy farms?

If you really want to make a point (at risk of pissing the idiots off further), post these on the site:

GSD Rescue, horrific pictures

Celia Hammond Rescue, discoveries in puppy farm, Sussex, England

Lulumaam · 26/08/2010 12:50

I totally agree with the OP.

it is one of the reasons that we did not buy a bearded dragon for DS , apart from the price, the live food, the vivarium , heating costs, the little blighters live for up to 20 years. I explained this to DS, and said, it will still be alive when you leave home and you will have to take it with you...I do not want any more responsibility for living creatures!

we had two dogs, a rabbit and 4 goldfish. one dog and the rabbit have gone to their respective Pet Heavens, goldfish seem to be immortal though !

it is hard going, it is expecnsive and we wont' get any more pets , we want to be a bit freer when the children get older and be able to just go out or away without sorting out animals or worrying an old pet will die whislt we're not there.

see so many people with the dog breed du jour and wonder how long it will be before they are dumped for the latest model

OrmRenewed · 26/08/2010 12:51

Agree with you shiny.

stleger · 26/08/2010 12:58

I don't think they are actively making the choice to be fair, they just want certain popular breeds and look for ads. And the breeders set up meetings, or bring the litter into the house or whatever. My ddog's friend was from a puppy farm, and it took a trip to the vet to sort out d and v, worms, fleas, ear problems etc. and a discussion about the puppy 'being delivered to the house' before they realised. And then the realisation that 6 weeks of age is not 'standard', and 'the papers' never materialised... The puppy farmer.sseem to be getting into the cutely named mixed breeds too - the pugaliers etc. - as they aren't having to compete with proper breeders. Why don't people know? To be honest, I am starting to think a lot of people don't listen to or watch the news, or read any newspapers and haven't a clue about anything much...Rash generalisation perhaps Grin

OrmRenewed · 26/08/2010 13:02

I want a dog. All threee DC want a dog. DH wants a dog perhaps most of all. But are we getting a dog? No Sad Because the poor little bugger would be alone most of the day during term times and after much family angst and discussion we have decided against it. Having had dogs all my childhood I know how much hard work and responsiblity they are - maybe some people don't.

Kaloki · 26/08/2010 13:12

Totally agree with the OP.

We have two rats who we took on after their previous owner didn't have time for them. They also hadn't looked into what care the rats needed and had used litter that they were allergic too. They'd also handled the rats so infrequently that they hadn't notice a massive tumour on one of them. :(

Attenborough · 26/08/2010 13:15

Couldn't agree more with the OP.

A couple of years ago, we badly wanted a cat, but we lived in a rented place and although the landlord was happy enough for us to get one, we knew how hard it would be to find new rented accommodation if we needed it with a pet in tow. Add to that the fact that we'd like to have a baby in a year or two and it just seemed like an awful idea.

However, we've come up with a compromise which, for us, is perfect. We foster for the local shelter, which means that we never have a cat-free house. Sometimes we have mother cats and kittens, sometimes abuse cases, or others where the owner has died or moved away. We've had cats as old as 13/14. We absolutely love it.

It's a little more work than having a pet of our own, as they're often more challenging animals and require more frequent vet visits, and it's always a wrench to part with them, but they all leave us for happy, well-chosen homes.

If we had to move house again, to somewhere which wouldn't take pets, or if I become pregnant, we can stop fostering and know we've done our best for every animal we've had. I'd heartily recommend it to anyone in the same position as us.

WoodRose · 26/08/2010 13:23

Totally agree with OP. We rehomed our first border collie from a lovely family who thought that such an intelligent breed would require no training. She also was kept in a storeroom with NO exercise. Surprise, surprise she was barking endlessly. We got her at 15 weeks and she had never been on grass - although she had had countless shampoos & blowdries and an expensive session with a professional photographer.

We recently have rehomed a young (18mos-2 yrs) Springer Spaniel who was dumped in an Irish pound because he isn't a natural retriever. He was lucky - many Irish gun dogs who don't cut the mustard are simply shot in the head. Sad We are having a few issues with him, but have taken him on so will spend the time and money to sort him out.

