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Mumsnet posters and their issue with a certain MP

122 replies

BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability · 15/01/2014 12:08

Just in case anyone isnt up to date on this :)

Here is the blog link explaining what happened

Here is one of the many newspaper stories covering it (this one is the telegraph)

Here is the one from the mail, for those who are ok giving them clicks, which includes the extra spicy tidbit of a mn posters real name and occupation

now for the important bit...
Here is the petition

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BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability · 15/01/2014 21:30

Little bump :)

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FrontForward · 15/01/2014 21:33

How is the campaign going?

uptheanty · 15/01/2014 21:34

Signed.

Custardo · 15/01/2014 21:38

signed

RabbitRabbit78 · 15/01/2014 21:47

Signed

BurningBridges · 15/01/2014 21:55

Bit lost on this - so are you saying that he hasn't done any good work on reforming the family courts and if so why's that?

I know that even if he was Mother Theresa then his doing "good work" wouldn't excuse what he posted, but just don't understand why he is so unpopular.

BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability · 15/01/2014 22:17

Personally, I take issue with the advice that mentally ill parents should stay away from their doctors, or if you take your children to a&e with an injury, you will lose your children. Advising every parent involved with ss that they should flee the uk, regardless of whether they are guilty or not. And then, the posting of confidential information of a child in care in the UK, threatening mn users and sharing their real names on mn. And when the real name posts were deleted by mn, posting them on his blog, which was picked up by the mail and shared with the world.
I think thats it, but glad for anyone to add more :)

On his good side... Umm... Well, apparently he likes fluffy little kittens?
Apart from that, I'm drawing a blank.
Do you have any links I could read through?

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StormEEweather · 15/01/2014 22:37

Signed

BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability · 15/01/2014 23:33

Thanks storm!

Bump

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trixymalixy · 15/01/2014 23:40

Signed.

MoominsYonisAreScary · 15/01/2014 23:49

Done

BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability · 15/01/2014 23:55

Thanks trixy and moomins!

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ISpyPlumPie · 16/01/2014 00:05

Signed

BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability · 16/01/2014 00:27

Thank you!

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nennypops · 16/01/2014 01:10

BurningBridges, it's difficult to know where to begin about the reasons for Hemmings' unpopularity. They include:
Constantly saying that social workers wrongly take babies into care to meet non-existent adoption targets;
Saying that experts, parents' lawyers, doctors, police and even the courts collude with them in that;
Going to court in one well-known case where he completely messed up the parents' case for them with utterly stupid allegations that their own solicitor had falsified her file in circumstances where she could have had no conceivable motive for doing so;
Alleging that a social worker had been dismissed for recommending that a child stay with her parents, then producing as 'proof' a document that showed the opposite. The document contained unredacted details of the name of the social worker concerned.
Allying himself publicly with Ian Josephs, who seriously advises people who suspect their partners of abusing their children not to tell the police of social services;
Constantly avoiding awkward questions such as why on earth people like parents' lawyers would want to take part in the conspiracy to steal children;
Producing as "proof" of alleged adoption incentives loads of meaningless statistics with no information as to where the data in those stats comes from and no proof that it is accurate;
Advising parents who are worried about child protection investigations to disappear abroad;
Advising parents who come to him for help to sack their lawyers and instead accept the services of his gophers who have no automatic right to speak in court and no realistic training;
Seriously misrepresenting relevant facts - e.g. in the Italian baby case, saying that the mother was sectioned for a mere "panic attack" and colluding with people producing rubbish such as the allegation that social services ripped the baby from her womb;
Terrifying parents into believing that they cannot safely take their children to A&E when they have accidents, thus depriving their children of essential treatment and putting them in danger of investigation for failing to get treatment.
And so on and so on. And that's before I touch on threats to and outing of MN posters.

But perhaps his worst problem is that, as an MP, he is actually in a position to do something constructive about the defects in the system - for instance, lobby for adequate funding and training for social services. But he chooses instead to carry on with his spurious campaign and to have a lovely time wandering around self-publicising and posturing.

jacks365 · 16/01/2014 02:51

Signed.

GoshAnneGorilla · 16/01/2014 03:29

Signed and bumped.

What makes matters worse is that he's an MP in Birmingham, where SS are known to be struggling and ineffectual, he should be working to fight this for the good of the children of Birmingham, instead indulging in very dangerous, David Icke-style shenanigans.

Which brings me to my other point, I do not think Hemming cares about children at all, nor does Ian Josephs. They just view them as parental property, hence they'd rather have them remain in abusive homes or if they are removed, then stay in care and never be adopted. Sad

Thumbwitch · 16/01/2014 03:45

Signed and spread.

And yes, I've had emails from Change about a few of their petitions that have made a difference; but the numbers need to be higher than the Govt ones, I think.

Nothing to stop anyone doing a govt site petition as well though, is there?

nennypops · 16/01/2014 07:33

Bumped

BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability · 16/01/2014 08:58

Thank you middle-of-the-night signers!

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BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability · 16/01/2014 09:52

Its only four away from 200 now!

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LokiIsMine · 16/01/2014 11:20

I know! :)

LokiIsMine · 16/01/2014 11:25

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BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability · 16/01/2014 12:00

Yes! I wonder if its worth someone putting a link in feminism with that paragraph, just in case the posters there havent seen this? Prob best its not me, as I already have one thread Grin

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ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 16/01/2014 12:09

No one that thinks it's a good idea to post confidential information on Mumsnet, while drunk, should be in public office. It's not about whether the court system should be more open and if SWs lie, it's about his appalling lack of judgement. If he was a bit less of a fucking idiot he could have just said that he thinks it should be more open and transparent and encouraged open debate and talked about areas he thinks need improvement. Instead he had a few drinks and tried to be a smart arse. And then failed. And then backtracked and tried to smear other people to hide his own failings. And we're allowed to petition against him because he should know better. He's an MP. We should expect more from our elected officials.

Also, he's a smugfaced twatwaffle.

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