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petition to stop nursery fees charges during bank holidays

112 replies

Laitan · 07/02/2020 14:13

Please kindly sign below petition. We should not pay for services not recived.

chng.it/TwBF48b5KX

OP posts:
Witchend · 07/02/2020 14:39

I'm starting a partition to say spa days should be a free option from all hotels.
After all many people who can't afford it would then be able to benefit.

LoudBatPerson · 07/02/2020 14:39

Complaining about verbal abuse and then following up by insinuating a posters child might be a future "knife stabber", doesn't exactly give you the high ground.

londonrach · 07/02/2020 14:39

How on earth is the nursery going to pay the staff if not from the parents. Op think you need to rethink this. Do you get paid on bank holidays.

BumpkinSpiceBatty · 07/02/2020 14:39

Lot's of well thought out and progressive petitions already exsist that actually benefit the early years work force and in turn the children they care for.
OP you could check out champagne nurseries on lemonade funding to educate yourself.

wombat1a · 07/02/2020 14:40

Surely the 'running costs' are paid for my the parents putting their kids into the nursery? So yes in theory not charging for bank holidays is easy, just remove them and then increase the price for all the other days to cover for them. Job done.

cologne4711 · 07/02/2020 14:41

I don't think nurseries should charge for days on which they are not providing a service

Yes, I've no idea why the OP is getting such a hard time here. If you pay for a full time place it gets swallowed up in the monthly amount, so it's not as painful.

But when I used my childminder my son went Mondays and Fridays, and she used to charge for bank holidays if she wasn't on holiday (so she didn't charge for the August bank holiday or Christmas but charged for the rest) even though she wouldn't have worked those days and wasn't available to work. She wasn't my employee, she was providing a service, so when you don't provide the service you don't get paid. But I accepted it as she didn't charge for all of them, so there was a level of fairness.

Government funding isn't relevant to the question of whether someone should charge for a service they are not providing.

Hercwasonaroll · 07/02/2020 14:41

Knife stabber? WTF are you talking about?!

Willow2017 · 07/02/2020 14:41

Can see a lot of people on here can't hold a conversation without resulting to insults. No wonder today's kids are turning out the way they are.......
@Hercwasonaroll, hopefully you are not raising a knife stabber....

Pot and kettle?

WTF is a "knife stabber"?

Gillian1980 · 07/02/2020 14:42

Our nursery doesn’t charge for bank holidays.

I think issues such as this are what people take into account as part of choosing a nursery that works for them.

AutumnRose1 · 07/02/2020 14:42

I’m baffled.

memberofseven · 07/02/2020 14:46

I started off thinking the op was incredibly thick but actually I think she has a point that the cost of bank holiday cover should be absorbed by the business. The consequence, of course, is that fees go up for everyone. But on reflection I don't think it's fair that parents that use Monday nursery end up shouldering the whole of that cost. It is really a business cost and should be reflected in the standard fee that everyone pays.

SoupDragon · 07/02/2020 14:47

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june2007 · 07/02/2020 14:48

AS a nursery practitioner I want to get paid for bank hols and the money has to come from some where.

paddlingwhenIshouldbeworking · 07/02/2020 14:48

Utterly pointless petition. All businesses charge for their costs across the year, not day by day, however they advertise their final sale price.

You pay a monthly/weekly charge or whatever. If you want the charge to reflect the bank holidays then all that will happen is you'll get a rate which looks discounted for 4 days instead of 5 but rate for all the non bank holiday days will increase so the overall margin is the same.

Oulu · 07/02/2020 14:48

I don't think nurseries should charge for days on which they are not providing a service

On that logic, no-one who takes the day off on a Bank Holiday should get paid, because they're not providing any service.

Drabarni · 07/02/2020 14:50

OP, you are paying for the running costs though.
What a weird idea.
Why should nursery workers not be paid for bank Holidays, I bet you do.?

Laitan · 07/02/2020 14:52

where have I said nursery workers should not be paid for Bank holidays? And no as a contract worker, only get paid for the days actually worked, not bank holidays!

OP posts:
Drabarni · 07/02/2020 14:52

Oh and there's a board for petitions.

Laitan · 07/02/2020 14:53

as a contract worker, I only get paid for days worked not bank holidays

OP posts:
LoudBatPerson · 07/02/2020 14:53

The consequence, of course, is that fees go up for everyone. But on reflection, I don't think it's fair that parents that use Monday nursery end up shouldering the whole of that cost.

^That would be a reasonable thing to ask for. Asking for nursery's to be banned from charging for bank holidays, isn't the way to go about it though. Regardless of if the charge is shown as a charge for those days or split out over the rest of the year, the money to cover bank holidays has to come from somewhere.

An awful lot of nursery are likely to close over the next few years as it is, so giving them extra costs won't help families in the long run.

HighlandYak · 07/02/2020 14:53

where have I said nursery workers should not be paid for Bank holidays?
So how do you propose they do that without charging parents?

underneaththeash · 07/02/2020 14:53

I don't think you're being unreasonable at all OP. It's hardly fair to pay for a service you don't receive when the business isn't open to provide that service.

However, it's not something that the government could legislate for, it's too specific and would need to apply to more than one business.

Requring payment on a day when the business is not open could be, though considered an "unfair term" causing a significant imbalance between the consumer and the business.

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/450440/Unfair_Terms_Main_Guidance.pdf
If you read from clause 2.14 onwards, they are useful.

TheTeenageYears · 07/02/2020 14:54

Parents have always covered the cost, it’s just built into the overall fees. When legal holiday entitlements increased for all employed workers in the U.K. all providers will have put up their costs by x amount per hour or per day to cover the additional costs. Unless a provider has said to parents we are now going to charge you for x number of bank holidays in a year even though we won’t be open the petition doesn’t really make sense and even then I suspect it’s a very localised issue. Most providers will just announce a fee increase to cover increased costs and everyone would pay their proportionate amount depending on how much they use the nursery services.

adaline · 07/02/2020 14:54

where have I said nursery workers should not be paid for Bank holidays?

If nurseries stop charging for them, where do you think the money will come from to pay for it?

And no as a contract worker, only get paid for the days actually worked, not bank holidays!

Your choice to do that line of work though, surely? Nursery workers are employed and therefore have holiday rights, which includes being paid for all bank holidays.

MaggieFS · 07/02/2020 14:55

I think it's complex, but for those saying 'don't you get paid bank holidays'... well, yes and no... I'm paid a monthly salary, so I don't get less for the months which include a bank holiday, but my salary includes 24 days paid leave plus bank holidays. Argue it either way as to whether I am paid for those, or they've been taken into account.

DS is in full time nursery, and we pay the same each month, even though they close for a week at Christmas and aren't open bank holidays.

BUT if my DC was only in, for example, Mondays and Tuesdays, then I think it's reasonable to feel it's unfair as I would be disproportionately hit by the bank holidays. Not sure what the answer is though.

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