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Words you can't use any more

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CoalTit · 23/10/2026 08:02

I know language evolves and all that. I accepted that "nonplussed" is now an unusable word because so many people take it to mean its opposite. I didn't really have much occasion to use it anyway. But now it turns out that "lame" and "literally' have suffered the same fate.

I've hurt my foot. I tried to explain to a friend on WhatsApp that I won't be going dancing this week, by writing: "I'm literally, technically lame". I got a long voice message in return expressing sympathy for my lack of confidence, saying how intimidating the dance scene can be.
So I tried, "No, lame, like a horse" and that seemed to work.
Then I messaged my upstairs neighbour to say I can't help her with her work in the light well today because I'm lame. I hurt my foot helping her so I thought she'd understand.
She replied asking me to get up the ladder so she can pass things down to me. I tried " I can't help you today; I can barely walk", and she seemed to understand.

I thought I could use "lame" to save myself typing out "I hurt my foot; it's badly swollen and I can barely walk". I thought I could use "literally" to make it clear, but no.

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CaptainMyCaptain · 25/10/2026 12:02

BillieWiper · 25/10/2026 11:03

That word isn't used about human beings. Not by those who have temporary or permanent mobility issues, not by the world of medicine, traditional or alternative.

That's why they didn't understand?

Lame is used used in the Bible, in hymns and fairy tales .

CaptainMyCaptain · 25/10/2026 12:06

WhatToAskForNow · 25/10/2026 09:07

I've never heard of that word being used to mean meatballs😅Maybe it's just a U.K. thing?

Really pisses me off that they've removed it from Fairytale of New York though!

They're not actually meatballs, they are so much better, but at least 3 people have posted links to Mr Brain's Faggots. I used to get them from the butcher a long time ago. Delicious.

CaptainMyCaptain · 25/10/2026 12:08

DangerousThingsILove · 25/10/2026 09:53

No, it means to get on really well with someone. It uses the image of a fire catching hold quickly to show how a friendship can grow quickly too.

Yes.

Luckyingame · 25/10/2026 12:49

CurlewKate · 25/10/2026 09:29

And where did you come across these “young black ladies”?

Kilburn.

cloudsandclouds · 25/10/2026 13:06

Coconutter24 · 25/10/2026 08:53

You also need to read properly, I’m not blaming the fact I’ve just woken up. I admitted I made a mistake and unlike the other poster I’m not trying to make excuses for it.
I don’t understand why you’ve highlighted woken up? Woke up is not incorrect.

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"I have woke up" is incorrect, I'm afraid.

I don't think this is the board for you since your grammar shows me that you are not a pedant, at least not an English language pedant. 😅

socialbatteryisdead · 25/10/2026 13:25

Coconutter24 · 25/10/2026 07:14

It’s rebellious
*corner 😉

Edited

Phew

CurlewKate · 25/10/2026 14:14

I’m very old-and I remember when gay became
common parlance. I can’t remember a time-until recently- when queer was not a slur. Obviously it also meant strange, peculiar. But that was why it was a slur. And frankly, you have to be about 147 years old to try the “but gay means happy!” line!

Coconutter24 · 25/10/2026 14:49

cloudsandclouds · 25/10/2026 13:06

"I have woke up" is incorrect, I'm afraid.

I don't think this is the board for you since your grammar shows me that you are not a pedant, at least not an English language pedant. 😅

I didn’t say “I have woke up”

dizzydizzydizzy · 25/10/2026 14:54

YourFairCyanReader · 25/10/2026 08:56

In that article it says there is evidence that the word was used to mean killing 1:10 soldiers and also to mean a tax of 10%. It doesn't say the word was never used with its original meaning. I think the Latin decimare means 'to take a tenth'.

I'm not arguing with the common usage of 'decimate'; more lamenting that it would be useful to have a word that means 'reduce by 10%'.

At risk IMO is the word 'fraction' which people seem to use as if it means a small proportion, without using an adjective to indicate the size. For example saying 'I can remember only a fraction of the science I learned at school'!

Yes so “decimate” has meant “destroy” for 100s of years and the author of the article thinks that this is a reasonable evolution of the language.

I can’t personally think of any situations where I might regularly want to talk about 10% reduction….. but perhaps that is just my issue?

I think there is an interesting parallel between fraction and decimate. I think fraction has meant small proportion for many many years.

FallingfortheUnderdog · 25/10/2026 15:22

Coconutter24 · 25/10/2026 14:49

I didn’t say “I have woke up”

You said I've just woke up, the addition of just didn't make it gramatically correct

Or are you being pedantic about I have versus I've?

YourFairCyanReader · 25/10/2026 15:55

dizzydizzydizzy · 25/10/2026 14:54

Yes so “decimate” has meant “destroy” for 100s of years and the author of the article thinks that this is a reasonable evolution of the language.

