Teachers

[Pliudev]

Surely it's not unreasonable to ask all Mumsnetters who have been vocal in wanting their children back in school to sign the petition demanding that teachers are vaccinated ASAP?

Here's the link:

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/554316

Well, everyone should be - and is being - vaccinated ASAP.

The vaccine priority is based on risk of serious disease and death. Older teachers and those with serious health problems are already prioritised. Younger, healthy teachers have a very low risk of death if they catch the disease.

Who would you like pushing down the priority list?

That’s not me being snarky, I’m genuinely asking. If you want all teachers moved up the list, do you want them ahead of everyone else still to be vaccinated? Or would you slot them in after some groups but before some others?

This has been done to death. Those teachers who are at risk of death or hospitalisation will be covered by the normal groupings.

I’m a teacher, young and healthy, think schools should reopen ASAP and am happy to wait my turn for the vaccine behind those who are more vulnerable.

Totally unreasonable as there’s no evidence to support it, prioritising types of work slows the process down and there are loads of more at risk professions. Shut up and get on with it like everyone else.

Teachers at risk will already be covered by the existing group determinations.

I’d rather nursery staff were prioritised, they actually have no way of social distancing and often young children can be symptomless carriers. And they also haven’t spent the best part of a year constantly moaning and making themselves out to be so hard done by.

QuidditchQueen

It's been done to death that they have taken a lot of people out of the CV groups so no, not everyone in the CV group is eligible.

2/3 of the staff in my school are either ECV or CV and not one is eligible for vaccination.

Ostryga

This isn't true, not all teachers who are ECV or CV are eligible for the vaccine.

Every one of these OPs makes the relationship between teachers and parents even more difficult. I'm starting to think that some people are doing this deliberately to wind people up.

If someone is ECV they will have a vaccine. Making up lies doesn’t help teacher’s cases in the slightest.

I think what's odd is that the government (and clearly many parents) seem to think that the kids are having a decent education in schools when they have been open this year. I can tell you that teaching from a taped off box at the front of a room is not teaching! The kids spend a whole day in one small room with 31 other kids - if you are in a class with a load of disengaged clowns the you are stuck with them for 5 hours a day. We can't talk 1-1 with students or look at their work unless they shout it out across a room at us. We can't move around the room and see what the kids are doing (many at the back are doing sweet FA and by the time we realise it's too late.) The kids can't get up and move around. There is no group work. Behaviour management is very hard. We can't take work home to mark so assessing them takes longer and it takes much longer for us to correct misconceptions or adapt learning. Yes it's better than being online, but overall it's difficult, boring, uninspiring and ineffective for all of us.

There is A LOT of catching up to do.

Let's be honest - the kids will continue to be all over one another without masks on at lunchtime and on the bus (if you haven't teenagers at lunchtime in a pandemic don't bother commenting!) so the measures mentioned above are really there to protect teachers and not the students or their families.

So the quicker you vaccinate teachers the quicker we can get back to normal. Until then we are just hanging on and trying to minimise further damage to their education - no 'catching up' can happen until teachers can teach at least as freely as we could pre-covid!

I'm not saying vaccinate a teacher over someone seriously vulnerable - but if we genuinely value our kids education as much as we all say we do then the quicker we do get teachers safe the better ...

Teachers over 50 will be back at work before being vaccinated. All of the clinically vulnerable people won't be vaccinated before then either.
Vaccinations could mean that your dc's teacher isn't off for three weeks and away from her class.
I don't think it's enough though as pupils will stay bring the virus home and many parents are at risk as well.

I am ECV and not eligible.

This has already been discussed in parliament awhile ago. The conclusion was they weren’t going to prioritise them as they are not the most at risk of serious illness or death.

Ostryga - Why would I lie that I am not eligible?

I take Tacrolimus immunosupressant. I am not on the list.

Special school staff in particular I think should be vaccinated forthwith as they have personal care involved in their work.

Oh and if I have to isolate for 2 weeks because I catch the virus then that is 200 odd kids who don't get any real teaching in a core subject for two weeks ... Schools do not have lots of spare teachers to just step in!

@Awalkintime you can sort out your own vaccine very easily, either by speaking to your GP, or booking one through the NHS. Be proactive.

Ostryga

I never would've thought of that. Funnily enough my phone call to my GP - one of many - on Monday followed by a strongly worded email has hit a brick wall.

I can't book one through NHS direct as I am not eligible and have not received a letter. I have specifically been told no, I do not qualify. Nor do the colleagues at my school who also have vulnerabilities.

Oddly enough, they too have been proactive. We are not sitting on our backsides but you carry on suggesting otherwise.

@Ostryga thank you for thinking of nursery staff (although I’m a childminder and would prefer it to be all early years staff ). It feels like Early years staff have been forgotten about all the way through the pandemic, apart from when Boris wanted to keep parents working, so decided to keep us open during lockdown 3. We might feel unsafe From COVID, often, While doing our jobs, but it’s very rare to see early years staff moaning about the lack of vaccines/testing facilities/lack of social distancing etc in the media.

@Maryann1975 yes should have put early years!

Thank you for all you’ve been doing! Early years has kept me, and I know many, many others, sane during this mad time. And I have never seen anyone complain, even when covered in snot and urine and sick. You could teach teachers a thing or two

@awalkintime, if a person is CEV and have shielding letter they should have been offered vaccine a couple of weeks ago. The CV are now eligible. If all of these teachers are genuinely CEV or CV (group 6) why can't they have vaccine? Group 6 are having theirs now. Anyone CV is in group 6. If they are not in group 6 they can't genuinely be CV. Maybe they are just making it up. Everyone has to be patient and take their turn. Too many people claiming to be CV when they aren't.

Well, nothing like a good bitch about teachers on a sunny afternoon, eh.

@saraclara

Every one of these OPs makes the relationship between teachers and parents even more difficult. I'm starting to think that some people are doing this deliberately to wind people up.

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