DontCallMeBaby · 26/08/2010 13:31

Quite agree. When we got our kittens last year I worked out that if they enjoy even an average lifespan they will still be around when DD goes to university. If they live longer, they may be dependent on me when DD no longer is. Given that DD is 6, it's a sobering thought. DH would really like a dog, I'd quite like one, but it's never going to happen at this rate, and I'd rather that than feel guilty at giving an animal a bit of a rubbish life. I feel bad enough leaving the cats for a weekend, with the neighbour's kids coming in to harrass play with them, full access to inside and outside, and each other for company.

BeenBeta · 26/08/2010 13:33

Totally agree. I was brought up with undreds of dogs, dozens of cats, budgerigars and ponies and thousands of farm animals yet have never owned a single animal all my adult life. I would really like a dog but I dont because my lifestyle does not suit it.

People so often do not think of the burden and responsibility of keeping an animal. We have a throw away, immediate gratification society and that goes for pets as well.

It really makes me grind my teeth sometimes.

silverfrog · 26/08/2010 13:52

Completely agree.

We had an awful time trying to re-home ur (very much loved, very much wanted) dog, as all the rescue places were full.

We had to re-home our Rottie (and no, not because she snarled at our pfb Wink)

dd1 is ASD, and despite crawling around with our dog when little, no issues at all, all fo a sudden when dd1 was about 2, she developed a dog phobia.

No idea why, it came on suddenyl (dog certainly never did anything to bring it on).

We worked for ages (over 2 years) to try to re-integrate, but it wasn't happening. our poor dog was banished out of the space we were in - dd1 just could not cope, even with thte sight of her.

dh & I took it in turns to get up early to take her for walks, and took it in turns in the evening too. cuoldn't get a local dog walker to take her on because she was a Rottie (genuinely the nicest, softest dog I have ever known)

we struggled on, not able to find her a rescue place, and eventually we did find a family that wanted her. she is happy now, and ha the life she deserves - full of family fun. thelife she would have had with us if dd1 hadn't developed her phobia (another coulpe of years on, we are still working on the phobia. dd1 can now stroke small animals, and is working on being able to walk past dogs at a distance. she no longer always screams and wets herself if she sees one, which is progress)

stleger · 26/08/2010 13:56

Blush at being Irish. Our local rescue does a lot of greyhound rehoming - greyhound 'industry' is funded by a lot of taxpayers money. So many old or slow ones end up rehomed abroad, so many more end up God only knows where. We intended to get a greyhound, but dd2 decided we needed a dog who looks like a teddy crossed with a kangaroo. Are huskies becoming popular in the UK? I know about half a dozen, all living in totally inappropriate homes and causing chaos. (They are truly gorgeous puppies though, and I can see why people are tempted).

Alouiseg · 26/08/2010 13:58

Do you think bringing back the dog licence in a modern form would help or hinder the problem of dog abandonment? I really can't make my mind up, and I am rarely, if ever stuck for an opinion Confused

BeenBeta · 26/08/2010 14:01

Yes I do think we need to bring back the dog licence. It should only be given once the home has been inspected.

YunoYurbubson · 26/08/2010 14:01

I had this conversation recently:

Her: Yeh, we're having to get rid of our rats now.
Me: Oh dear, why's that?
Her: Because I'm pregnant.
Me: Oh. Oh? Umm...
Her: Yeh, I just don't think I'll be able to manage sorting them out, what with the pregnancy, and then having a baby and everything...
Me: You fucking lamewad. (Is what I didn't say)

Vallhala · 26/08/2010 16:01

Yuno, please administer a sharp slap! Then pass the rats this way, I love them! :)

Although a lone parent I'm sure I'd find time for them (together with the 2 daughters, one of whom has emotional/behavioural issues, 3 dogs, 3 cats and pet ferret).

Some people do talk a load of crap, don't they!

YunoYurbubson · 26/08/2010 16:09

Yes, I have 2 children and a husband who works overseas, yet somehow I manage to find the time to look after our two ratties. Clearly I must be wonderwoman.

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