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Pedants' corner

I have lost two words

267 replies

MaMight · 15/12/2009 09:18

This is not actually pendantry, but I thought I would have most luck if I put it to the Pedants' Corner squatters.

Two separate questions:

  1. This morning I called my daughter a "daft bessom" and then realised that I have only ever read the word 'bessom' and don't know it's literal meaning. Not wanting to unwittingly use an offensive word, I looked it up... and can't find it anywhere. There is a word bessom isn't there? What does it mean?
  1. Years ago I had a 'Word of the Day' calendar. It gave me a word that means a collections of jams, marmalades, honeys etc. It was the breakfast equivalent of 'condiments' I loved this word and used it as often as I could poncily shoe-horn it into conversation. Now I have forgotten it completely. Anyone know?

PS apologies for any spelling or grammar mistakes. I'm not really literate enough to post here, I know .

OP posts:
PoppyAmex · 10/09/2010 09:24

Just found this on a blog: "The glorious world of opsony"

Until a few years ago, I knew of no English equivalent of the word pålegg. To me, this represented a gaping hole in the English language, as pålegg is a word that I ? and all my fellow Norwegians ? use almost every single day. Pålegg is a collective term which literally means ?On (på) put (legg)?, i.e. ?things you put on top of something?. In this case ?something? is bread. The reason why the English seem to somehow manage to get by without this word, must be that they have a tendency to eat sandwiches consisting of two slices of bread with fillings between. ?Fillings? doesn?t quite cover pålegg, incidentally, as it incorporates such things as mayonnaise, vegetables and chutney. Together with my father ? who like myself is a bit of a vocab-geek ? I commenced the quest for this missing word that would allow us to talk about ham, cheese, pate and chocolate spread without drawing breath. And Eureka! After a year or two we stumbled across the English word opsony, which refers to certain things you may put on top of a slice of bread. Never heard it? Now you have! Opsony ? the word that represents your key to the Norwegian breakfast buffet.

TonariNoTotoro · 10/09/2010 09:26
Shock

We can't finally have the answer...

PoppyAmex · 10/09/2010 09:26

To clarify, here's the definition (seems to be an unused Latin word)

opsony (plural opsonies)

  1. (obsolete) Any food that is eaten with bread
PoppyAmex · 12/09/2010 08:47

OP please return and put me out of my misery!

Jux · 12/09/2010 12:11

..

midnightsun · 13/09/2010 19:11

I am going to attempt to revive opsony, in any case. I live in Norway and am asked occasionally by Norwegians* what the English call "pålegg".

*usually thinking they already know the answer and consequently smirking in a superior smugness that for once Norwegian is not English's vocabularily challenged cousin.

"PÃ¥legg? Oh, everybody calls it opsony. Didn't you learn that at school in your English classes? Tut, tut." Grin

(I probably can't do so much about the variety of words for mountain, wind and snow...)

PoppyAmex · 13/09/2010 21:44

"Oh, everybody calls it opsony."
Love the casual tone - poor Norwegians :o

Thanks for the bump, midnightsun. This thread has been driving me bonkers.

Jux · 14/09/2010 08:30

So do you say "dd get the opsonies while I'm making the tea", or do you use the singular to encompass everything?

PoppyAmex · 15/09/2010 10:06

That appears to be the plural - doesn't really roll off the tongue, does it?

loopyloops · 17/09/2010 19:02

It has got to be "opsony" or "opsonium", where's the OP? Can anyone CAT her? Anyone paid for it?

PoppyAmex · 18/09/2010 23:30

Yes, please. I'm starting to harbour evil thoughts towards the poor unsuspecting OP.

Miasma · 28/09/2010 08:25

Is it Trenklements?

I look after an old chap who used it to describe 'a collection of things' earlier this morning. Of course my first thought was this post Grin

hairymelons · 28/09/2010 08:47

Can't believe I've just read this entire thread....am going to PM her and put us all out of our misery.

NormaStanleyFletcher · 28/09/2010 08:50

WHy oh why did I click on this thread

hairymelons · 28/09/2010 09:45

PM doesn't work, grrr.

blondette · 28/09/2010 13:14

I looked up 'opsony' and it came up with the Manx word 'kytshen' - maybe that was it? At least this will "bump" the thread and MaMight might come back and look at it again.

StealthPolarBear · 28/09/2010 13:52

ooh how exciting, do we have an answer?

Jux · 29/09/2010 09:34

I don't think MaMight is coming back Sad so I think we need to reach a consensus among ourselves.

I'll opt for opsony. Anyone else? Any other nominations?

StealthPolarBear · 29/09/2010 13:43

MaMight was last seen in april - anyone know why she hasn't been back?

StealthPolarBear · 29/09/2010 13:43

she must have deregistered too if we can't pm her

PoppyAmex · 30/09/2010 08:11

Can we just pretend I was right, pretty please? It's driving me bonkers Blush

hairymelons · 30/09/2010 09:49

You were right, Poppy.

That's what the breakfast spreadables are going to be known as in our house from now on anyhow!

PoppyAmex · 30/09/2010 10:03

That's all I needed (for closure, you understand).

Hairymelons, You are very pretty and deserve to have your hair braided and be fed velvet cake a regular intervals! Thank you!

PoppyAmex · 30/09/2010 10:04

"at" regular intervals (blah)

Jux · 30/09/2010 11:30

Is that consensus then?

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