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'Ate' or 'Et' - pronunciation question

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TsarChasm · 07/07/2008 10:47

I say 'ate' (sounding like 'eight')

For some reason my dc have started saying 'et' for 'ate'.

I'm not sure if this is a dialect thing. If it is, I'm not sure where they've picked it up from because I don't use it. Nor have I heard the word said that way here (south).

Is it an incorrect pronunciation though? Or do both ways apply?

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daisylaisy · 07/07/2008 10:51

As in eight is correct.

Et is frightfully common daaahlink

Pruners · 07/07/2008 10:54

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bythepowerofgreyskull · 07/07/2008 10:55

ate (eight) in this household.

PeterDuck · 07/07/2008 10:55

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TsarChasm · 07/07/2008 10:58

Ok, will be correcting them with a ruler next time I hear it!

No Emmerdale here...just thinking though..aha, bingo..dd's teacher has a very broad Yorkshire accent. Could be him she's picked it up from perhaps? Is it 'et' in Yorkshire?

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SixSpotBurnet · 07/07/2008 11:08

We have had this before and I am sure that "et" came out as the "proper" way to say it. DH (whose mother was quite posh) says "et".

I say "eight" but I am a terrible pleb!

bungalowbelle · 07/07/2008 11:20

My dh says 'ett'. I've always corrected him in the strongest possible terms. It sounds like a child's made up word to me. He is from Birmingham so ...

AllFallDown · 07/07/2008 11:36

Pronunciation for these kinds of words isn't a pedantry issue, it's a snobbery issue. So properly it should go in AIBU ... (to wish my children wouldn't say 'et'). Unless they eat two biscuits and tell you: et tu, mummy.

Hecate · 07/07/2008 11:37

It's ate.

at 'et'

TsarChasm · 07/07/2008 11:42

Lol at 'et tu' - moving away from the north of England and over to Latin it seems

I'm not too bothered by it. Missing off 'h's' and the the ends of words annoys me much much more.

But then, oh dear, I do that too sometimes, I suspect

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VintageGardenia · 08/07/2008 08:33

Strange, in our family we shudder at "eight" and always say "et". When it comes to pronunciation your own way always seems right, doesn't it?

colditz · 08/07/2008 08:36

In Leicestershire here, et is widespread. Naturally last time ds1 said it, I bleached his tongue.

Tech · 08/07/2008 21:27

Think this is one where "et" is perfect pronunciation, as used by toffs. But then insecure non-U middle classes start thinking it's common to say "et", so affect "eight" pronunciation instead, and start inappropriately looking down on persons who quite correctly say et.

Oxford dictionary puts et as first pronunciation:

eat
? verb (past ate /et, ayt/; past part. eaten) 1

Yours,
Nancy Mitford (turning in her grave)

morocco · 08/07/2008 21:38

'perfect pronunciation' doesn't really exist, there are dialects and accents that are high or low prestige but that's all. purely subjective to value one over another. In England many people value (goodness only knows why) rich southern people's accents.

I am thoroughly ashamed to admit that ds2, who is supposed to be a northerer, has somehow picked up off cbeebies some hideous posh accent and insists on saying 'caaastle' instead of 'castle' etc. it is very embarrassing

Tinker · 22/07/2008 23:06

I used to say ate but am forcing myself to say et. This was another subject that my mum always used to correct people on ie when they said ate

SixSpotBurnet · 22/07/2008 23:11

Et et et

TsarChasm · 22/07/2008 23:13

Omg just revisiting my old thread and see that Tech has spoken. Et is is then!

And I so wish it didn't apply to the mini Green and Blacks chocolate bars I bought to give to the teachers, but I'm afraid that it does might

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MadBadandDangeroustoKnow · 22/07/2008 23:16

I mostly say et and now realise I am the true heir and successor to Nancy Mitford. Bliss.

LackaDAISYcal · 22/07/2008 23:18

I have been going to pose this very question myself and asked a friend who is an English teacher and says "et".

She thought it was a dialect thing too. I'm Scottish and it was always "ate", but my DS has recently started saying "et" (we now live in Leeds). I always correct him, but wondering whether or not I should.

TsarChasm · 22/07/2008 23:25

Omg the apotrophe dilemma probably has it's own pedant sub topic Daisy. Shh! You don't want to awaken the hardcore pedants at this time of night. It could get ugly if they're roused

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TsarChasm · 22/07/2008 23:27

Apostrophe apsotrophe!

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ExterminAitch · 22/07/2008 23:28

et. deffo.

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