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Words you can't use any more

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CoalTit · 23/10/2026 08:02

I know language evolves and all that. I accepted that "nonplussed" is now an unusable word because so many people take it to mean its opposite. I didn't really have much occasion to use it anyway. But now it turns out that "lame" and "literally' have suffered the same fate.

I've hurt my foot. I tried to explain to a friend on WhatsApp that I won't be going dancing this week, by writing: "I'm literally, technically lame". I got a long voice message in return expressing sympathy for my lack of confidence, saying how intimidating the dance scene can be.
So I tried, "No, lame, like a horse" and that seemed to work.
Then I messaged my upstairs neighbour to say I can't help her with her work in the light well today because I'm lame. I hurt my foot helping her so I thought she'd understand.
She replied asking me to get up the ladder so she can pass things down to me. I tried " I can't help you today; I can barely walk", and she seemed to understand.

I thought I could use "lame" to save myself typing out "I hurt my foot; it's badly swollen and I can barely walk". I thought I could use "literally" to make it clear, but no.

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ErrolTheDragon · 25/10/2026 08:50

PistachioTiramisu · 25/10/2026 08:47

They also used to have 'fags' at boys' public schools (don't know if they still do!). It was a term used for the younger boys carrying out small, menial tasks for the older boys and prefects, such as cleaning shoes, making toast, tidying rooms, etc.

Does anyone still use the term 'lame excuse'??

Probably, and I’d guess that’s where its newer derogatory meaning arose from. ‘You’re so lame….’

Coconutter24 · 25/10/2026 08:53

cloudsandclouds · 25/10/2026 08:27

I've just woken up, and you need more punctuation!

You also need to read properly, I’m not blaming the fact I’ve just woken up. I admitted I made a mistake and unlike the other poster I’m not trying to make excuses for it.
I don’t understand why you’ve highlighted woken up? Woke up is not incorrect.

VioletsTale · 25/10/2026 08:54

CaptainMyCaptain · 25/10/2026 08:43

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You can still say it and tell your children that faggot is a slur used in the US not the UK. Similarly 'fags' used to mean cigarettes in the UK. Treat them to some Mr Brain's Faggots readily available from Sainsbury's.

I’m from a different country and a lot of my English used to be American English. I was extremely nonplussed when chatting online to now DH and he said he was going for a fag. Grin

ErrolTheDragon · 25/10/2026 08:54

lottiegarbanzo · 25/10/2026 08:45

Oh don’t. This is an enjoyable thread, discovering words that are no longer understood . Let’s not turn it into ‘it’s political correctness gone maad’!

It’s the word in Fairytale of New York that is rarely now broadcast. To protect American sensibilities.

The video of Dire Straits performing Money for Nothing live pointedly hurling out alternatives to ‘faggot’ (eg ‘mother’ as in motherfucker which imo is much worse if you think about it) is quite funny.

YourFairCyanReader · 25/10/2026 08:56

dizzydizzydizzy · 25/10/2026 08:31

ahhh that is a common myth. Decimate does literally meant reduce by 10% but has never actually been used in that way:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-03/decimate-does-not-mean-to-kill-one-in-every-10/11459980?section=analysis&utm

In that article it says there is evidence that the word was used to mean killing 1:10 soldiers and also to mean a tax of 10%. It doesn't say the word was never used with its original meaning. I think the Latin decimare means 'to take a tenth'.

I'm not arguing with the common usage of 'decimate'; more lamenting that it would be useful to have a word that means 'reduce by 10%'.

At risk IMO is the word 'fraction' which people seem to use as if it means a small proportion, without using an adjective to indicate the size. For example saying 'I can remember only a fraction of the science I learned at school'!

Pinkissmart · 25/10/2026 08:57

Just say you’ve hurt your foot and can’t put weight on it.

ErrolTheDragon · 25/10/2026 08:58

CaptainMyCaptain · 25/10/2026 08:11

nonplussed
adjective
uk/ˌnɒnˈplʌst/ us/ˌnɑːnˈplʌst/
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surprised, confused, and not certain how to react:
I was completely nonplussed by his reply.

From the Cambridge Dictionary.

It doesn't mean 'not bothered'.

Even Merriam-Webster lists the correct definition first
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nonplussed

OneoftheWeddingPeople · 25/10/2026 09:00

I was too scared to even type that word the reaction it got!!! I genuinely meant meatballs

DancingNotDrowning · 25/10/2026 09:04

Nonplussed and disinterested are used incorrectly to mean unbothered and uninterested respectively at least twice a week on this site.

