Please sign the petition: No Coalition between the Tories and the DUP **Nearly 400,000 signatures already!

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www.change.org/p/may-out-no-coalition-with-the-d-u-p

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Someone, please explain how they can just pick a party that hasn't garnered the most votes? It makes no sense to me...

It doesn't seem like democracy to me, that the Tories can just choose a party with a minority of votes (in the context of the whole of the UK) to form a government with.

Also, could a coalition with the DUP jeopardise the Good Friday Agreement? Genuine question - could somebody more knowledgeable shed light on this?

Didn't the other parties (except Labour) say that they would not form a coalition with the Tories? I thought this was their only option...

I've signed although I highly doubt TM will listen to anyone ever

The DUP are abhorrent, they don't belong in government

Done.Thanks

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Meh, let her, this will damage the Tories more than anything else. If she doesn't do it Corbyn will try for the 'Rainbow Alliance' which sounds pretty but will be too wishy washy to do anything and will undermine the Labour progress. If May carries on this way we'll be back in the polling stations in less than a year with many very pissed off Tory voters looking for an alternative

Kind of pointless petition. You'll just get Labour voters signing because they don't like the fact the Tories are in the driving seat. Tory voters will be happy they have formed the government. It's just trying to rerun the election basically.

As I understand it there is no plan for a formal coalition. The Conservatives have formed the minority government with the most seats by a clear margin and close to a majority. So the petition is incorrect.

They are agreeing on a confidence and supply arrangement with the DUP for important votes. Issues such as Brexit the DUP would be likely to vote in favour of along with the Tories anyway.

What the agreement will enable is a period of political stability which is what we desperately need. Noone is ready for another General Election immediately and the result could be even more divisive next time round.

Also, could a coalition with the DUP jeopardise the Good Friday Agreement?

Absolutely. The DUP never agreed with the GFA. The Westminster government can no longer claim neutrality. The NI assembly is currently suspended - the deadline for them to agree a new assembly keeps being extended, but WM cannot be involved in negotiations because they are no longer neutral. If assembly not up running by end of month then direct rule resumes (or deadline extended).

This could so easily end up in violence again.

They can it because they won the election.

As the government they will do a better job with a stronger majority, and since a hung parliament can be bad for us all (especially given potential economic turmoil) I don't think we should necessarily try to burn it down.

They will probably get funding concessions and if they really play hardball they could get votes on some minor legislation - there is no way you will see a successful three line whip to repeal gay marriage or ban abortion where all the women and gay men in the conservative party are right on board, the very idea of these things is demented, and nothing more than scaremongering.

I don't agree that it's a pointless petition.

I have nothing against coalitions as such and think they are a perfectly valid way of running a democracy.

I don't expect it to result in a Labour government and I'm not even sure I would want that to happen.

But it will, I hope, send a clear message to May that it does matter who you ally yourself with, that she cannot count on the support of the electorate for pretty well anything she decides to do to maintain power, that the Good Friday agreement matters, and that misogyny, homophobia etc are valid concerns. Oh, and that we don't care for hypocrisy.

"What the agreement will enable is a period of political stability which is what we desperately need. Noone is ready for another General Election immediately and the result could be even more divisive next time round."

Tell that to Northern Ireland!!

What Theresa May has just done is recklessly stupid and shows her unfitness for office.

And I am not actually sure that a hung parliament is such a bad thing at a time when leading politicians show such a marked preference for sudden U-turns, tough talking and pushing through of ill-conceived ideas. I think we might actually do better if we were to be forced to sit down and think things through a little bit. And that we would almost certainly get a better Brexit that way.

Is this what people do now when they don't get their own way??

I hope you know it's not going to make a blind bit of difference when over 13.5 million people voted for the Tories.

I think it's something people do to show they don't agree, rather than didn't get their own way. I'm pretty sure nobody who voted either Labour OR Tory had this in mind!

I think a petition is a perfectly valid way to show you aren't on board with something whatever party you voted for.

Fair enough if you don't agree, you can be pissed of or feel how ever you want about it, everyone has the right to an opinion etc.

But surely you accept that more people have an opposing view?

It happened with Brexit too, more people voted to leave but everyone who voted to stay were still trying to get the result over turned.

Sorry, just doesn't make sense to me and I'm sick of people complaining about the result.

It's nothing to do with complaining at being on the 'losing side' or not accepting that others have an opposing view. Regardless of which party individuals voted for, NOBODY voted for this setup that Theresa May is intending to impose on us.

Saying we should stop complaining is a ridiculous argument, Anyone who disagrees strongly with the course their country is taking is entitled to make their feelings known by every (lawful) means available.

People are signing because of the DUP and the Treseme NOT the tory win. Even tory voters are signing it as no one can quite believe that Treseme would go that low and form a government with those scumbags. Personally I'm not a homophobic, misogynistic, terrorist supporting twat so have signed. Silly Treseme and her band of orange scarfed muppets.

Signed. Thank you for sharing it.

"Fair enough if you don't agree, you can be pissed of or feel how ever you want about it, everyone has the right to an opinion etc.

But surely you accept that more people have an opposing view? "

The petition is not about having a Tory majority. I have lived through many Tory governments and never felt the need or right to sign a petition about that.

It's about a Tory/DUP coalition, which was never part of the Tory election campaign, which is against the Good Friday Agreement and which threatens to destabilise Northern Ireland. As well as enabling the DUP to use their hold over the PM to push through anti-abortion, anti-gay and creationist legislation.

Is this what people do now when they don't get their own way??

No one voted for a Tory/DUP coalition of chaos. This isn't about getting your own way

I hope you know it's not going to make a blind bit of difference when over 13.5 million people voted for the Tories.

And over 18.5 million people didn't vote for Tories.

I support using the DUP - it is how our system works. Thankfully petitions don't decide things in the UK.

7461Mary18 Sat 10-Jun-17 16:53:07
"I support using the DUP - it is how our system works."

It is not, however, how the Good Friday Agreement works. That specifically states that the sovereign government is to adopt a stance of "rigorous impartiality".

So are you prepared to see the GFA ripped up? Have you thought through the potential consequences?