I can’t personally think of any situations where I might regularly want to talk about 10% reduction….. but perhaps that is just my issue?

I think there is an interesting parallel between fraction and decimate. I think fraction has meant small proportion for many many years.

Yes, so we can no longer use the word with its original meaning, which was the subject of the thread.

We can halve, quarter, or quint something, and maybe there are other words for taking a proportion of something, but yes I would like to be able to use a verb to indicate a tenth! I'll also continue to say 'a small fraction' rather than just 'a fraction' because in my head a fraction could be the whole or more than.

OrdinaryGirl · 25/10/2026 16:07

Another little-known word I would never, ever use these days is ‘niggardly’ - even though it is NOTHING etymologically to do with the N word. I feel hot and sick just imagining being misheard 🙈

Words you can't use any more
Coconutter24 · 25/10/2026 16:20

FallingfortheUnderdog · 25/10/2026 15:22

You said I've just woke up, the addition of just didn't make it gramatically correct

Or are you being pedantic about I have versus I've?

I just woke up…. There, I corrected it. Hope that puts you at ease now!

TorroFerney · 25/10/2026 16:34

OneoftheWeddingPeople · 25/10/2026 08:31

I used a word for the meatballs we had as kids when describing food I’d had as a kid and both my teens screeched at me that I couldn’t say that.

Faggots? They had them on a menu of a restaurant we went to recently so the word can be both written and said in polite company.

TorroFerney · 25/10/2026 16:36

WhatToAskForNow · 25/10/2026 09:11

"I woke up" is fine. But it's "I have woken up"

Like...
I drove / I have driven...
I went / I have gone
I ate / I have eaten

It’s quite a Lancastrian way to say it - just woke up. My parents would have said it. It doesn’t sound right though.

TorroFerney · 25/10/2026 16:37

SabrinaBricklayer · 25/10/2026 10:00

Or if you’re American, I have went 😭

Or from Yorkshire “I aren’t doing that”.

TorroFerney · 25/10/2026 16:39

CaptainMyCaptain · 25/10/2026 12:02

Lame is used used in the Bible, in hymns and fairy tales .

Indeed. Beggars were always lame I think, often with a grubby bandaged foot.

maudelovesharold · 25/10/2026 17:14

VioletsTale · 25/10/2026 07:49

Most people use it as not bothered, unimpressed, unfazed.

Do they? Really? I’ve never come across it being used like that. No-one I know would ever use it other than to mean perplexed.

maudelovesharold · 25/10/2026 17:14

Because that’s what it means.

maudelovesharold · 25/10/2026 17:26

Why are the pedants all turning on each other, by the way, even to the extent of questioning pedant credentials? 😉

PaperPanama · 25/10/2026 17:34

CurlewKate · 25/10/2026 14:14

I’m very old-and I remember when gay became
common parlance. I can’t remember a time-until recently- when queer was not a slur. Obviously it also meant strange, peculiar. But that was why it was a slur. And frankly, you have to be about 147 years old to try the “but gay means happy!” line!

Not quite. I have a friend named Gay. And that’s what she was called until the mid90s, when we lost touch. We reconnected a few years ago, and she is now Fay. She said that she was made to feel so uncomfortable about her name that she added a similar-sounding name once her parents had passed away. She kept Gay as a middle name. She is in her 60s.

ShowOfHands · 25/10/2026 17:41

maudelovesharold · 25/10/2026 17:14

Do they? Really? I’ve never come across it being used like that. No-one I know would ever use it other than to mean perplexed.

I've just searched and apart from pedants discussing its misuse, much of usage in the wilds of MN is incorrect.

I advance searched "ambivalent" as well and nobody is using it correctly.

maudelovesharold · 25/10/2026 17:55

PaperPanama · 25/10/2026 17:34

Not quite. I have a friend named Gay. And that’s what she was called until the mid90s, when we lost touch. We reconnected a few years ago, and she is now Fay. She said that she was made to feel so uncomfortable about her name that she added a similar-sounding name once her parents had passed away. She kept Gay as a middle name. She is in her 60s.

That’s a real shame. So she’s now Fay Gay?
It might have been better to add a couple of letters - Gayle or Gaynor, maybe?

Hellohelga · 25/10/2026 18:19

PigsawJuzzle · 25/10/2026 08:08

So in American English, nonplussed means fully comprehending the situation?

"no, I get it, I'm totally nonplussed! This makes sense!"

I think Americans use it to mean indifferent, not bothered, while it originally meant confused, as you rightly said. So not opposites exactly but very different.
So of OP said I can’t go dancing because I’m lame an American might say oh ok I’m non plussed meaning it’s ok I don’t mind.

Hellohelga · 25/10/2026 18:20

Have we done I could care less yet. Infuriating the American way round.