KnickerlessParsons · 25/10/2026 09:07

My manager in work has recently started telling us to “read the verbatim”. I am working to to telling him.

WhatToAskForNow · 25/10/2026 09:07

I've never heard of that word being used to mean meatballs😅Maybe it's just a U.K. thing?

Really pisses me off that they've removed it from Fairytale of New York though!

lottiegarbanzo · 25/10/2026 09:07

Disinterested has been misused for a long time by people thinking they’re being clever. The same people who use infer for imply and myself for me.

WhatToAskForNow · 25/10/2026 09:11

Coconutter24 · 25/10/2026 08:53

You also need to read properly, I’m not blaming the fact I’ve just woken up. I admitted I made a mistake and unlike the other poster I’m not trying to make excuses for it.
I don’t understand why you’ve highlighted woken up? Woke up is not incorrect.

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"I woke up" is fine. But it's "I have woken up"

Like...
I drove / I have driven...
I went / I have gone
I ate / I have eaten

MitohMit · 25/10/2026 09:12

First, that’s a lot of words to say « I’ve hurt my foot », second, I’m not surprised it led to confusion as yes, lame is mostly used for horses when calling out the vet!

Finally, I must be queer because I say, and write « nonplussed » quite often, and literally nobody has used it incorrectly in my presence.

I just don’t know why you’d put either of the qualifiers « literally » or « technically » in front of the word « lame » unless you’re expecting to be misunderstood. Out of interest, is « limping » no good (if you really didn’t want to say you’d hurt your foot)?

Luckyingame · 25/10/2026 09:15

You "can't" use? Fat and ugly was my first thought. However, I can still think it. 😂
As a PP said, is it about words not being commonly in use anymore? Because I say "quarrel" quite a lot.
Another thing - I was a bit puzzled when a bunch of young black ladies referred to each other as the N - bitch in conversation.

NormasArse · 25/10/2026 09:16

DoubleBusy2026 · 24/10/2026 23:38

Well the word queer used to always mean weird or very strange but I’m going to presume we can no longer use that anymore. It did have me a bit mystified the first time I heard it used to mean ‘gay’ but 🤷🏼‍♀️

Gay used to mean joyful/happy.

yellowpig · 25/10/2026 09:20

susiedaisy1912 · 25/10/2026 08:07

Yes see that’s what I thought it meant. I thought it meant not fussed, can’t be bothered, disinterested. 😳

Me too.

CurlewKate · 25/10/2026 09:26

I’m a pedant. I always use disinterested and uninterested and literally correctly. But I haven’t used lame except about a horse in my long life!

CurlewKate · 25/10/2026 09:27

NormasArse · 25/10/2026 09:16

Gay used to mean joyful/happy.

But sometimes I don’t mind telling people to shut up!!!

Gall10 · 25/10/2026 09:28

cloudsandclouds · 25/10/2026 07:24

What do you think nonplussed means?

I wish I knew what it means!

CurlewKate · 25/10/2026 09:29

Luckyingame · 25/10/2026 09:15

You "can't" use? Fat and ugly was my first thought. However, I can still think it. 😂
As a PP said, is it about words not being commonly in use anymore? Because I say "quarrel" quite a lot.
Another thing - I was a bit puzzled when a bunch of young black ladies referred to each other as the N - bitch in conversation.

And where did you come across these “young black ladies”?

Gall10 · 25/10/2026 09:29

I think we should stop using the word awful… meaning bad. Awful means full of awe i.e. full of wonder, wonderful. Or am i wrong?

ElBandito · 25/10/2026 09:34

I'm in my 50s and I would never use lame about a person, only an animal. If someone used lame about a person I would think it showed lazy disinterest in what their actual injury or disability was.

I do appreciate you are using it about yourself here, so I think you were angling for 'oh, poor you, what have you done replies' and didn't get them.

SwedishEdith · 25/10/2026 09:35

I think I've mostly heard or used nonplussed as "a bit / rather/ a little nonplussed" so it changing to mean unbothered doesn't quite work there.

Agree, I'd only use lame about myself if I was trying to be funny and only with people I knew well.

Cascadia · 25/10/2026 09:38

Gall10 · 25/10/2026 09:29

I think we should stop using the word awful… meaning bad. Awful means full of awe i.e. full of wonder, wonderful. Or am i wrong?

Also stop using nice to mean pleasant when it actually means foolish.